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Are you serious? Return a Mac for a PC, without even trying it out for a few days - you've got 14 days to tes it out - use it.

But, when I heard it first I thought, immediately, of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nm5jl7aM08

Read the thread instead of getting all shocked and flusted that someone is disappointed with a mac. The guy just got a new, very expansive machine which seems to have it's permission all stuffed up and needs to have os x reinstalled. A very **** first experience if you ask me, and no he does not need to spend 2 days with a fracked install. So either give the guy some advice or search YouTube for videos that explain how to follow a thread ;)
 
I think I'm just technically inclined because within like 2 days I basically felt like a pro at OSX.

One thing OSX does SOO much better than W7 (I've used windows my whole live.. know it's ins and outs blindfolded, and I have it on bootcamp) is scale for resolution.

at 2560x1440 windows looks barren, the browser snaps to the whole screen and looks ridiculous, it just isn't meant for the Hi-Res displays yet. OSX certainly is and scales perfectly.

I think they are both nice OS's.. having spent the last 6 months on OSX it's certainly very 'care-free' and I think for an AVERAGE computer user, once your past the 'curve', it's better. No virus's, less spyware, self cleaning, easily managed file system ect..

Windows is much more customizable and much more intricate and detail oriented..

both are good OS's.. I switched to mac for the flexibility and also because my phone/laptop/iPad are all apple so uniformity and they all play nice. I paid like 1600 for my iMac refurbed and the monitor alone be it NEC or w/e is still 1k.. so 600 for a computer isn't bad at all really.. factor in the OS, KB, Mouse, and all the software..

let me put it this way..

Monitor - 1000$
OS- ~ 200$
KB/Mouse ~ 150$

so right there your looking at 1350, I paid 250$ for an i5 quad core, 4GB RAM, 5850Mobility Radeon, 1TB HDD and a webcam. That's a hell of a deal if you ask me.
 
I had my first Mac 3 weeks before I started to like it. Of course now I would not go back to a Windows machine if you paid me $5,000.

Judging by your sig, your not poor ;) $5000.... Pocket money... How about $50000.

P.s you should SSD both the iMac and mbp and replace the ODD for some really nice performance gains.
 
Judging by your sig, your not poor ;) $5000.... Pocket money... How about $50000.

P.s you should SSD both the iMac and mbp and replace the ODD for some really nice performance gains.

Hmmm...how long. :)
For life no.

On the PS, the iMac I planned on the SSD, but didn't want to wait 4-6 weeks.
Waiting for the thunderbolt ext to come out.

On my mbp, I'm close to buying one but I'd need one over 250 gb and those are pretty steep in price for me to justify . I really want an SSD for my MBP though.
 
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Hmmm...how long. :)
For life no.

On the PS, the iMac I planned on the SSD, but didn't want to wait 4-6 weeks.
Waiting for the thunderbolt ext to come out.

On my mbp, I'm close to buying one but I'd need one over 250 gb and those are pretty steep in price for me to justify . I really want an SSD for my MBP though.

In regards to the MBP how about getting an optibay, moving your current HD to the ODD and putting the SSD in the HDD slot. Or do you use the dvd drive? I chucked mine as I have an external. That way you do not need a big SSD for the os
 
Not sure why you can't get it to update the software, give AppleCare a cal as you have 90 days free help
 
Also do a back up via time machine and try a clean install from the original system disc. It could also be your Internet set up being at fault. Check it's ok by testing it to see if its getting through ok.
 
Sorry for the multiple messages, Tapalink app keeps deleting my posted messages!
 
And check your firewall settings and make sure it is set to not answer pings and only accept incoming from known sites
 
And your point about windows seven, yes it is a very good operating system. Yes it is boot camped on my iMac. No I'll not be moving back to pc's anytime soon. I like W7, I like Snow Leopard a lot more.

That's fair play, I wouldn't ask for any more, to each his own etc. I can't even tell you why I don't like OS X as much as W7, it's just one of those things that you can't put your finger on. I suppose it's like driving an Audi or a BMW, both are excellent cars and I expect every one will have their favourite but find it hard to quantify the reason why. I want to see what happen with the Mini as that would be my preferred option given a decent upgrade.
 
OK I was able to download updates. I unplugged from my router, and plugged the imac directly into the cable modem. Just to see if that made a difference, and it did. :D I'm gonna have to plug the imac into the wireless router again, because well I need too. I didn't put the router installation setup disc onto the imac. Just plugged it into the router. Do you think that was the problem? I do want to stress how thankful I am to the people on this board.
 
at 2560x1440 windows looks barren, the browser snaps to the whole screen and looks ridiculous, it just isn't meant for the Hi-Res displays yet.

I think you have highlighted one of the reasons I'm not overly sold on OS X. If I'm paying for 27" of real estate then I want the screen filled not just a window in the centre etc. One of the first things I installed on my iMac was RightZoom and I have FF set to 120% too. I wear spectacles and hate squinting at small fonts.
 
OK I was able to download updates. I unplugged from my router, and plugged the imac directly into the cable modem. Just to see if that made a difference, and it did. :D I'm gonna have to plug the imac into the wireless router again, because well I need too. I didn't put the router installation setup disc onto the imac. Just plugged it into the router. Do you think that was the problem? I do want to stress how thankful I am to the people on this board.

Your welcome... Enjoy!
 
It seems fine to me if he posts a thread. He bought an iMac. He doesn't like it. He wants to know if he can return it. Of course, the answer is probably easily available online at the Apple site, but maybe he wanted confirmation from people who had actually gone through the process.

I'm still curious about the gap here between what he wanted and what he got.

Mr OP are you concerned that you spent too much money ? Maybe a less expensive iMac would suit your needs ? Or was it just the software update causing you to have doubts?

Dude, a machine in a store has been fiddled with by every conceivable moron passing through. Especially Macs; because they look so yummy people just have to touch them and muck about until something gives.

I have a less than 50% success rate with any computer in any store. The only way to really know what's up, is to reboot the machine and zap the p-ram (option-command-p-r). I doubt the sales-assistants would let you, though.

Just sayin'...

Apple store allows you to plug in flash drives and do whatever you want. (I have brought flash drives to the Apple store and asked, they said no problem.)
All they do is reboot when you're done.

I've owned 2 MacBooks Pro (one 2009 and another 2010).
I've sold the first one and decided to go back do PC.
Some months later I've sold the PC and bought blah, blah, blah like Macs.

Nice post. Very constuctive and professional.
 
No. You have to return it to Apple. Call them and they will tell you to pack it up/send you a box to send it. Once they receive the machine, they will credit your card.

No you don't. Ive bought many things on apple.com and later returned it in Store.

Also if you want your pc again id suggest returning the imac and you can build yourself a much faster PC for $2000-$2300 including a nice IPS display. $1000-$1200 for a nice build and $1000 for a ips display.
 
let me put it this way..

Monitor - 1000$
OS- ~ 200$
KB/Mouse ~ 150$

so right there your looking at 1350, I paid 250$ for an i5 quad core, 4GB RAM, 5850Mobility Radeon, 1TB HDD and a webcam. That's a hell of a deal if you ask me.

Thats only if you really need/want a huge 27" ips display.

I have 2 23" monitors (1 ips, 1 tft), 27" for me is too big. + 2500k SB build, 8 gb ram, HD 6950 2 gb card, Crucial C300 128 gb SSD, 1 TB Spinpoint; etc. Cost me $1600.

And my pc will outperform any imac out there for cheaper than the most expensive imac.
 
Buyer's Joy?

I have been a Win guy for almost forever. Windows has paid me well, as has Unix. Mac is the only thing I have never worked on professionally. Few years back my wife had a 13" MB. Nice little thing, got hot as a pistol sitting on my lap, gave it to my son. Few years go by and I get the coding urge. Want to do iPhone apps. Have Windows OS of most flavors and Fedora at home. Only can do iPhone programming on a Mac. My Win box is getting long of tooth (01/2004), wife's laptop too. No letters left on her keyboard. She has a netbook, I have a netbook, but we want something to do "bidnes" on. "Ah, hah", says I. Let us look at Apple offerings. I had not so much as hit the front page that I saw the iMac. Fell in love. Went to the local independent Apple store, bought lady wife a new 21.5" I3 and I ordered a new 27". Three days later, the new iMac comes out. After much fretting and manly whining to the store owner, they cancel my old and obsolete iMac and order me a brand new one. Only thing I didn't get was the 2gb graphics upgrade. Didn't even see it as an option until after mine had been shipped. Did not (could not) wait the extra time for a SSD.

I get mine in last Friday (5/13/2011) and have not been off of it yet. I worked today, it was all I could think of was to get back here.

I love it all. Keyboard, track pad, stupid crazy little Magic Mouse, the 27" monitor is FREAKIN awesome!

My old Win box (XP) was an XPS Gen 2. Loved it 3ghz, 2 gb ram, 250 gb HD. Great little box in its day and, honestly, not all that bad today. BUT I have my iMac.
3.4 GHZ i7 Quad, 8GB RAM (Yes, I know, should have done diy mem) 1 TB HD, 6970M 1GB.

I have LOTS of questions. Like I am importing my iTunes library from network shared drive (iTunes is 251GB) and after a day and a half, I have most of it down loaded and have used up >500 gb of space on my iMac HD. Why?

I'll be back and probably often.

TIA

Skiph
:apple:32GB iPhone 4, :apple:5 year old iPod classic before there was a classic, :apple:shuffle. Not the old one but the first gen stamp sized one.
Kindle (what the hey - wife has an iPad 16GB wifi - do I get credit for being in the same house?
:apple: oh, and my iMac.
Sorry Edgar, "You can have my Mac when you pry it from my cold dead fingers".
 
Dude, a machine in a store has been fiddled with by every conceivable moron passing through. Especially Macs; because they look so yummy people just have to touch them and muck about until something gives.

I have a less than 50% success rate with any computer in any store. The only way to really know what's up, is to reboot the machine and zap the p-ram (option-command-p-r). I doubt the sales-assistants would let you, though.

Just sayin'...

I'm not sure there's *that* much that could have been done to the machine after just a few days. My experiences have been that the machines in Apple stores are kept pretty clean, except for a lot of cam pics in the photos folder.

I would not be surprised if they routinely zap the pram and all that anyway. It's in Apple's best interest to keep the machines functioning as strong as possible - they don't show it off to potential $2k customers and say "oh, don't worry, it'll be twice as fast after you get it home on your own, we just let these go to pot".
 
I have been a Win guy for almost forever. Windows has paid me well, as has Unix. Mac is the only thing I have never worked on professionally. Few years back my wife had a 13" MB. Nice little thing, got hot as a pistol sitting on my lap, gave it to my son. Few years go by and I get the coding urge. Want to do iPhone apps. Have Windows OS of most flavors and Fedora at home. Only can do iPhone programming on a Mac. My Win box is getting long of tooth (01/2004), wife's laptop too. No letters left on her keyboard. She has a netbook, I have a netbook, but we want something to do "bidnes" on. "Ah, hah", says I. Let us look at Apple offerings. I had not so much as hit the front page that I saw the iMac. Fell in love. Went to the local independent Apple store, bought lady wife a new 21.5" I3 and I ordered a new 27". Three days later, the new iMac comes out. After much fretting and manly whining to the store owner, they cancel my old and obsolete iMac and order me a brand new one. Only thing I didn't get was the 2gb graphics upgrade. Didn't even see it as an option until after mine had been shipped. Did not (could not) wait the extra time for a SSD.

I get mine in last Friday (5/13/2011) and have not been off of it yet. I worked today, it was all I could think of was to get back here.

I love it all. Keyboard, track pad, stupid crazy little Magic Mouse, the 27" monitor is FREAKIN awesome!

My old Win box (XP) was an XPS Gen 2. Loved it 3ghz, 2 gb ram, 250 gb HD. Great little box in its day and, honestly, not all that bad today. BUT I have my iMac.
3.4 GHZ i7 Quad, 8GB RAM (Yes, I know, should have done diy mem) 1 TB HD, 6970M 1GB.

I have LOTS of questions. Like I am importing my iTunes library from network shared drive (iTunes is 251GB) and after a day and a half, I have most of it down loaded and have used up >500 gb of space on my iMac HD. Why?

I'll be back and probably often.

TIA

Skiph
:apple:32GB iPhone 4, :apple:5 year old iPod classic before there was a classic, :apple:shuffle. Not the old one but the first gen stamp sized one.
Kindle (what the hey - wife has an iPad 16GB wifi - do I get credit for being in the same house?
:apple: oh, and my iMac.
Sorry Edgar, "You can have my Mac when you pry it from my cold dead fingers".

lol How much did Apple pay you to write that? ;)
 
I think you have highlighted one of the reasons I'm not overly sold on OS X. If I'm paying for 27" of real estate then I want the screen filled not just a window in the centre etc. One of the first things I installed on my iMac was RightZoom and I have FF set to 120% too. I wear spectacles and hate squinting at small fonts.

Maximizing the window would be the exact opposite of taking advantage of all 27" of real estate. For example, websites aren't designed to be viewed horizontally so you can get the entire website with a window about 40% the width of the screen. You could place the Safari window all the way to the left. Then the right 60% could be utilized by using the top 1/3 for iTunes, middle 1/3 for Mail, and the lower 1/3 with a chat program.
 
Thats only if you really need/want a huge 27" ips display.

I have 2 23" monitors (1 ips, 1 tft), 27" for me is too big. + 2500k SB build, 8 gb ram, HD 6950 2 gb card, Crucial C300 128 gb SSD, 1 TB Spinpoint; etc. Cost me $1600.

And my pc will outperform any imac out there for cheaper than the most expensive imac.

Oh no ... again ??? :confused:
Just play the tunes all over again ... and again ... and again .. and again ... and again ...
 
OK I was able to download updates. I unplugged from my router, and plugged the imac directly into the cable modem. Just to see if that made a difference, and it did. :D I'm gonna have to plug the imac into the wireless router again, because well I need too. I didn't put the router installation setup disc onto the imac. Just plugged it into the router. Do you think that was the problem? I do want to stress how thankful I am to the people on this board.

Great to hear that you are making progress with the problem!

I wouldn't have thought you'd need any kind of router installation setup. I suppose that could be the problem. You might want to start a new thread somewhere (in the iMac or maybe software forum) to ask more specific questions.

I think you are losing your thread to people with lots of time on their hands and plenty of rusty old axes to grind.
 
Oh no ... again ??? :confused:
Just play the tunes all over again ... and again ... and again .. and again ... and again ...

Just replying to gdeputy's post about "the imac is a bargain" argument.

I still love my mbp. Apple def. makes the best laptops on the market. Desktops? def. not IMHO.
 
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