HTC 10

[jamezr]

GSMArena rates the HTC battery as just average...
That's what I heard over at XDA from people that have the phone ready as well.
They rate the endurance rating at 66h just for comparison the S7 gets a 80 rating

To sum it up, the HTC 10 performed rather average in all tests. For starters, the HTC 10 scored a calling time of 20:42, just two minutes below the One M9. Video and browsing tests offered a rather significant improvement up from the One M9 at 8:42h for video and 9:08h of browsing, whereas the One M9 scored less with 7:31h of browsing and 8:21h of video playback

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10-review-1434p3.php

 

[Surf Donkey]

GSMArena rates the HTC battery as just average...
That's what I heard over at XDA from people that have the phone ready as well.
They rate the endurance rating at 66h just for comparison the S7 gets a 80 rating


http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10-review-1434p3.php

Keep in mind that is the Exynos flavor on the S7. Not really a good comparison to the HTC 10 with SD 820. And who knows, maybe they got a poorly binned phone?

Also, you will find people on XDA with over 5+ SOT hours of battery life. But waaaay too early for a true battery life review from average users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66643633&postcount=13

And other reviews showing it holds up there with the S7 (when comparing SD), some in fact beating it:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-10-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S7_id4195/page/4

s. And while the HTC 10 fared a bit better in our custom battery life test, it's fair to say that it's in the same league with the Galaxy S7.

But battery reviews in general are pretty silly given how they vary. The phone will get through a day like all the other flagships. Some days more, some days less.

The overall consensus is that it is on par with S7.

 

[jamezr]

Keep in mind that is the Exynos flavor on the S7. Not really a good comparison to the HTC 10 with SD 820. And who knows, maybe they got a poorly binned phone?

Also, you will find people on XDA with over 5+ SOT hours of battery life. But waaaay to early for a true battery life review from average users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66643633&postcount=13

And other reviews showing it holds up there with the S7 (when comparing SD):
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-10-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S7_id4195/page/4



But battery reviews in general are pretty silly given how they vary. The phone will get through a day like all the other flagships. Some days more, some days less.

The overall consensus is that it is on par with S7.

I would trust GSM arena and their reviews than phone arena tbh. They have a proven track record.
Most reviews do not show it on par with the S7
Battery...

While these are somewhat significant increases in stamina, the HTC 10's score is dead center between its direct competitors like the Galaxy S7 and LG G5. The LG G5 yields a battery score of 60h, while the HTC 10 scored 66h overall, with the Galaxy S7 (Exynos) scoring a much better 80h score overall.

Although the HTC 10 battery life was not bad at all, it still was a potential opportunity for the phone to improve as its competitors scored better in these tests.

Camera

When compared, these darker areas in photos of the Galaxy S7 edge appear sharper and more in-focus. The only photo of the HTC 10 where colors were less than desirable is the one with the fountain in the foreground. The colors went too cool and gave the scene a pink and pale haze.

Don't get us wrong, the HTC 10's camera met and exceeded our expectations. We are simply putting it to a standard that it set for itself when HTC was teasing its camera. DxOMark gave both the HTC 10 and Samsung Galaxy S7 edge the same score of 88 though we're inclined to disagree as from our experience the S7/S7 edge duo has the upper hand.

Texture details on the HTC 10 could certainly be better. The Galaxy S7 edge's dual pixel, in which every pixel can be used for focusing, has a competitive advantage in focusing speed as well.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10-review-1434p7.php

 

[Surf Donkey]

Again, you are comparing two different phones (Exynos vs Snapdragon). I know you don't like it, but I can cherry pick just as many reviews saying it is the same. And again, this is silly for battery life. What was that again about bias?

Is Anandtech credible enough for you?

Whatever the case, overall battery life between the Galaxy S7 and HTC 10 are going to be similar, although how similar is going to be workload dependent and the bin of the SoC you end up getting. If your workload is almost purely display-bound, the Galaxy S7 seems to come out on top. If your usage is more mixed and primarily stresses the CPU like our 2016 web browsing test, the HTC 10 will edge out the Galaxy S7 and iPhone 6s by a nose. If you intend on running power viruses on your phone, it's likely that the bin of your SoC will matter more than anything else but runtime on both devices will be similar.

 

[MRU]

The video reviewers so far - Pocketnow, Mobiletech, Android Authority, Techno buffalo and MKBHD etc. put battery life on par with the S7 (Snapdragon 820) with 4-5 hours SOT normal.

They are basing it on actual use and not arbitrary tests.

https://youtu.be/5p92dqyFQOA

https://youtu.be/2TzJT3Lzibs

https://youtu.be/MDAexDvYwD8


A similar experience across them all can't be just coincidence.

 

[jamezr]

Pocketnow, Android Aithority, Techno buffalo and MKBHD all put battery life on par with the S7 (Snapdragon 820) with 4-5 hours SOT normal.

Android Authority reviewer that used the phone said:

Josh found that the HTC 10 battery offers 3 to 4 hours of screen on time on average but what do the numbers say? And how does HTC’s flagship stack up to the flagships of Google, Samsung and LG? Let’s find out in this HTC 10 battery life review.

But it scored higher the tests.

 

[MRU]

Android Authority reviewer that used the phone said:

But it scored higher the tests.

Josh says "in our testing battery life over 13 hour days the phone has been able to stretch out to 4 and a half hours screen on time"

6:47 in the video

 

[jamezr]

Again, you are comparing two different phones (Exynos vs Snapdragon). I know you don't like it, but I can cherry pick just as many reviews saying it is the same. And again, this is silly for battery life. What was that again about bias?

Is Anandtech credible enough for you?

Oh I do like the phone. I might get one... As I have said in other posts.....the battery life reports have been conflicting at best. Having a different processor does not make them different phones. They compare evaluate and rate phones with different processors all the time on all review sites. Same goes for camera tests. They compare evaluate and rate smartphone cameras as well even though they have different lenses apertures

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Josh says "in our testing battery life over 13 hour days the phone has been able to stretch out to 4 and a half hours screen on time"

6:47 in the video

that's correct and I said that as well. So when he actually used the phone he got 3 to 4 hours SOT but it tested higher.

 

[gotluck]

looking pretty good IMO!

thats plenty of SOT for me.

I wonder how standby time is? I havent used a real modern android phone lately, but the 6S crushes my GS4 on 6.0.1 cm WRT standby time, but I know that isnt a fair test.

'over 13 hour days w/ 4.5 hr SOT' in MRU's quote looks pretty darn good

 

[Surf Donkey]

Speaking of camera tests, here are the results of a blind test on the latest cameras. Pretty interesting. LG5 coming out on top. Galaxy and iPhone are almost dead even:
http://www.androidauthority.com/camera-shootout-results-690429/

And poor HTC 10.... was judged with pre-release software. They admit in the comments the test was done 2 weeks prior the software updates that fixed everything.

 

[MRU]

looking pretty good IMO!

thats plenty of SOT for me.

I wonder how standby time is? I havent used a real modern android phone lately, but the 6S crushes my GS4 on 6.0.1 cm WRT standby time, but I know that isnt a fair test.

Doze has really helped all Android devices running Marshmallow in regards to standby time. They are nearly as good as the iPhone in that regard now.

 

[jamezr]

Speaking of camera tests, here are the results of a blind test on the latest cameras. Pretty interesting. LG5 coming out on top. Galaxy and iPhone are almost dead even:
http://www.androidauthority.com/camera-shootout-results-690429/

And poor HTC 10.... was judged with pre-release software. They admit in the comments the test was done 2 weeks prior the software updates that fixed everything.

Wow deja vu....you would think they would learn by now!
The HTC 10 looks to be a nice phone. I checked it out at a VZW store over the weekend. It was a beautiful phone and feels great in the hand. I just hope it performs as well as it looks.

 

[MRU]

And poor HTC 10.... was judged with pre-release software. They admit in the comments the test was done 2 weeks prior the software updates that fixed everything.

Yep and with that buggy software it still didn't stop DxO giving it top score along with S7 !!!

(We know my opinion on DxO and its credibility)

 

[Surf Donkey]

Yep and with that buggy software it still didn't stop DxO giving it top score along with S7 !!!

(We know my opinion on DxO and its credibility)

Yeah, that says ALLLLLL we need to know about DxO. I am quite certain they are paid for positive reviews now.
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Wow deja vu....you would think they would learn by now!
The HTC 10 looks to be a nice phone. I checked it out at a VZW store over the weekend. It was a beautiful phone and feels great in the hand. I just hope it performs as well as it looks.

Yeah well to be fair dumb on HTC to push out the phone to reviewers with glaring issues in the camera software. Someone must consider that these initial reviews stay on the internet and rarely get corrected for software updates. But I am in the software development world myself, so I know about deadlines vs. reality. Sometimes they just don't give you the choice and you hunker down for the customer reactions.

One thing is certain, the OIS in the HTC 10 looks like a weak point. And that will impact not only video but low light pictures. And that won't likely change.

 

[epicrayban]

Yeah well to be fair dumb on HTC to push out the phone to reviewers with glaring issues in the camera software. Someone must consider that these initial reviews stay on the internet and rarely get corrected for software updates.

This is what I was referring to about HTC's flagship releases always requiring a software update to get the camera right. I feel like they make this mistake every year as far back as the M7. Every HTC flagship release seems to always come with, "but did you get the camera update first before passing judgment?"

You took that as some tirade against first wave software patches; not the case.

 

[Surf Donkey]

This is what I was referring to about HTC's flagship releases always requiring a software update to get the camera right. I feel like they make this mistake every year as far back as the M7. Every HTC flagship release seems to always come with, "but did you get the camera update first before passing judgment?"

You took that as some tirade against first wave software patches; not the case.

Fair enough, my apologies if I misread. Sometimes companies just can't figure out how to get one hand to talk to the other. If this is historic, then HTC has those issues.

I am guessing the thought was to get the device to reviewers early, get people hyped on reviews so more preorder. But of course this misfires when there are issues. The only good thing is you get a chance to find major issues before release day with public beta testers. But a terrible camera is obviously not in that category. It was likely just not done.

Given that, why in the world wouldn't they just not ship to reviewers? Make them wait with everyone else. Let the specs sell the phone. All I can think is the quarterly pressure for income, and someone took the gamble. Product managers and sales likes to do that. Makes the development teams cringe.

 

[Cnasty]

I am disappointed they got away from the front facing speakers as that was a big differentiator for HTC. I know why they did it and it helped in the design change for the front of the phone but those speakers were fantastic from a phone and this change with the speakers at the top and bottom and split will be interesting to see in a real life scenario how they perform versus the speakers in the past.

 

[MRU]

Looks like my order won't ship now till beginning of next week ... Thanks HTC!!

What am I going to do in the interim, haven't a stitch to wear phone wise

 

[jamezr]

Looks like a lot of the pre order folks are getting theirs today. Some of the Verizon pre orders are getting theirs today as well and it should be available in the VZW stores today. But personally......VZW brands the heck out of it....

 

[AppleRobert]

No VZW or TMO for me, just unbranded from HTC sometime in the future.

Regarding battery life, QHD and HTC's first venture for that I believe so what really could one have hoped for.

 

[Surf Donkey]

There is a Verizon unboxing on Youtube (all I could find so far) shows verizon branding on the back. The commentary in this is pretty funny.

Reddit user reporting the following "exclusives" installed:

There's actually quite a bit of bloat.

Vz navigator

Verizon support

My Verizon

Caller id

Slacker

nfl

Audible

Kindle

Amazon underground

eBay

IMDb

Verizon cloud

Message +

Amazon music

Mail

Oh, and Boost+ is missing but you can download it from the play store if youre so inclined.

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Looks like my order won't ship now till beginning of next week ... Thanks HTC!!

What am I going to do in the interim, haven't a stitch to wear phone wise

Yeah, but you'll get those nice headphones.... worth a couple days wait!

 

[PJM83]

Quick impressions after using the 10 for a day. Feels much better in hand than my S7 edge. The screen looks good I don't feel like it's and downgrade from the sammy. Speaker quality is great. The hi-res headphones are a little bass heavy for my taste but sound good, a definite upgrade from regular in the box headphones. Battery life will easily last me through the day.

 

[MRU]

Quick impressions after using the 10 for a day. Feels much better in hand than my S7 edge. The screen looks good I don't feel like it's and downgrade from the sammy. Speaker quality is great. The hi-res headphones are a little bass heavy for my taste but sound good, a definite upgrade from regular in the box headphones. Battery life will easily last me through the day.

Good stuff. What colour device did you get ?

Have you ran the audio optimiser which modulates audio for each ear based on tones, that could also improve audio further ...

 

[PJM83]

What colour device did you get ?

Carbon grey. Need the black face.

 

[MRU]

Carbon grey. Need the black face.

Cool. I ordered the White/silver myself