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bad03xtreme

macrumors 6502a
Jul 16, 2009
607
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Northern, VA
Will Verizon be getting the OneX in the future or is it specifically made for ATT?

I am looking to get a smartphone for the first time and the OneX seems like a good choice but I am on Verizon. :mad:
 

bad03xtreme

macrumors 6502a
Jul 16, 2009
607
144
Northern, VA

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
5,972
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I just got to use a One X for the first time outside of an AT&T store. My neighbor got one. The screen is just amazing but I now feel fine sticking with my iPhone until Apple releases something new. The One X feels awesome in your hand but it's slightly too big for me. (Especially evident when I went back to using my iPhone.) I have average to small adult male hands so if you have large hands you should be all set.

I do think this phone will be a big hit for AT&T and I'm happy that Apple is getting some worthy competition. But it's not for me. I would however recommend it to anyone who is interested in it.
 

Walter Bell

macrumors regular
Mar 25, 2010
209
0
Root is now available! Doesn't unlock your bootloader either so warranty isn't an issue. Reflashing the stock RUU removes the tampered banner also.
 

Peanut207

macrumors 6502
Mar 2, 2010
498
119
I had a chance to play around with an HTC One X today in an AT&T store and I was very impressed. Was very hard walking out of the store without it in hand. However, I am entrenched in Apples eco system and I don't want to abandon ship so quickly. I've had every iPhone since 2007. I will take a wait and see approach.

The next iPhone is right around the corner and I am willing to see what Apple has up it's sleeve. I do know one thing, if it is not at the very least a 4" or 4+" screen I will be heading right back into my AT&T store and walking out with the HTC One X. Everyone has their own opinion but in my eyes 3.5" just does not cut it anymore. As nice as the iPhone 4s's screen is (HTC One X is right on par) it really is starting to feel small. HTC's screen was absolutely beautiful and I didn't need to strain my eyes at all, plus the phone did not feel too big in my hands at all. I guess if you have very small hands the iPhone is perfect for you. It was also very smooth and fluid when scrolling which I feel Android has come along way with. That is one of the really big things that always turned me off to Android phones.

So imho, Apple really needs to make a statement with their next iPhone announcement. A slimmer, sleeker design with a larger display along with IOS 6 will get Apple back on top. I am eagerly awaiting. :)
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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Just got one. I decided that fair enough, Apple stuff is very locked down, and it'll be interesting to have this "freedom" that Android users bleat on about :p

The jury is very much out.

With HTC at least, the freedom thing couldn't be much further from the truth, as unless you root it, it's locked down just as much as an iPhone - worse in some ways (e.g. there's an update out which they haven't pushed to me yet - I can't apply it manually without unlocking the bootloader). Whilst that doesn't sound so bad, if you root the HTC device or unlock the bootloader, it has to be done through HTC-Dev - sure they allow it, but they record the event and permanently void the warranty on your phone. Faulty buttons? Doesn't matter - they'll insist on replacing the motherboard at your cost due to it having "illegal" mods on it. (They've been told to use the term "illegal" even though it's open source and perfectly legal)
At least with Apple your warranty stays intact even if you jailbreak, as long as you restore it. This on the other hand goes on permanent record with HTC and makes you illegible even if you un-root.

Music in the UK is a pain in the backside if I want anything remotely as convenient as iTunes+iCloud - there's no Google Music here, there's Amazon Music but in the UK it doesn't integrate with Amazon Cloud yet and their Android app is crippled here, basically... yes I can just copy MP3s onto it which is a godsend when I'm away from my iTunes library (seriously isn't it about time they put the whole iTunes into the cloud?) but the whole experience with the music is backwards to say the least.

It's buggy:
There's a screen flicker problem
The colours are WAY oversaturated to the point of ridiculousness
The bluetooth media profile is very hit-and-miss with my car stereo - IF it connects, sometimes there's hiss
I often have to tap 2 or 3 times before the OS will register my tap

I haven't a clue what it backs up (it's not documented), I think that it automatically backs some stuff up to Google but I don't know what. And I don't know if there's even a way of backing up the apps, text messages and general configuration, without rooting (byebye warranty) and installing Titanium Backup. So that's always a worry.

There's no difference in vibration pattern between a text and an email (unless you root and hack it)

App organisation is - well, good enough, I just regret turning off the option where it automatically added an icon to the home screen - as the home screen supports folders but the launcher doesn't, it's just an alphabetical list of every app on the phone. So I have to go through adding them all to the home screen so I can categorise them - a laborious process with no equivalent of iTunes's relatively new on-screen app management.

The whole thing is quite complicated with about 10 different ways of doing anything. Picking up the iPhone is a bit of a relief as it's so simple.

In terms of apps and games, it's definitely a second class citizen compared to the iTunes App Store, full of far uglier alternatives with ads plastered all over them.

I note that they've gone down the iPhone route in more ways than just being locked down - sealed battery, sealed RAM, artificially limited USB port capability etc. All the disadvantages of Apple products without the polish...


So do I hate it? No :D I'm rather disappointed that it's not the phone of my dreams and has so many flaws, but it has good points.

The screen is FANTASTIC and the main reason I'm inclined to carry it around as my main phone despite its disadvantages. If Apple don't make at least some version of the iPhone 5 in this form factor, they're nuts and are just asking for HTC and Samsung to beat them. There's a world of difference between the two (the iPhone looks like looking through a keyhole in comparison) and yet it still feels perfectly comfortable in my pocket and hand.

The integration with Twitter and Facebook is great, and the ability to share things so easily with other services (which can add themselves to the share menu) is great. Thank goodness for Bluetooth file sharing without jailbreaking, too.

Being able to get at the filesystem easily and drop music or pictures or whatever else in without it throwing a fit like iOS would, is a breath of fresh air.

Widgets are great, as is the ability to mix them with icons

Visually I actually find it more appealing than iOS (from what I've seen ICS itself is still as ugly as sin, but HTC prettied it up wonderfully with Sense)

Technically / generally it "feels" superior as an OS, I'm sorry to say. Don't kill me, but iOS just seems dated and simplistic in comparison. OTOH, as I mentioned, it's not the easiest to use.


All in all I really don't know. I've had it since Friday and I'm undecided yet on the pros/cons balance. "We'll see"... some bugfixes and a UK Google Music store would definitely be the biggest things to tip the balance in its favour.

I don't have an HTC device but I've used sense and there are solutions to most your problems without root. I think just more time and experience with it and you'll be happier rather then more frustrated.
 

Yumunum

macrumors 65816
Apr 24, 2011
1,452
0
U.S.
(finally) used one today. Before now I had only tried the One S from T-Mobile. The One X is pretty amazing.

-camera is great. Starts up SUPER fast, takes pictures fast, and has lots of options.

-scrolling is smooth

-the device looks beautiful

-multitasking menu was ruined. They should've left it at the ICS default.

-the keyboard felt surprisingly good for the few moments I used it. I should've tested it more.

-the screen looks amazing

-makes browsing on the iPhone seem kinda lame

-I like the ability to remove the lock screen completely. Turning the device off/on standby is super quick.

-some interesting theme choices

-the default browser was annoying. But you can download Chrome. What's nice about Android is you can change how the device handles links, ect. You should be able to make things open in Chrome by default.

-turning off animations makes things nice and fast

-the Google Search app is great

-TONS of widgets

-there's a shortcut to settings right from the notification bar

-HTC kept the swipe-to-remove-notification feature, which is GREAT. On the iPhone it completely sucks when you want to remove a notification. You're stuck either opening the notification or wiping all the notifications for that app.

-the launcher seemed good. But there's a good chance I'd still replace it with something like ADWLauncher EX. With that big screen and high resolution, I might be able to adjust the grid size and fit everything I want on one screen.

-YouTube app beats iPhone's
-Maps app beats iPhone's
-built in Google Talk > iMessage
-includes nice little flashlight app


If I could have a 5.5" version that could be even better.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Another the thing, the iPhone 4S is from October 2011, the HTC One X is from April 2012. That's a 6 month-gap.

Usually, people use their phones for about 2 years. Why switch to another inferior ecosystem/OS when the new iPhone will be released in just a few months?

I really don't understand how easily people give up on iMessage, daily backups, excellent software support (3GS still gets all the updates!), the great camera, iCloud in general, photo stream, the notifications (stolen from Android, but better than Android), AirPlay, the tons of apps you must've already bought by now, the best music and mail app (really, Android doesn't come close), the multitasking, the AppStore, etc. All of that just because there is a new phone which has slightly better hardware (even though the camera still sucks).

Such a shame.

:rolleyes: absolutely false. iPhone just got notifications and they arent even as good...let alone better. Next thing your going to tell us is that Google Maps is better on the iPhone?
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
:rolleyes: absolutely false. iPhone just got notifications and they arent even as good...let alone better. Next thing your going to tell us is that Google Maps is better on the iPhone?

He mentioned iOS's superior multitasking. LOL!

I can't even use another alarm clock like sleep cycle without it running in the foreground. What good is an alarm clock on a phone if I have to set it right before bed and any interruption will turn it off. Lol.

Still not impressed with iOS's mail client vs Android but if that's someone's preference then so be it.
 

ericdajerk

macrumors newbie
Sep 15, 2011
15
0
I currently own it and i have no thoughts of going back to iPhone, im glad after 4 years of the same iPhone wall of apps i finally changed over. I don't even care what the iPhone 5 looks like its no way im coming back. Its just SOooooo much more you can do with this phone. Not only that the screen is amazing, the battery life last the same as my old iphone. This was a no brainer for me.
 

twigman08

macrumors 6502
Apr 13, 2012
478
1
He mentioned iOS's superior multitasking. LOL!

Even though I agree mostly with him on some of the points (important points that have me still on the iPhone), he is way wrong on the multitasking part. I do like Apples way of "pausing" an app. What I do not like though is the limited amount of multitasking features Apple has locked the developers into. Apple should at least open up a few more areas of the SDK for a couple more multitasking items. One is being able to use a better alarm clock without having to leave it as the running app. Pretty sad Apple won't even allow developers to access the clock or timer features while running in the background.

He almost mentioned notifications. Notification are a lot better than they used to be when they came in like iOS3. Though they are still pretty terrible. I wonder if Apple will ever get Notifications correct. They've been working on them for a while now.

Though he did mention a few things that keeps me with the iPhone. I absolutely love the ease of iCloud backup, iMessage, the money I've spent on my great apps that I love (I really don't want to have to find another app and buy it again, that'd end up costing me a lot more in the end), and more.
 

Peanut207

macrumors 6502
Mar 2, 2010
498
119
I currently own it and i have no thoughts of going back to iPhone, im glad after 4 years of the same iPhone wall of apps i finally changed over. I don't even care what the iPhone 5 looks like its no way im coming back. Its just SOooooo much more you can do with this phone. Not only that the screen is amazing, the battery life last the same as my old iphone. This was a no brainer for me.

Glad you're liking it. Just curious, how did you sync everything over (contacts, music etc.) from your iPhone to the HTC? Seems like it would be a hassle.
 

OceanView

macrumors 65816
Sep 16, 2005
1,094
39
I had a chance to play around with an HTC One X today in an AT&T store and I was very impressed. Was very hard walking out of the store without it in hand. However, I am entrenched in Apples eco system and I don't want to abandon ship so quickly. I've had every iPhone since 2007. I will take a wait and see approach.

The next iPhone is right around the corner and I am willing to see what Apple has up it's sleeve. I do know one thing, if it is not at the very least a 4" or 4+" screen I will be heading right back into my AT&T store and walking out with the HTC One X. Everyone has their own opinion but in my eyes 3.5" just does not cut it anymore. As nice as the iPhone 4s's screen is (HTC One X is right on par) it really is starting to feel small. HTC's screen was absolutely beautiful and I didn't need to strain my eyes at all, plus the phone did not feel too big in my hands at all. I guess if you have very small hands the iPhone is perfect for you. It was also very smooth and fluid when scrolling which I feel Android has come along way with. That is one of the really big things that always turned me off to Android phones.

So imho, Apple really needs to make a statement with their next iPhone announcement. A slimmer, sleeker design with a larger display along with IOS 6 will get Apple back on top. I am eagerly awaiting. :)

I pretty much feel the same as you do. I'm waiting for the next iPhone before I jump ship to an Android device. There are just too many nicer phones on Android compared to the iphone 4s.
Apple better make a big hit or I feel many will move over to the competition.
 

DodgeV83

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2012
879
6
He mentioned iOS's superior multitasking. LOL!

I can't even use another alarm clock like sleep cycle without it running in the foreground. What good is an alarm clock on a phone if I have to set it right before bed and any interruption will turn it off. Lol.

Still not impressed with iOS's mail client vs Android but if that's someone's preference then so be it.

As mentioned in my thread, MotionX Sleep can run in the background, and has a bunch of other features, making it much better than Sleep Cycle :)
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
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As mentioned in my thread, MotionX Sleep can run in the background, and has a bunch of other features, making it much better than Sleep Cycle :)

I noticed! Didn't realize of all the innovations iOS 5 brought to the table. :) I'd just kind of given up. Regardless it's still an alarm clock that has to be manually activated. If I clear the task tray or even turn the phone off and back on it's off compared to a normal alarm clock (native app) that is always on.

Anyway, then try this amazing trick. (I'd normally say download a large file from the browser and immediately put the phone to sleep but that's out).

Find a graphically intense web page (something that doesn't load immediately). Keep scrolling your finger on the screen. iOS will freeze everything except your scrolling, won't load or even download the web page. That's very fundamental multitasking IMO.
 
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DodgeV83

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2012
879
6
I noticed! Didn't realize of all the innovations iOS 5 brought to the table. :) I'd just kind of given up. Regardless it's still an alarm clock that has to be manually activated. If I clear the task tray or even turn the phone off and back on it's off compared to a normal alarm clock (native app) that is always on.

Anyway, then try this amazing trick. (I'd normally say download a large file from the browser and immediately put the phone to sleep but that's out).

Find a graphically intense web page (something that doesn't load immediately). Keep scrolling your finger on the screen. iOS will freeze everything except your scrolling, won't load or even download the web page. That's very fundamental multitasking IMO.

My Place Clock alarms will persist even if I turn the phone off and on, and clear it from the app tray. Furthermore, having to manually activate a sleep tracking app isn't an OS limitation, it's kind of the whole point of the app. You have to manually activate the app, so it knows when you're going to sleep. It can't track your sleep if it doesn't know when you're going to sleep.

Lastly, I find it interesting that you chose the one "multitasking" example that directly leads to the choppiness that people complain about on Adroid devices. If you'd prefer choppiness over smooth scrolling, try a third party app like Atomic Web. It will keep loading while scrolling, again pointing out that your complaints are not OS limitations.

Lastly, you can download large files from Atomic Web, along with many other browsers, and they will keep downloading after putting the phone to sleep.
 

Cloudane

macrumors 68000
Aug 6, 2007
1,627
217
Sweet Apple Acres
Wall-of-replies time, as it's interesting :)

Basically, what they're all saying is that if you brick your phone or lose your data using custom software, they're not necessarily going to fix it for free. Ditto if they figure out that you burned up your CPU overclocking it to a gazillion GHz.

Seems pretty fair to me, although ambiguous enough to give HTC leeway. It seems better than Apple's rule that jailbreaking voids the hardware warranty even if the problem was, say, a broken volume switch.

That is 100% fair.

What people have been claiming on that warranty thread though is that they've been just blindly turning phones around from repair if they have been {rooted/unlocked/S-off'd/whatever the term is, I've not learned them all yet}, regardless of the fault, saying that they'd have to replace the motherboard so they can put it back to a factory state.

Allegedly even though it's worded "may void" they are applying a rule of "will void"

True that Apple's stance on it is like that, however it's really easy to restore an iPhone back to the locked and unjailbroken state, with no evidence that it's ever been jailbroken. Unlike HTC's servers which keep a record of the event - it's this which worries me if they're taking a hard-line "if it's ever been rooted, forget your warranty" approach.

However it's not just them. A lot of the people in that thread are screaming about how they'll jump ship to Samsung, but:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405682
They have the same policy.

Yes and no. Apple is always playing catch up these days. They just added features to the 4s and iOS 5 I have had on my Android phones for years. I miss the good ole days when they used to be innovative rather than just take features from others and put them in their products years later.

To be honest, Apple have always been behind on features. The first iPhone didn't even have MMS :p
Where they innovate is in ease of use (and I have to admit, the iPhone is still far easier to use. I'd not want to give my HTC to my grandma as even I scratched my head with it here and there, but I think she'd cope fine with an iPhone)

Root is now available! Doesn't unlock your bootloader either so warranty isn't an issue. Reflashing the stock RUU removes the tampered banner also.

Ooh, now that's interesting. I'll have to do some reading up.

I don't have an HTC device but I've used sense and there are solutions to most your problems without root. I think just more time and experience with it and you'll be happier rather then more frustrated.

Yeah I sure hope so!
Hopefully the bugs will be ironed out,
Google will get their music store to the UK (until then I'll take the traditional music management approach)
I'll figure out the best way to back it up (though I do think iOS's "don't worry we'll back up everything to your computer or the cloud" system is very reassuring and simple)
I'll keep the "add app to home screen" option turned on, that way I lose nothing and gain an app menu
I'll get used to how things work
Apps and games - not having things like 8 Bit Rally, Final Fantasy, Pinball Fantasies etc is disappointing, I'll keep my iPhone still but it's still a separate device. However I think ICS will cause another big surge in Android popularity and it'll therefore continue getting better software. Only time will tell.
Sealed battery and stuff - well, I've not lost anything coming from the iPhone.
Yeah it's not so bad - I was just a bit frustrated with the bugs, and the lack of decent music options in the UK apart from iTunes.

Replying inside your quote as it's easier. Happy new device!

-multitasking menu was ruined. They should've left it at the ICS default.
Guessing this can be modded, although it'd require root

-makes browsing on the iPhone seem kinda lame
Agreed. It's a world of difference. Take a big site like dpreview.com and load it on both and place them side by side - it's clear which is the better browsing experience :)

-the default browser was annoying. But you can download Chrome. What's nice about Android is you can change how the device handles links, ect. You should be able to make things open in Chrome by default.
That's interesting, I thought the browser was just a re-badged Chrome. I may do the same. The default browser is so-so. I do like the text reflow when zooming in..

-HTC kept the swipe-to-remove-notification feature, which is GREAT. On the iPhone it completely sucks when you want to remove a notification. You're stuck either opening the notification or wiping all the notifications for that app.
I'd be darned, I've been opening the notifications to check my email etc just to clear them. Thanks for the tip!

Side note, I'm loving the home screen and the "scenes" system. I can have a work scene with all the widgets and icons relevant for there and have all my other apps hidden away in the main app menu - awesome. Love love love it.

He mentioned iOS's superior multitasking. LOL!

To be fair, Apple have innovated very well with the multitasking facilities they put in place IMO, to conserve system resources without you having to worry about closing things. It's very Apple - it takes the worry out of your hands and deals with things itself ("Just Works(TM)"), leaving you free to get on with your work. But this does also suffer from the lack of flexibility.

I think as for me, I've come full circle. I dumbed myself down to match my following of Apple, and now I'm coming back to a view of "I'm a big boy, I know what processes are and to go into the task manager and close things if my phone/OS is struggling - give me the flexibility and freedom"

I pretty much feel the same as you do. I'm waiting for the next iPhone before I jump ship to an Android device. There are just too many nicer phones on Android compared to the iphone 4s.
Apple better make a big hit or I feel many will move over to the competition.

Yeah I'm still a fan of Apple and I worry for them. They seem to be in this rut recently (not just with iPhone but with their computers) of mostly just making minor refinements every year. They need to keep the revolutions going!
 

iamthedudeman

macrumors 65816
Jul 7, 2007
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317
I have and just as i was trying to say, you just needed more time with it to appreciate it. Seems to have been the problem :p

Very true. I love this phone. I feel like a kid in a candy store. I am finding out different things every day, menus, apps, certain tricks that only Android can do. The Google navigation app turn into a full fledged Navigation device when docked in to the HTC car dock. I got one last week but haven't used it since I only got it when i use rent a cars when I travel.

Well let me tell you it works as well as my Lexus nav system in my car. it has a special Navigation mode when docked in to the car dock. Not the same as docking the iphone into a car dock. The whole menu system changes to a car nav system.

Even better since I receive calls while the navigation is going. I can even tell it who to call via voice commands on ICS. Very accurate, as accurate as Siri.

I am at CTIA on business and have alot to tell about that. Too busy right now, but the One X was one of the hits of the show let me tell you. I used a Galaxy S3 along with my One X and the One X made the Galaxy feel cheap in comparison.

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I pretty much feel the same as you do. I'm waiting for the next iPhone before I jump ship to an Android device. There are just too many nicer phones on Android compared to the iphone 4s.
Apple better make a big hit or I feel many will move over to the competition.


Why do people feel that they have to give up Apple's eco-system to enjoy a Android device such as the One X? The phone syncs as seamlessly as my iphone 4s to my Macbook Pro. Calenders, contacts, tasks, everything.

If you have the Apple eco-system your shiny new One X will integrate nicely without a hiccup.

On the task manager front. The One X task manager is one of the highlights of the phone for me. Much better than the Iphone wiggle icons. Just swipe the running apps up and out of the way. Very intuitive and easy.

Also the stock browser is just a rebadged chrome. And the only browser that is truely full-screen. No menu bar with the three dots to speak of. Like the rest of the browsers like Dolphin HD or Opera, etc. I tried every browser on the Google play store, the stock browser is the best of them all in my opinion. Better even than chrome beta. Chrome beta doesn't have full screen yet.

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Glad you're liking it. Just curious, how did you sync everything over (contacts, music etc.) from your iPhone to the HTC? Seems like it would be a hassle.

Not a hassle at all. Google contacts, google calender, google tasks, all sync with ical, contacts, music etc. They can all be synced with your mac. If you have google products and use them, they all sync over and in essence should be already synced with your mac. If not here is how you do it:

Google music:

http://www.rickystechworld.com/2011/11/how-to-sync-your-itunes-library-with.html

Contacts, Calender, Mail.

http://www.google.com/sync/mac.html

I am using this currently, works as well as my native iphone. Just as easy as plugging in your iphone.

http://mac.eltima.com/sync-mac.html
 

cardinalryan

macrumors 6502
Jul 1, 2010
457
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Very true. I love this phone. I feel like a kid in a candy store. I am finding out different things every day, menus, apps, certain tricks that only Android can do. The Google navigation app turn into a full fledged Navigation device when docked in to the HTC car dock. I got one last week but haven't used it since I only got it when i use rent a cars when I travel.

Well let me tell you it works as well as my Lexus nav system in my car. it has a special Navigation mode when docked in to the car dock. Not the same as docking the iphone into a car dock. The whole menu system changes to a car nav system.

Even better since I receive calls while the navigation is going. I can even tell it who to call via voice commands on ICS. Very accurate, as accurate as Siri.

I am at CTIA on business and have alot to tell about that. Too busy right now, but the One X was one of the hits of the show let me tell you. I used a Galaxy S3 along with my One X and the One X made the Galaxy feel cheap in comparison.

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Why do people feel that they have to give up Apple's eco-system to enjoy a Android device such as the One X? The phone syncs as seamlessly as my iphone 4s to my Macbook Pro. Calenders, contacts, tasks, everything.

If you have the Apple eco-system your shiny new One X will integrate nicely without a hiccup.

On the task manager front. The One X task manager is one of the highlights of the phone for me. Much better than the Iphone wiggle icons. Just swipe the running apps up and out of the way. Very intuitive and easy.

Also the stock browser is just a rebadged chrome. And the only browser that is truely full-screen. No menu bar with the three dots to speak of. Like the rest of the browsers like Dolphin HD or Opera, etc. I tried every browser on the Google play store, the stock browser is the best of them all in my opinion. Better even than chrome beta. Chrome beta doesn't have full screen yet.

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Not a hassle at all. Google contacts, google calender, google tasks, all sync with ical, contacts, music etc. They can all be synced with your mac. If you have google products and use them, they all sync over and in essence should be already synced with your mac. If not here is how you do it:

Google music:

http://www.rickystechworld.com/2011/11/how-to-sync-your-itunes-library-with.html

Contacts, Calender, Mail.

http://www.google.com/sync/mac.html

I am using this currently, works as well as my native iphone. Just as easy as plugging in your iphone.

http://mac.eltima.com/sync-mac.html
Thanks for that link! Google music is amazing...did not know that it was this easy!!
 

kevinof

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2008
744
161
Dublin/London
if you want to keep itunes for purchasing music then buy isyncr from the market (couple of euros). It will sync from your itunes playlists direct to your Android phone. Works great.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
My Place Clock alarms will persist even if I turn the phone off and on, and clear it from the app tray. Furthermore, having to manually activate a sleep tracking app isn't an OS limitation, it's kind of the whole point of the app. You have to manually activate the app, so it knows when you're going to sleep. It can't track your sleep if it doesn't know when you're going to sleep.

Lastly, I find it interesting that you chose the one "multitasking" example that directly leads to the choppiness that people complain about on Adroid devices. If you'd prefer choppiness over smooth scrolling, try a third party app like Atomic Web. It will keep loading while scrolling, again pointing out that your complaints are not OS limitations.

Lastly, you can download large files from Atomic Web, along with many other browsers, and they will keep downloading after putting the phone to sleep.

Couple points.

One, I usually use safari because there is no "set as default" for me to use another browser.

Second, Atomic is my iOS browser of choice. It most certainly has the same behavior as safari. Most apps do but it's the easiest to see in a browser. Some apps work differently like tapatalk. Tapatalk will freeze its UI with "loading" so it can do its thing without UI effecting it's performance. But usually downloading / loading is frozen during UI and if it's constant UI it's frozen indefinitely. Regardless Atomic freezes not by it's choice but by the OS. You know this it's been this way since the start!

NEVER had good luck with downloading anything off the web with any iOS browser. Maybe you can share a link, I always get browser not supported message. Mostly from those file sharing web site, which work fine on even the stock android browser.
 
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