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Well, you can always try out phones in stores or check out reviews before you even purchase a phone. So even though I don't have a HTC One X I do know the device.With your way of thinking that there isn't something just as good and you are not trying to try nothing else, how would you know?
AirPlay, iCloud and iMessage, well the One X can do all of that. Media Link HD, cloud storage take your pick(25GB free drop box), imessage, pick from literally hundreds of messaging apps on the Android Market.
I have used both and there is nothing the One X cannot do with ICS that the Iphone can.
Best OS for who? I love IOS too. But ICS is just as good and better in some respects. Now will I switch back to IOS when the iphone 5 comes out, maybe. If it is better than the One X yes. The difference between the two IOS and ICS is very little. Stability both are stable, easy to use and share most if not all the same functions. By going to ICS you are giving up nothing in comparison. Literally.
I love Apple and have all their products. Use a 4S for work since my business is ran on Apple literally. No one likes Apple more than me. But I know a good device when I see it. I will not buy a Apple product just because it says 'Apple'. The reason I buy their products in the first place is the quality of the product and the OS. The same reason I bought the One X. And the One X is a good device. Probably the best smartphone regardless of OS or price on the market right now.
I don't blindly buy a product because of a brand, I buy it because it's the best. And in this case the 4S is not the best in my opinion. I don't blindly buy any brand if I feel it is not the best in my opinion. Buy what you want and that you feel is the best device for you, not what the brand says on the box.
If the OS's are on equal footing, in my opinion, what is left? Yes the hardware. Open your mind to other alternatives, you will thank yourself that you did. Who doesn't like choice right?
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Who says people are switching ecosystems? ICS integrates as smoothly as my 4S with all my Apple hardware. It syncs with my Macbook as easily as my 4S.
http://www.sync-mac.com/android-sync.html?gclid=CNv5i82Y868CFYSR7QodP0vFVw
Need a remote for your Apple products. There is a app for that. Also controls Apple TV.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hyperfine.hftunes.release&hl=en
What makes you think Android doesn't have the same apps. I put the same exact apps on my One X as I had on my 4S. Cloud storage, 25GB free drop box. Backups are better on my One X than my 4S. Faster over the Air backups.
Open your eyes. My One X can do all that you mentioned and more. Open your blinders.
About the software, I don't think there is anything the HOX can't that the iPhone can. The difference is the ease of use. There is no alternative to iMessage or AirPlay that works just as easily. There is no mail app that works as good as the one iOS has.
Ofcourse there are other good alternatives out there and I you haven't been used to iOS I'm sure people will like the HOX a lot. It's just that almost all Android alternatives for iOS features are worse than the original.
I have no doubt the HOX is a great device, but the software always falls shorts on the most important things. Having said that, I do reckon that it's also better at some points (like the integrated Google navigation).
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The thing that makes the notifications great on iOS is that a user always gets to see them before they end up in the 'slide down menu'. It's just impossible to miss a notifcation unless you've explicitely turned them off. That's also the main reason there is no icon in the status bar, you already know if there are notifications because you've seen them.
E-mail does feel a bit like menu diving but it excells when it comes to Exchange-support or multiple accounts. It handles everything flawlessly, all folders/filters/labels are shown. Even Windows Phone 7 has worse Exchange-support! Also, the interface for reading and answering mails is a pleasure to use. The only downside is the inability to include attachments from within the app itself.
I have to disagree. My battery is just as good as my 4S. The camera is better in my opinion. Signal is better as well. LTE is fast. Once you use it you don't really want anything else.
I did a little test myself. I went to bed and put both on my night stand in stand by mode. Over the coarse of 8hrs, the One X had a battery percentage of 95%, the iphone 4S 96%. So in my experience they are both on equal footing. and the tests back this up.
Check out the battery life usage tests here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/3
Camera does as well:
The One X has some of the best (if not the best) low light performance I have seen from a smartphone, no doubt in thanks to that fast F/2.0 aperture and noise reduction they’re doing on their ISP. HTC’s optics have very controlled/minimal distortion and remain nice and sharp across the field, which is no small feat.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5
Every one has their own opinion, but the tests contradict what you are claiming. Maybe you got a lemon?
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"Well, you can always try out phones in stores or check out reviews before you even purchase a phone. So even though I don't have a HTC One X I do know the device.
About the software, I don't think there is anything the HOX can't that the iPhone can. The difference is the ease of use. There is no alternative to iMessage or AirPlay that works just as easily. There is no mail app that works as good as the one iOS has."
Really? The answer to that is no. No you don't know the device at all. It took me about five days to realize all the One X can do. So how could you for a few mins in a store or even hours know so much in so little time? You simply cant. I already told you the HTC One X can do everything the 4S can and more. I own both devices. You don't. I already told you all the HTC One X can do. You simply ignored it. You are officially brainwashed.
You cannot browse the web on the 4S using Airplay. You can on the Media Link HD. Now it is just a device to mimic what is on your phone. And the Apple TV does more, rent movies etc. But you can do all of that on your device and send it to the TV.
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/accessories/htc-media-link-hd/
ICS I would say is just as easy or easier than iOS. Faster access to your applications, kill apps is easier, etc. Stop being a mindless sheep. Wow Apple has you brain washed. I love Apple's products, my business is ran on Apple, I have every product they make. Doesn't mean I will not try something else if it's better.
I might switch to the iphone 5 if it is better. But for now the HTC One X is the best there is right now in my opinion.
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Welcome to Macrumors! Sorry it did not work out for you.
By the way, you had a 4S up until Monday but never came here before you posted this? You must have had another account here I gather.
The problem I think is that your comparing the A9 based Tegra 3 to the iphone 4S. And yes the Tegra 3 is faster in every respect to the 4S.
The american version of the One X has the Snapdragon S4. A A15 based SOC.
Single threaded and multi threaded.I turned both pictures side by side to fit them both.
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If you look back on my posts, you will see I always replied to someone making definitive statements. If someone makes a definitive statement (Faster/Slower/worse graphics..etc), which the numbers do not support, it is completely fair to respond with the relevant numbers.
For example, cardinalryan said the iPhone 4S vs the HTC One X is like the Atari vs the PS3. It would be completely fair for me to post screenshots I just took from my iPhone 4S, and ask him to post something that looks better on his HTC One X:
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It would also be fair if I posted some screenshots from the iPhone 4 as well (released mid 2010), and asked him to post something that looks better:
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Afterall, this is the iPhone forum
Hardware wise the HTC One X has the fastest most advanced processor ever seen on a phone. The Snapdragon S4. CPU wise it is better than anything else out there as it is based on the next generation A15 Arm core.
GPU wise Qualcomm rushed to market the S4 and put a Adreno 225 in the S4. The 4S has a better GPU. No doubt about it.
CPU is a different story. The gap is wide between the two. The A5X CPU wise is inferior to the S4. GPU wise will remain top dog.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks
Hi!
I'm not one to usually post on forums and so tend to just browse around and read reviews etc. I didn't need an account until today and felt I wanted to reply to this thread
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I would just like to say that the long and short of it is this:
I am not an iPhone basher...far from it...I have owned every iPhone since day one of iPhone 1 in 2007. I have loved using my iPhones and have great respect for Apple.
That said, the HTC One X and, in my opinion, RAZR Maxx are both better devices than the iPhone 4s. Android is totally different than it was two years ago, this OS has grown up and ICS is smooth as butter and the ecosystem is fantastic.
Am I saying that iPhone is not a great option? Of course not...it's a great device, but it is inferior to the other two I mentioned. To me, this should not even be debatable. Sure, it's an individual opinion, so if you like smaller screens, slower speeds and zero customization, then I guess the iPhone would be better.
However, for the rest of the people that like beautiful larger screens that still fit in the hand and function with one hand, data speeds that are insanely fast and full customization, then the choice to turn away from the iPhone is easy.
I am not an iPhone basher...far from it...I have owned every iPhone since day one of iPhone 1 in 2007. I have loved using my iPhones and have great respect for Apple.
That said, the HTC One X and, in my opinion, RAZR Maxx are both better devices than the iPhone 4s. Android is totally different than it was two years ago, this OS has grown up and ICS is smooth as butter and the ecosystem is fantastic.
Am I saying that iPhone is not a great option? Of course not...it's a great device, but it is inferior to the other two I mentioned. To me, this should not even be debatable. Sure, it's an individual opinion, so if you like smaller screens, slower speeds and zero customization, then I guess the iPhone would be better.
However, for the rest of the people that like beautiful larger screens that still fit in the hand and function with one hand, data speeds that are insanely fast and full customization, then the choice to turn away from the iPhone is easy.
Bit of an ignorant post in all honesty.
A lot of users have two phones (business/personal etc..), for me personally I always have an iPhone and something else. Currently it's a one X, by the end of the year it will probably be exchanged / traded for something else.
There are many fantastic inovations outside of iOS and whilst no OS is perfect, without experiencing the highs and lows of other OS's you really are not a position to describe one or the other as best, because your opinion will utterly be one sided.
Don't hate on people who choose to 'think differently'. There was a time doing so was cool at Apple.
Thanks for the relevant links iamthedudeman, I like it when people back up their statements
My PC experience tells me that quad core is only really taken advantage of in games, video editing and photo editing...but the iPhone has all the best apps in those categories, so I'm a bit confused on what advantages this CPU brings you.
Honest question, how does the CPU power translate to real world situations? I've posted pictures of apps on the iPhone 4S (and even the iPhone 4) that have better graphics (GPU) than any app on the HTC One X. Can someone show me an app that takes advantage of the extra CPU power, that wouldn't be possible on the iPhone 4S?
I actually prefer the form factor of the One S. It's easier to operate with one hand. I think the One X is a touch too big for people with average to small hands.
The problem of course is that the One S has an inferior screen and runs on T-Mobile and not VZW or AT&T.
The iPhone needs to bring something new and improved to the table on the next update with respect to the screen especially. You only need to spend a minute with the One X to see how superior that screen is compared to the 4/4S.
I really don't think that dissing the 3G/HSPA+ speeds of the iPhone is a valid argument seeing that it's all but a given that LTE is coming to the iPhone this fall.
I think it all really comes down to one thing. Are you willing to wait to see what Apple has up their sleeve this fall. If not, then get the One X, S3, or some other LTE device that will be available soon.
I do think that HTC will benefit from consumers who are anxious to upgrade from their iPhone 4's and who don't want to wait until the fall. The One X is the first device that I've handled since getting the 3G iPhone that has tempted me to jump ship. However, I'm waiting to see what Apple has in store before upgrading my smartphone.
The problem of course is that the One S has an inferior screen and runs on T-Mobile and not VZW or AT&T.
The iPhone needs to bring something new and improved to the table on the next update with respect to the screen especially. You only need to spend a minute with the One X to see how superior that screen is compared to the 4/4S.
I really don't think that dissing the 3G/HSPA+ speeds of the iPhone is a valid argument seeing that it's all but a given that LTE is coming to the iPhone this fall.
I think it all really comes down to one thing. Are you willing to wait to see what Apple has up their sleeve this fall. If not, then get the One X, S3, or some other LTE device that will be available soon.
I do think that HTC will benefit from consumers who are anxious to upgrade from their iPhone 4's and who don't want to wait until the fall. The One X is the first device that I've handled since getting the 3G iPhone that has tempted me to jump ship. However, I'm waiting to see what Apple has in store before upgrading my smartphone.
I think, that all in all, this is a very fair post. I think we can all agree that Apple has lagged behind and is really dragging its feet on the iPhone. It just seems they are asleep at the wheel.
I'd only take it that far if they release an iPhone this fall that looks pretty much like the 4S but has LTE. You can't really knock them until you see what they have to offer next.
Yes, the 4S leaves a lot to be desired. Especially now that the One X has arrived. But it's also unfair to compare a newly released phone to one that was unveiled last fall.
Just got one. I decided that fair enough, Apple stuff is very locked down, and it'll be interesting to have this "freedom" that Android users bleat on about
The jury is very much out.
With HTC at least, the freedom thing couldn't be much further from the truth, as unless you root it, it's locked down just as much as an iPhone - worse in some ways (e.g. there's an update out which they haven't pushed to me yet - I can't apply it manually without unlocking the bootloader). Whilst that doesn't sound so bad, if you root the HTC device or unlock the bootloader, it has to be done through HTC-Dev - sure they allow it, but they record the event and permanently void the warranty on your phone. Faulty buttons? Doesn't matter - they'll insist on replacing the motherboard at your cost due to it having "illegal" mods on it. (They've been told to use the term "illegal" even though it's open source and perfectly legal)
At least with Apple your warranty stays intact even if you jailbreak, as long as you restore it. This on the other hand goes on permanent record with HTC and makes you illegible even if you un-root.
Music in the UK is a pain in the backside if I want anything remotely as convenient as iTunes+iCloud - there's no Google Music here, there's Amazon Music but in the UK it doesn't integrate with Amazon Cloud yet and their Android app is crippled here, basically... yes I can just copy MP3s onto it which is a godsend when I'm away from my iTunes library (seriously isn't it about time they put the whole iTunes into the cloud?) but the whole experience with the music is backwards to say the least.
It's buggy:
There's a screen flicker problem
The colours are WAY oversaturated to the point of ridiculousness
The bluetooth media profile is very hit-and-miss with my car stereo - IF it connects, sometimes there's hiss
I often have to tap 2 or 3 times before the OS will register my tap
I haven't a clue what it backs up (it's not documented), I think that it automatically backs some stuff up to Google but I don't know what. And I don't know if there's even a way of backing up the apps, text messages and general configuration, without rooting (byebye warranty) and installing Titanium Backup. So that's always a worry.
There's no difference in vibration pattern between a text and an email (unless you root and hack it)
App organisation is - well, good enough, I just regret turning off the option where it automatically added an icon to the home screen - as the home screen supports folders but the launcher doesn't, it's just an alphabetical list of every app on the phone. So I have to go through adding them all to the home screen so I can categorise them - a laborious process with no equivalent of iTunes's relatively new on-screen app management.
The whole thing is quite complicated with about 10 different ways of doing anything. Picking up the iPhone is a bit of a relief as it's so simple.
In terms of apps and games, it's definitely a second class citizen compared to the iTunes App Store, full of far uglier alternatives with ads plastered all over them.
I note that they've gone down the iPhone route in more ways than just being locked down - sealed battery, sealed RAM, artificially limited USB port capability etc. All the disadvantages of Apple products without the polish...
So do I hate it? No I'm rather disappointed that it's not the phone of my dreams and has so many flaws, but it has good points.
The screen is FANTASTIC and the main reason I'm inclined to carry it around as my main phone despite its disadvantages. If Apple don't make at least some version of the iPhone 5 in this form factor, they're nuts and are just asking for HTC and Samsung to beat them. There's a world of difference between the two (the iPhone looks like looking through a keyhole in comparison) and yet it still feels perfectly comfortable in my pocket and hand.
The integration with Twitter and Facebook is great, and the ability to share things so easily with other services (which can add themselves to the share menu) is great. Thank goodness for Bluetooth file sharing without jailbreaking, too.
Being able to get at the filesystem easily and drop music or pictures or whatever else in without it throwing a fit like iOS would, is a breath of fresh air.
Widgets are great, as is the ability to mix them with icons
Visually I actually find it more appealing than iOS (from what I've seen ICS itself is still as ugly as sin, but HTC prettied it up wonderfully with Sense)
Technically / generally it "feels" superior as an OS, I'm sorry to say. Don't kill me, but iOS just seems dated and simplistic in comparison. OTOH, as I mentioned, it's not the easiest to use.
All in all I really don't know. I've had it since Friday and I'm undecided yet on the pros/cons balance. "We'll see"... some bugfixes and a UK Google Music store would definitely be the biggest things to tip the balance in its favour.
The jury is very much out.
With HTC at least, the freedom thing couldn't be much further from the truth, as unless you root it, it's locked down just as much as an iPhone - worse in some ways (e.g. there's an update out which they haven't pushed to me yet - I can't apply it manually without unlocking the bootloader). Whilst that doesn't sound so bad, if you root the HTC device or unlock the bootloader, it has to be done through HTC-Dev - sure they allow it, but they record the event and permanently void the warranty on your phone. Faulty buttons? Doesn't matter - they'll insist on replacing the motherboard at your cost due to it having "illegal" mods on it. (They've been told to use the term "illegal" even though it's open source and perfectly legal)
At least with Apple your warranty stays intact even if you jailbreak, as long as you restore it. This on the other hand goes on permanent record with HTC and makes you illegible even if you un-root.
Music in the UK is a pain in the backside if I want anything remotely as convenient as iTunes+iCloud - there's no Google Music here, there's Amazon Music but in the UK it doesn't integrate with Amazon Cloud yet and their Android app is crippled here, basically... yes I can just copy MP3s onto it which is a godsend when I'm away from my iTunes library (seriously isn't it about time they put the whole iTunes into the cloud?) but the whole experience with the music is backwards to say the least.
It's buggy:
There's a screen flicker problem
The colours are WAY oversaturated to the point of ridiculousness
The bluetooth media profile is very hit-and-miss with my car stereo - IF it connects, sometimes there's hiss
I often have to tap 2 or 3 times before the OS will register my tap
I haven't a clue what it backs up (it's not documented), I think that it automatically backs some stuff up to Google but I don't know what. And I don't know if there's even a way of backing up the apps, text messages and general configuration, without rooting (byebye warranty) and installing Titanium Backup. So that's always a worry.
There's no difference in vibration pattern between a text and an email (unless you root and hack it)
App organisation is - well, good enough, I just regret turning off the option where it automatically added an icon to the home screen - as the home screen supports folders but the launcher doesn't, it's just an alphabetical list of every app on the phone. So I have to go through adding them all to the home screen so I can categorise them - a laborious process with no equivalent of iTunes's relatively new on-screen app management.
The whole thing is quite complicated with about 10 different ways of doing anything. Picking up the iPhone is a bit of a relief as it's so simple.
In terms of apps and games, it's definitely a second class citizen compared to the iTunes App Store, full of far uglier alternatives with ads plastered all over them.
I note that they've gone down the iPhone route in more ways than just being locked down - sealed battery, sealed RAM, artificially limited USB port capability etc. All the disadvantages of Apple products without the polish...
So do I hate it? No
I'm rather disappointed that it's not the phone of my dreams and has so many flaws, but it has good points.The screen is FANTASTIC and the main reason I'm inclined to carry it around as my main phone despite its disadvantages. If Apple don't make at least some version of the iPhone 5 in this form factor, they're nuts and are just asking for HTC and Samsung to beat them. There's a world of difference between the two (the iPhone looks like looking through a keyhole in comparison) and yet it still feels perfectly comfortable in my pocket and hand.
The integration with Twitter and Facebook is great, and the ability to share things so easily with other services (which can add themselves to the share menu) is great. Thank goodness for Bluetooth file sharing without jailbreaking, too.
Being able to get at the filesystem easily and drop music or pictures or whatever else in without it throwing a fit like iOS would, is a breath of fresh air.
Widgets are great, as is the ability to mix them with icons
Visually I actually find it more appealing than iOS (from what I've seen ICS itself is still as ugly as sin, but HTC prettied it up wonderfully with Sense)
Technically / generally it "feels" superior as an OS, I'm sorry to say. Don't kill me, but iOS just seems dated and simplistic in comparison. OTOH, as I mentioned, it's not the easiest to use.
All in all I really don't know. I've had it since Friday and I'm undecided yet on the pros/cons balance. "We'll see"... some bugfixes and a UK Google Music store would definitely be the biggest things to tip the balance in its favour.
im quite excited to get mine tomorrow but the only issue im having is the issue regarding warranty.
i LOVE LOVE LOVE the fact that apple can service your phones on the spot. If you choose to jailbreak, thats fine, as long as you restore, apple will still warranty it if anything comes up.
I know for sure that once the bootloader is unlocked, i'll be looking towards more of a vanillia experience. but the problem is the fact that if i choose to go that route, i lose my warranty whether it is one week from now to 6 months from now. If my buttons somehow start messing up, HTC will deny a warranty swap because i technically "voided" it. As far as i can tell, Im not even sure if XDA will figure out a way to restore it to complete stock without HTC knowing it. When i was surfing there today, even rooting your device results in a "tampering" banner which already tells you that you've voided your warranty.
its quite stressful to decide whether its smarter to stick with a stock experience (i despise sense) or load up a vanilla rom (in the future) and in the process lose your warranty.
i LOVE LOVE LOVE the fact that apple can service your phones on the spot. If you choose to jailbreak, thats fine, as long as you restore, apple will still warranty it if anything comes up.
I know for sure that once the bootloader is unlocked, i'll be looking towards more of a vanillia experience. but the problem is the fact that if i choose to go that route, i lose my warranty whether it is one week from now to 6 months from now. If my buttons somehow start messing up, HTC will deny a warranty swap because i technically "voided" it. As far as i can tell, Im not even sure if XDA will figure out a way to restore it to complete stock without HTC knowing it. When i was surfing there today, even rooting your device results in a "tampering" banner which already tells you that you've voided your warranty.
its quite stressful to decide whether its smarter to stick with a stock experience (i despise sense) or load up a vanilla rom (in the future) and in the process lose your warranty.
That is so key for me as I have an Apple store within 10 minutes walking distance. I have had outstanding help there with a couple of faulty iphone 4s (proximity sensor primarily). The thought of having to mail back my phone (eg the HTC One X) for an issue and waiting for the return (even if they only keep the phone for 5 days or so) really gives me pause.
However, I really like the One X.
Yep. A comparison of my 4s running 3G and my Razr Maxx on LTE. This makes me never want to touch my 4s again. Probably going to sell it. It could have the best hardware known to man, but its useless over pathetic 3G. Whats that Apple? Oh, just keep waiting for tech that has been being used for over a year now? Seems to be a trend with you guys, always late with everything, no thanks.
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Incidentally the source regarding the warranty stuff is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
It's that which I find most disappointing really, as rooting would be an answer to a lot of the software issues.
Technically speaking in the UK I'd be covered through the retailer by law - though I think in reality what would happen is they'd parrot whatever HTC say and I'd have to take them to court to get it fixed (which they know full well most people can't afford or justify doing, so...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
It's that which I find most disappointing really, as rooting would be an answer to a lot of the software issues.
Technically speaking in the UK I'd be covered through the retailer by law - though I think in reality what would happen is they'd parrot whatever HTC say and I'd have to take them to court to get it fixed (which they know full well most people can't afford or justify doing, so...)
Seriously though, just try to be a little less biased and have a more open mind to other products. You never know you might come to enjoy them if you get to know them.
Try to be more like this guy:
Hi!
I'm not one to usually post on forums and so tend to just browse around and read reviews etc. I didn't need an account until today and felt I wanted to reply to this thread
not worth the effort
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Any device sold is quickly outdated. Thats a good thing. It means things are constantly progressing.
everyone says ICS is so much better. I for one have had the GNEX since day one and i'm counting the days I can go back to IOS
Other conversations posted with Verizon reps were a little clearer.
In any case, the official HTC unlocking support page says this:
"It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty. "
Basically, what they're all saying is that if you brick your phone or lose your data using custom software, they're not necessarily going to fix it for free. Ditto if they figure out that you burned up your CPU overclocking it to a gazillion GHz.
Seems pretty fair to me, although ambiguous enough to give HTC leeway. It seems better than Apple's rule that jailbreaking voids the hardware warranty even if the problem was, say, a broken volume switch.
Yes and no. Apple is always playing catch up these days. They just added features to the 4s and iOS 5 I have had on my Android phones for years. I miss the good ole days when they used to be innovative rather than just take features from others and put them in their products years later.