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No you're not. I am in the same boat. If I can get a refund on my iPhone 4S, I'm getting it.
I'm thinking about getting this phone, the hardware just makes my 4s look ancient and I was going to try and hold off for Apple's announcement, but the more I look at the One X the more I like the design of it. My question is, how is the app quality on Android these days? I had a Thunderbolt as my last Android Phone and the apps back then did not have the same amount of features available, etc as my iPod touch apps, leading me to get iPhone. Are they comparable these days? Anyone that has left iPhone and had this one for more than a couple weeks, what is your input? Was it worth the switch? I read the whole thread and it seems like most just got the phone and tried it a few days and returned it, and that is just not enough time I feel to set up and get comfortable with a new operating system.
After pre-ordering and using the One X for about a week, I switched back to the iPhone 4S. The One X was fun for a while but then the little annoying stuff began to creep up and started to hinder the entire user experience. FYI- LTE is unbelievable and that alone almost kept me from switching back.
My major issue with the device was that the multitasking is completely crippled compared to the Galaxy Nexus and stock Android ICS. Even the iPhone 4S multitasking is far superior to the One X. I started a thread over at xda developers and you can see it's now 25 pages long with hundreds of complaints.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
Also, the AT&T version of the device has a locked bootloader which prevents users from installing custom ROMS and Kernels. When I used the Galaxy Nexus, this was one of the major benefits of Android over iOS so without this, the device is crippled (again).
Another major issue (which may surprise some) is that email is absolutely awful on the One X. First, push notifications were completely whacky and sometimes took 15+ minutes to notify me of new messages. Another thread I started about the issue on XDA has many other users confirming this behavior.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1640686
My second issue with email is that HTML emails don't fit the screen. You're forced to scroll back and forth all over the email just to read what you want to see. It's cumbersome and simply ugly.
There were other issues with SMS notifications and Wifi being brutal (supposedly HTC acknowledged this issue and is in the process of developing a fix) that together, made the device a pain in the ass.
Those are the major issues I had with the device and why I ended up switching back to the iPhone. That's not to say the One X isn't a great device b/c it is...I just ran into too many problems and have too many gripes for me to use it as my primary mobile device.
My major issue with the device was that the multitasking is completely crippled compared to the Galaxy Nexus and stock Android ICS. Even the iPhone 4S multitasking is far superior to the One X. I started a thread over at xda developers and you can see it's now 25 pages long with hundreds of complaints.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
Also, the AT&T version of the device has a locked bootloader which prevents users from installing custom ROMS and Kernels. When I used the Galaxy Nexus, this was one of the major benefits of Android over iOS so without this, the device is crippled (again).
Another major issue (which may surprise some) is that email is absolutely awful on the One X. First, push notifications were completely whacky and sometimes took 15+ minutes to notify me of new messages. Another thread I started about the issue on XDA has many other users confirming this behavior.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1640686
My second issue with email is that HTML emails don't fit the screen. You're forced to scroll back and forth all over the email just to read what you want to see. It's cumbersome and simply ugly.
There were other issues with SMS notifications and Wifi being brutal (supposedly HTC acknowledged this issue and is in the process of developing a fix) that together, made the device a pain in the ass.
Those are the major issues I had with the device and why I ended up switching back to the iPhone. That's not to say the One X isn't a great device b/c it is...I just ran into too many problems and have too many gripes for me to use it as my primary mobile device.
To be honest, the reason for my getting the HTC One X had more to do with a bunch of expiring Best Buy Reward Zone points. My points were expiring by month's end, and my 3GS was acting slower & slower. Knowing the new iPhone wasn't coming to till later in the year, tired of the small screen, I was attracted to the One X's design.
One of the other reasons for going with an android phone this time around, was I wanted a few more customization options, and I didn't want to jailbreak. Besides jail breaking always seemed to be a way to make an iPhone act like an android phone.
I remember when I got the first iPhone, there was a learning curve involved, things it couldn't do, wished it could do, etc. That's the same approach I take to the One X. Sure there's things I am used to from the iPhone, but the funs is in learning how to do the same things in the Android system. After all, I had the same issues going from PC to Mac. Seems silly just to jump ship after a day or two, just because of a few frustrations.
One of the other reasons for going with an android phone this time around, was I wanted a few more customization options, and I didn't want to jailbreak. Besides jail breaking always seemed to be a way to make an iPhone act like an android phone.
I remember when I got the first iPhone, there was a learning curve involved, things it couldn't do, wished it could do, etc. That's the same approach I take to the One X. Sure there's things I am used to from the iPhone, but the funs is in learning how to do the same things in the Android system. After all, I had the same issues going from PC to Mac. Seems silly just to jump ship after a day or two, just because of a few frustrations.
Curious: why did you choose the title "multitasking" for that thread?
From what I've read, it has nothing to do with actual multitasking. It seems only to be about how long past apps are kept frozen in memory before they're kicked out and have to start from scratch again. (Basically, the same technique that Apple later adopted for iOS.)
As an aside, I've noticed that my Nexus often (but not always) seems similarily aggressive about kicking out apps. I wonder what's changed.
Absolutely. I too switched from iPhone to Android, and it was easier learning IOS for me than ICS, but once you learn either OS, they are both terrific.
My wires upgrade is due and I'm thinking of using some BBY rewards and gift cards for that as well. I hate to do it because I'm not thrilled about service at BBY, but money is money.
How are you jumping back into your apps?
The long-press-on-Home-Key method seems to be the obsolete method with ICS's new recent app button. Also, the long-press-on-home method wouldn't work on some apps (like gmail)
The recent app button does a better job of putting me back into more apps and does a way better job of remembering their 'state'
If it were multitasking like the iPhone that would have been an improvement over what the current implementation is. The OS doesn't allow apps to do most functions in the background and almost every time I use the recent app button to go back to the web browser the page had to refresh. If I'm typing a message to a friend and I jump to check something in another app and then jump back to my message, all my text is lost. Multitasking is a disaster and nightmare on the One X and it's not like that at ALL on the Galaxy Nexus.
I thought this was an OS thing and not a phone thing? Assuming the One X has equal to or more RAM than the Galaxy Nexus (I'm sure it does), shouldn't they perform identically?
Not really.
This is the one thing that irritates me about Android.
Phone manufactures tweak features, and in some cases break them in an attempt at improving the experience.
This is why a lot of people are on places like XDA.
The goal of many is to get a true AOSP experience on better hardware then what the Nexus devices offer.
In theory, yes. But every manufacturer can tweak their custom ROMS any way they choose. It seems as though HTC crippled multitasking in Sense 4.0 in order to improve the battery life of this device. But, to me, it's kinda pointless to have 1 GB of RAM and a powerful processor if you can't even utilize it!
Again, it doesn't sound like you're talking about multitasking. Apps that are made to do things in the background will continue to do so.
You're talking about fast recent app switching, which is something totally different. It's as if the OS is too aggressive about taking back memory.
Interestingly, that's one of the things I like about Android... there's competition between multiple groups of coders to figure out a better way. It breeds innovation in a way that a single company could not afford to do.
Alright I will chime in..
Iphone user since day 1..
Started really getting tired of iOS around the end of the 3gs period...tried a couple androids around that time..HORRIBLE. Fast foward to last year, waited for the Galaxy Nexus for months.. Got it and LOVED IT..Very smooth phone, just as smooth as iOS IMO. Kept it for about 4 months but there are two reasons i came back to iphone.
1. Battery life on weekends, phone would make it through the entire day but once i got to about 10pm on a Friday or Saturday Night then it pissed me off if the battery was toast.
2. I have a $1000 stereo in my truck that runs off the iPod. To much of a feature to give up. Ya I could have boughten just an older 120gb iPod or something for a $100 but i don't want two devices.
Other than that, i would say i loved the Gnex more than 4s. The other part of it was build quality, the phone did feel cheap. But towards the end i did find some really nice aluminum cases that would have made it feel just as good as the iPhone.
ICS is liquid smooth on the Gnex, any other device then you start getting all the companies add-on features, Sense, touchwiz...ect. They are what kills Android every time. One thing i did learn and was very easy to do was to change ROM's. If you have a OneX and don't like it, install a stock ICS Rom on it. It will no doubt be more smooth than my Gnex was since the hardware is better. If you can Jailbreak, then you can install a ROM. It's just as easy.
Iphone user since day 1..
Started really getting tired of iOS around the end of the 3gs period...tried a couple androids around that time..HORRIBLE. Fast foward to last year, waited for the Galaxy Nexus for months.. Got it and LOVED IT..Very smooth phone, just as smooth as iOS IMO. Kept it for about 4 months but there are two reasons i came back to iphone.
1. Battery life on weekends, phone would make it through the entire day but once i got to about 10pm on a Friday or Saturday Night then it pissed me off if the battery was toast.
2. I have a $1000 stereo in my truck that runs off the iPod. To much of a feature to give up. Ya I could have boughten just an older 120gb iPod or something for a $100 but i don't want two devices.
Other than that, i would say i loved the Gnex more than 4s. The other part of it was build quality, the phone did feel cheap. But towards the end i did find some really nice aluminum cases that would have made it feel just as good as the iPhone.
ICS is liquid smooth on the Gnex, any other device then you start getting all the companies add-on features, Sense, touchwiz...ect. They are what kills Android every time. One thing i did learn and was very easy to do was to change ROM's. If you have a OneX and don't like it, install a stock ICS Rom on it. It will no doubt be more smooth than my Gnex was since the hardware is better. If you can Jailbreak, then you can install a ROM. It's just as easy.
I agree, but so far none of them are doing a great job on the core functionality side. I see some cool features added here and there, but many times at the expense of battery life or functionality.
TouchWiz absolutely sucks on ICS.
The new 4.0.4 build that leaked out yesterday for the Skyrocket actually fixed a few things they broke in the previous 4.0.3 builds.
It's like they kept getting worse and then they got a clue.
I think the Samsung devs went to XDA and saw all the complaints and fixes being made and incorporated them into the new ICS 4.0.4 build.
Looks like some sites are starting to pick up on the One X multitasking issue I previously mentioned...
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-x-issue-breaks-android-multi-tasking-85598/
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-x-issue-breaks-android-multi-tasking-85598/
I also bought a One X but will also be returning it. It just has too many small bugs that kill the experience.
So say you are writing a text message, and you close it out for a second to answer a phone call, or to check something on your webkit browser, then whatever you have written disappears when you reopen your text?
Not when answering a phone call but when switching to another app (like the browser example you gave) and then going back to the text message will reload the app and delete any unsent text.
Just tried that on mine and I couldn't re-create it.
I was replying to a text message, stopped halfway through, clicked the app switcher button went into the Chrome browser, changed website and then went into the multitasking screen and went back to the message app, my half written text message was still there.
This is on a unbranded UK model running 1.29.401.7
I was replying to a text message, stopped halfway through, clicked the app switcher button went into the Chrome browser, changed website and then went into the multitasking screen and went back to the message app, my half written text message was still there.
This is on a unbranded UK model running 1.29.401.7
Supposedly the issue isn't as bad on the unlocked quad core version of the device. It's the AT&T version that is having the significant and major issues.
I've had an unfinished text stay for a couple days. I forgot about it and I didn't notice it until the next time I went to text that person.
You'll find multitasking an android is very similar to iOS in respect to opening apps back up after they have been closed. In android nothing will change unless the device needs the memory for current apps. I see this on my 4S too, if I lets say tapatalk fall too far back like 10-15 apps in the tray when I click on it it will open fresh (doesn't seem like the native iOS do this though).
If you have an android device and every time you reopen an app it starts over then there is an issue. Something is being a resource hog. There are app to help you find the issue.
I've found iOS to be a lot better at this aspect of multitasking even compared to Android devices that arent known for this issue.
If you have an android device and every time you reopen an app it starts over then there is an issue. Something is being a resource hog. There are app to help you find the issue.
I've found iOS to be a lot better at this aspect of multitasking even compared to Android devices that arent known for this issue.