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How do you know that they "very much want to restore faith in the Macbook line"? I'm not being snarky, but I'm curious as to how you can be so certain?

Do you know, historically, what Macbook sales have been like over the past 3-5 years? Here's a link. It seems pretty steady and not indicative of any troublesome trend. The casual person (who doesn't visit sites like MacRumors) is not aware of most of the issues that are being reported. If they don't experience it themselves firsthand, then they simply keep on keeping on.

High profile YouTubers who have experienced issues with their Mac devices, in the end, said that they'll continue to buy them. What that tells people is that no matter how bad the situation is, the alternatives (in their opinion) are worse.
I’m going on comments from Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi, whom I’m inclined to believe. However, I couldn’t fault you if you think they are being disingenuous, or outright lying, given today's political climate.
 
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Can’t see new iPads in September same as the iPhones

Maybe November is more likely
That gets the holiday shopping season but loses back to school. Plus, I can't see anyone buying current IPP at all for the next 5 months if they know something new is coming. Lot of money to leave on the table. The first rumors from Ming did specifically say Q3. July/Aug/September … Don't see why it couldn't actually be WITH the phones. It isn't an exciting redesign year like 2017 and the X. There will be a new X, a big X and then the 'low cost' 6.1 … all pretty much looking the same. Maybe the revolutionary, magical, redesigned, bezelless will be the star of the show.
 
I’m going on comments from Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi, whom I’m inclined to believe. However, I couldn’t fault you if you think they are being disingenuous, or outright lying, given today's political climate.
Fair enough. But I know that executives would never come out and say, "Look guys, we're just milking this thing for all it's worth." ;)
 
That gets the holiday shopping season but loses back to school. Plus, I can't see anyone buying current IPP at all for the next 5 months if they know something new is coming. Lot of money to leave on the table. The first rumors from Ming did specifically say Q3. July/Aug/September … Don't see why it couldn't actually be WITH the phones. It isn't an exciting redesign year like 2017 and the X. There will be a new X, a big X and then the 'low cost' 6.1 … all pretty much looking the same. Maybe the revolutionary, magical, redesigned, bezelless will be the star of the show.
Apple doesn't want the iPhone to be overshadowed. It's their primary moneymaker. Unveiling the A12 and simultaneusly unveiling the A12X makes the iPhone look bad. I am getting October or next March.
 
Apple doesn't want the iPhone to be overshadowed. It's their primary moneymaker. Unveiling the A12 and simultaneusly unveiling the A12X makes the iPhone look bad. I am getting October or next March.

I’m beginning to think you & others are right about the ipad pros. Unlike phones, there isn’t a lot of pressure coming from other tablet makers for Apple to update the ipad pros every year. I also don’t think Apple will want to take attention away from the new iphones in September. So i’m also thinking if no ipad pros are announced at wwdc, then it will be either in Oct/Nov or in <gulp!> March. I hope sooner than later cause i really need an ipad pro and would rather nab one of the new radically redesigned bezel-less ipad pros that are being rumored about.
 
Possibly. But could also be the result of Apple’s recently announced plan to crackdown on leakers. Guess we’ll find out for sure Monday.

There is no crackdown by Apple !! leaks will come, if there is any product in the making this time since right now it is not there hence no leaks.
 
I have an Air 2 that is working well, but if the new PROS have a lot of interesting features I will upgrade and let the BF have the air 2.
 
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
 
I’m quoting my own comment from the article about Gurman’s predictions that there will be no new iPad at WWDC:

“I still believe the next gen iPad Pro will show up at this year’s WWDC. Here are my reasons:

1. Well, it’s been a year so it’s about time.
2. If it doesn’t get upgraded now then it’ll be September, and obviously the next gen iPhone will come with A12 chip, but it’s be odd if the iPP that launches alongside the A12-equipped iPhone comes with A11X.
3. Or it might be equipped with A12X if and when it launches alongside the next gen iPhone, but Apple has never skipped the AP gen for the iPad so far (Since the iPad 2, AP’s on the iPad models have been A4->A5X->A6X->A7->A8X->A9X->A10X).”
 
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I went back and forth a lot. 12.9 is great for work and for my planned movie projects. Too unwieldy as a tablet. 10.5 is good as a tablet not so good for work. So I decided that I’d go with the 10.5 as a middle ground.
Buuut, sitting on the couch one evening I realized even the 10.5 is too large for browsing or reading etc. I use my X for most of those things, kindle fire 8.9 is my reader and I can’t see myself reading on a 10.5 inch screen.

So why compromise? I’m going for the largest IPP available and let it do what it’s good at. Will wait for a mini and let that be my reader browser emailer etc.

If the mini goes away, the upcoming surface andromeda mobile device is very intriguing.

The right tool for the job at hand. I can’t repkace my laptop with a 10.5 IPP and won’t even bother trying

I came to pretty much the exact same conclusions and got a 12.9 ipp + mini combo awhile back. They’re both the most optimal devices available for their respective jobs. A middle ground device would just be too much of a compromise for my purposes.
 
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I came to pretty much the exact same conclusions and got a 12.9 ipp + mini combo awhile back. They’re both the most optimal devices available for their respective jobs. A middle ground device would just be too much of a compromise for my purposes.
I’d pay an obscene amount of money for a mini pro with pencil support. Don’t even need edge to edge. Just the same physical chassis size. It’s perfect for true mobile use. Loved the heck out of my mini 2 before I gave it away. Two finger typing is just as convenient as a phone.

And no, a 7+ or an X or even the new x+ does NOt replace a mini. It’s the 4x3 form factor.


There was an inteogieing theory in another thread I’ll have to dig it up. If the 9.7 goes bezelless you have a decide with the physical size of the mini. If the mini goes edge edge and gets a wee bit larger, you get a 9.7 inch screen.

Like I said I’m ok with 7.9. It’s the form factor and size that’s perfect. Your 12.9 and mini combo is fantastic! Exactly what I want except I’d prefer the 12.9 to lose some bezels and get a little smaller. I may cave and get a mini 4 if I see a good deal. In the next 3 months we should know what mini plans are.

My OPINION only is that the old body 9.7 stays at 329 with the home button. iPad SE if you will and at some point we will have a mini sized 9.7 Pro, the 11.5 inch iPad X and MAYBE the larger 12.9 either goes bezelless or, edge to edge for a 14” screen.
 
I’m quoting my own comment from the article about Gurman’s predictions that there will be no new iPad at WWDC:

“I still believe the next gen iPad Pro will show up at this year’s WWDC. Here are my reasons:

1. Well, it’s been a year so it’s about time.
2. If it doesn’t get upgraded now then it’ll be September, and obviously the next gen iPhone will come with A12 chip, but it’s be odd if the iPP that launches alongside the A12-equipped iPhone comes with A11X.
3. Or it might be equipped with A12X if and when it launches alongside the next gen iPhone, but Apple has never skipped the AP gen for the iPad so far (Since the iPad 2, AP’s on the iPad models have been A4->A5X->A6X->A7->A8X->A9X->A10X).”

Or they hold an October event like in previous years and announce the iPad Pro and new Mac's there.
 
I’d pay an obscene amount of money for a mini pro with pencil support. Don’t even need edge to edge. Just the same physical chassis size. It’s perfect for true mobile use. Loved the heck out of my mini 2 before I gave it away. Two finger typing is just as convenient as a phone.

And no, a 7+ or an X or even the new x+ does NOt replace a mini. It’s the 4x3 form factor.


There was an inteogieing theory in another thread I’ll have to dig it up. If the 9.7 goes bezelless you have a decide with the physical size of the mini. If the mini goes edge edge and gets a wee bit larger, you get a 9.7 inch screen.

Like I said I’m ok with 7.9. It’s the form factor and size that’s perfect. Your 12.9 and mini combo is fantastic! Exactly what I want except I’d prefer the 12.9 to lose some bezels and get a little smaller. I may cave and get a mini 4 if I see a good deal. In the next 3 months we should know what mini plans are.

My OPINION only is that the old body 9.7 stays at 329 with the home button. iPad SE if you will and at some point we will have a mini sized 9.7 Pro, the 11.5 inch iPad X and MAYBE the larger 12.9 either goes bezelless or, edge to edge for a 14” screen.

At this point it’s a tough call whether or not to purchase the mini 4. Definitely don’t get it for less than $100 off. And definitely wait til Monday just in case haha.

I’m a bit different in that I prefer bezels. I’m not so concerned with screen size as I think the existing screens are plenty big as they are. Actually, I’d prefer the mini was smaller so that I could comfortably palm it in one hand (in which case, I would want to get rid of the side bezels only). I wouldn’t mind pencil support on the mini, but I’d probably only use it occasionally. I’d definitely love quad speakers though.
 
Whether it’s Sep or Oct as you suggest, all my three points remain valid.
I’m on the phone and it’s too tough to search and quote etc. Take a quick look at the iPad form abiut halfway down. Or click on my name and see what I’ve posted in. There was a thread, based on some rumors and then confirmed that the A11 series was being skipped and going straight to A12/A12X. Other than that, yeah, your points are valid. It’d be iinteresting though if they started putting powerhouse chips in the iPad pros and the less powerful but better battery optimized version in the phones. How much raw power do you really need in a phone anyway? They can already handle anything you throw at it. (I know I know gates’s Comment about never needing more than 640k memory) don’t take it to That extreme but the A12 should be plenty for the phone. A12X in iPad because it’s larger and has a bigger battery.
 
I’m beginning to think you & others are right about the ipad pros. Unlike phones, there isn’t a lot of pressure coming from other tablet makers for Apple to update the ipad pros every year. I also don’t think Apple will want to take attention away from the new iphones in September. So i’m also thinking if no ipad pros are announced at wwdc, then it will be either in Oct/Nov or in <gulp!> March. I hope sooner than later cause i really need an ipad pro and would rather nab one of the new radically redesigned bezel-less ipad pros that are being rumored about.

This is exactly what I think. With the new "education-focused" iPad with Apple pencil support and the current iPad Pro, Apple simply dominates the tablet market at this point. The other tablet makers aren't able to hold a candle to Apple right now. Moreover, it seems to me that Samsung and co. have simply given up the tablet market. I don't think we'll see new iPads till 2019.
 
I would prefer that Apple spend the time to do something more revolutionary with iPads than just refreshing them year after year, although at this point I can only think of a “foldable” iPad ala Westworld style. That would be really nice.

I would be really happy if they updated the iPad mini though, even if it is just a processor refresh. Otherwise I’m happy if they release a new 15” MacBook Pro without the touch bar, or at the very least I want my ESC key back.
 
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After seeing the iPhone X just can't wait to see how gorgeous would it be on an iPad with that kind of screen estate. Just can't wait to see a iPhone X kind of an iPad ! Apple take my money give me the product !!
 
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