Ughh .. My post over at /r/Apple has been silently removed and censored. (Goodbye reddit with your censored discussions and shills, censored discussion is no discussion at all)
Like all of you, I do not like the screen quality of the XS and do not agree with the stellar displaymate review.
1) The white point color temperature off is NOT 6500k. I have heard others that it looks this yellow because that it how a calibrated display is supposed to look.
(~6500k is supposed to be paper white, not a shade of beige)
As a result I find all colors significantly off across the board.
I find reds to be orange-ish and greens to be harsh neons.
REFERENCE: https://i.postimg.cc/ZTtrkrZT/Image-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/fbgFNbb1/226_E617_D-_A701-43_A2-_AC48-_F9_EB1_FDD546_F.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Gp8kN3TM/output.png
2) The viewing angles are horrendously bad.
I can have BaconReader appear pink at the top, whiteish in the middle, and light yellow at the bottom at a very shallow ~10 degree angle.
This is not inherit to OLED technology since I both had Galaxy phones in the past and currently have an LG OLED TV. White is the most sensitive color to viewing angles on OLED, but it usually isn't this BAD.
3) Worst of all, if that wasn't enough
If not using he screen at full brightness, highlight detail is lost.
The brightness toggle in control center clips white point while leaving everything the shadows and mids the same. This completely crushes highlight detail.
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The rest of the phone is great, but this is a serious downgrade.
I find this screen worse than a CHEAP LCD, let alone a good LCD or OLED.
This gives OLED tech and Apple a bad name.
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Can anyone with the non yellow-tint phones take a picture of the above image.
Did ya have an x or one to compare to?
unfortunately not.
I did view this image on (5) iPhone XS and (1) iPhone XS Max.
All of them have yellow tint and failed color reproduction on this image miserably.
In additional, I also went to a few T-mobile retail stores and their display models also had yellow tint, tru-tone turned off.
I will either have to visit an Apple store, or maybe someone on here can view the reference image on a non-defective screen.
Viewing angle issue can‘t be a software problem.
That’s OLED. Back when people were complaining about the LCD display tints and demanding OLED displays to solve the problem I told them OLED was going to create more issues that way than it solved because there’s an even higher variance among different samples of OLED displays than there is among the very refined LCD displays Apple was using in the 7’s and 8’s.
I found that out the hard way going to Android phones.
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Yes. That’s a trait of all OLED phone displays I’ve seen so far. Some display it more severely than others.
Question:
Looking at my Max screen head on produces a slight yellow tone with True Tone off. I hate the yellow tone and don’t use True Tone.
However, if I tilt it up or down slightly, I get a blue shift (which I like) but as I tilt the top (speaker) away from me, I see the slight yellow in the keyboard area and when on white backgrounds - is this normal?
I also have the OLED LG TV and there are no tone changes and no yellow spots but I think this is due to the fact that phones have coated glass on the front and TV’s don’t.
It's just different, not broken. The complainer is probably using a monitor or older Apple device with a lot more blue in it.
Break your car's windshield and get the non-OEM replacement glass that your insurance will cover, and you'll see things a whole new way for about a week ... then after that, it will seem normal, or normal enough.
I'm getting to the age where it's usually my eyes, not the world, that is the problem.
2) The viewing angles are horrendously bad.
I can have BaconReader appear pink at the top, whiteish in the middle, and light yellow at the bottom at a very shallow ~10 degree angle.
Are all XS display are bad or is there a small chance to get a good display when ordering today at the online store.
I haven‘t seen a good XS Max display yet.
The Apple Store told me it‘s better to wait until December to place a new order.
The tint shift when off-axis is normal for the OLED iPhones (and possibly other OLED phones). I've noticed it and these things normally do my head in, but it's a characteristic of the screen technology, so it won't bother me. Suggest you either deal with it, or return the phone. It shouldn't be new news as the world stopped spinning last year when it was noticed on the X.
Get an XR
The iPhone X is OLED. When comparing XS to X, you can see the tint only on the XS. This is not an OLED vs LCD issue. This is a XS issue plain and simple. Not enough of an issue to completely return the phone, however it does warrant further inspection from an Apple rep. There is also talk about the panels coming from 2 different manufacturers. I’ve set an appointment for Monday at Apple to see if they have more insight to this. As of now, I still have my X that I need to go trade in on Monday so it will be the perfect opportunity to show the significant difference to Apple regarding this yellowish tint. I love the XS Max, especially due to its screen size, however it’s annoying to know that I spent $1500 on a phone whose display quality looks worse then my previous phone that is also an OLED.
Well that is very encouraging. The replacement exchange I got at the Apple store yesterday is also a serial number DN. I haven’t even bothered to open it and check the screen out yet as I’ve wasted enough time this weekend dealing with Apple related issues.
Of course the imbeciles working at the Apple store tried to tell me that the piss yellow phone I posted pictures of here looked “perfect” to have them. I actually a joint venture customer which usually affords me somewhat better service. The business team was busy when I went into the store and I didn’t want to wait so I just dealt with a regular sales rep. I love the whole “OK I guess will exchange it if that’s what you really want”. Of course you’ll exchange it… I’m within the 14 day window and it’s a no questions asked thing, thanks anyway. Makes me laugh. When my business contact called me afterword I let her know how laughable the service was. She didn’t disagree.
I do have a picture of an X and an Xs side by side. Both devices are registered to me.Without some images we can only imagine. . . . . .
The yellow is horrible but what’s worse is what it’s doing to the contrast. Look at the E30 white bookmark vs the gray background.View attachment 790813
I do have a picture of an X and an Xs side by side. Both devices are registered to me.
The Xs has a yellower tint. The X is bluish white. Same settings on both.
I find the yellow tint to be undesirable, but Apple believes the yellow tint is healthier for our vision..hence tru-tone?
Was yours an XS or XS Max?Please let me know your findings on the new unit.
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I do have a picture of an X and an Xs side by side. Both devices are registered to me.
The Xs has a yellower tint. The X is bluish white. Same settings on both.
I find the yellow tint to be undesirable, but Apple believes the yellow tint is healthier for our vision..hence tru-tone?
The yellow is horrible but what’s worse is what it’s doing to the contrast. Look at the E30 white bookmark vs the gray background.
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Was yours an XS or XS Max?
The yellow is horrible but what’s worse is what it’s doing to the contrast. Look at the E30 white bookmark vs the gray background.
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Was yours an XS or XS Max?
There is hope!
I have an XS with the pink/yellow tint and dull screen compared to my X, I ordered another (still in 14 day return) and just received it yesterday. I kept the first for comparison, the screen on the new XS is perfect! I guess I lucked out. It is as good (white/brightness) as my X or better, and way better than the original XS. Color uniform just perfect. Moral of this story is there are good screens out there. Reading these message I was begging to think it was a lost case but I was pleasantly surprised. Now I just have to transfer my apple care from the phone I am mailing back today to my new XS. This was a Space Grey 256 gb XS first 2 numbers in serial are DN.
Something else I just noticed is that cell signal is a full bar better in my home in exact locations.
I guess thats a plus.
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Auto brightness is a nice feature. Shouldn’t have to remove features to like the it.I've decided to just keep my XS and not play the return/exchange game in search for a panel that I couldn't even find in multiple apple stores with their demo units. I just hope that one day apple will add a white point calibration tool in iOS.
I've just disabled auto-brightness and running the iphone at near 100% most of the time for the brightest white to hide the yellow for now.
Just when I thought I should not return it.
How's the color shift on your unit? Does it go white > pink > blue or just white > blue?
Interesting. It kind of doesn’t make sense because OLED should be able to reproduce true blacks. Maybe it’s a bug in how iOS is implementing the DND screen? What does it look like if you view a completely black wallpaper or picture?
Well that is very encouraging. The replacement exchange I got at the Apple store yesterday is also a serial number DN. I haven’t even bothered to open it and check the screen out yet as I’ve wasted enough time this weekend dealing with Apple related issues.
Of course the imbeciles working at the Apple store tried to tell me that the piss yellow phone I posted pictures of here looked “perfect” to have them. I actually a joint venture customer which usually affords me somewhat better service. The business team was busy when I went into the store and I didn’t want to wait so I just dealt with a regular sales rep. I love the whole “OK I guess will exchange it if that’s what you really want”. Of course you’ll exchange it… I’m within the 14 day window and it’s a no questions asked thing, thanks anyway. Makes me laugh. When my business contact called me afterword I let her know how laughable the service was. She didn’t disagree.
But if you search the internet you will see that the X had this issue last year too, to the point Apple issued a statement to say it was normal. It may not have affected ALL X’s, the same as it doesn’t affect ALL XS Max’s.
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I do have a picture of an X and an Xs side by side. Both devices are registered to me.
The Xs has a yellower tint. The X is bluish white. Same settings on both.
I find the yellow tint to be undesirable, but Apple believes the yellow tint is healthier for our vision..hence tru-tone?