Images of Alleged iPhone 15 USB-C Connector Parts Leak Online

[tripsync]

It's entirely possible that Apple was going to put a fiber-optic port on the bottom of the phone, or maybe a serial port, or ethernet. There is no point on speculating things without evidence

You're on MacRumors. If there is no point on speculating things without evidence, you're on the wrong forum.

Regardless, I recall Jony Ive mentioning a portless future in one of the product introduction videos. More evidence than your ridiculous ethernet port "possibility".

 

[tripsync]

It isn't more environmentally friendly to stick to lightning. Switching the port makes future products more environmentally friendly. This now means that accessory makers no longer need to bother with both lightning and USB-C compatibility. Anything that's already produced isn't going to just disappear now... Nevermind that everything else Apple does already has USB-C.

Not if your original plan was to go portless.

Making a phone go USB-C unnecessarily produces billions of extra USB-C cables that won't be needed for a portless phone. Some of those USB-C cables will be used, but more likely most will end up in ewaste. This is even more likely because USB-C is still evolving (some have 2.0 speeds, some can only charge up to 60W, most today charge at 100W, new cables needed for 240W)

 

[tripsync]

Surely not having to buy new plugs for phones is a good thing

Then wait for a portless phone and make one last switch instead of switching to USB-C and then switching to wireless.

 

[Appleandy]

Is everyone here aware we're talking about the eco-friendlyness of 1 wire when Apple are using child labour to rip countries apart for Cobalt?😂😂😂😂

 

[tripsync]

I’d argue that making millions upon millions of phones every quarter using precious metals and the most intense distribution channels to get iPhones worldwide is a lot worse changing all their models to have the same cable.

I can’t tell if you were being serious or not so I’ll stop there.

I can't tell what your argument is.

EU specifically states mandating USB-C is environmentally friendly. You're simply arguing against EU.

 

[SactoGuy18]

I still wonder why didn't just Apple support USB 3.2 Gen 1x1 spec (5 gigabits per second maximum) with up to 35 watts maximum initial charging speed on the iPhone 15/iPhone 15 Plus and USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (20 gigabits per second maximum) with up to 45 watts maximum initial charging speed for the iPhone 15 Pro/iPhone 15 Pro Max models?

 

[tripsync]

I don’t think Steve meant they’d get rid of macOS in 20 years either.

Actually, contextually, Steve absolutely meant to get rid of OS X 20 years later. This was during the OS 9 to OS X transition. OS 9 even got a grave where Steve put a box of OS 9 into it.

Steve absolutely did not mean "we'll drop the OS X name in 20 years".

 

[WarmWinterHat]

You're on MacRumors. If there is no point on speculating things without evidence, you're on the wrong forum.

Regardless, I recall Jony Ive mentioning a portless future in one of the product introduction videos. More evidence than your ridiculous ethernet port "possibility".

Johhny Ive got the virtual boot, and the Mac line is worlds better because of it. I don't expect Apple to pay much attention to his thoughts on future products. He had his time and place at Apple, and that time and place is in the past.

I like speculation as much as the next person, but I like it based on evidence.

 

[tripsync]

I mean… in a certain context he came up a year short since OS 11 was in 2020 and we’re staring down the release of OS 14 in a month or two. 😉

The name of the OS was not what Steve meant when he said 20 years. 😉

 

[tripsync]

No, but Apple specifically said they would not change the lightning port in the next 10 years in response to MFI accessory makers (and consumers) being reluctant to invest in a technology that was going to be deprecated quickly after making sizable investments in the iPod 30-pin connector. Could you imagine the uproar if Apple had introduced lightning and then dumped it in the very next models when USB-C came out?

I'm not arguing lightning should be cut short.

 

[JapanApple]

You're on MacRumors. If there is no point on speculating things without evidence, you're on the wrong forum.

Regardless, I recall Jony Ive mentioning a portless future in one of the product introduction videos. More evidence than your ridiculous ethernet port "possibility".

The factor matter is I’m in Apple stock holder I own stock in the company. Whatever the outcome is the successful my dividends go up. So either way I don’t lose again. This USB-C BS and the mandate that proposed it to happen still benefits me and all others who own Apple shares. Apple is a company that wants to make money and those are saying that Apple could not pay off the regulators in the EU it’s just a crock of crap. They are big enough they can say we can do whatever, but the bottom line is what the value of the stock is that’s should care about. So in the midst of all this I’m laughing because I’m seeing people argue for against whatever I don’t even know if these people are even own Apple products. but those are on stock are laughing all the way to the bank. if you wanna only Apple product fine live with it if you don’t like it go to android. Just don’t hang around somewhere crying about things that you can’t control.

 

[tripsync]

If and when Apple switches to a portless phone; the USB-C cable for your phone will still work with all your other devices, because it's a (near) universal standard.

Except most would ewaste it.

Especially when USB-C is confusing for many users because it isn't properly labeled. You have 2.0 cables, 3.0 cables, 3.1 cables, 4.0 cables, 60W, 100W, 240W cables, displayport over usb-c, etc...most customers aren't going to know which one and if one cable doesn't do what they think it should do, it goes to ewaste.

FYI, majority of Apple USB-C cables that they've sold up to this point have been 2.0 cables. Imagine connecting that to an iPhone 15 Pro and not getting fast transfer speeds. They're throwing that away most likely.

How would Apple continuing to make more cables that will become obsolete as soon as they drop the lightning port a more environmentally friendly solution? Have you thought this through?

Have you thought this through? Apple could easily eliminate including the lightning cable from the box because most customers already have lightning cables. Now with USB-C, they must include it because most iPhone customers will need one for the next 10 years.

 

[tripsync]

The part people will be unhappy with is the removal of a port, regardless of which port it is. People can already go magsafe only if they want. Forcing Magsafe only is a downgrade in charging options. The switch to USB-C isn't the dumb part here, the going port-less part is.

Forcing wireless is inevitable, regardless of people being unhappy.

But at least USB-C cables will still have value if Apple goes port-less, as they work with everything else, unlike lightning.

Except most would ewaste it.

Especially when USB-C is confusing for many users because it isn't properly labeled. You have 2.0 cables, 3.0 cables, 3.1 cables, 4.0 cables, 60W, 100W, 240W cables, displayport over usb-c, etc...most customers aren't going to know which one and if one cable doesn't do what they think it should do, it goes to ewaste.

So not only are you throwing away lightning, but you're throwing away USB-C cables too when iPhones go portless.

Better to wait on lighting a few more years than switching to USB-C temporarily before going portless.

 

[paradox00]

Not if your original plan was to go portless.

Making a phone go USB-C unnecessarily produces billions of extra USB-C cables that won't be needed for a portless phone. Some of those USB-C cables will be used, but more likely most will end up in ewaste. This is even more likely because USB-C is still evolving (some have 2.0 speeds, some can only charge up to 60W, most today charge at 100W, new cables needed for 240W)

Right now every Android user switching to iPhone has to buy lightning cables (or live with the 1 that came with the iPhone). Every year Apple doesn't make this change creates more ewaste because it doesn't use a universal standard... i'm not sure how you can make the argument you're making while ignoring this one.

Meanwhile plenty of iPhone users already have USB-C cables because that's what iPads, Macs, and other electronics (i.e., Nintendo Switch) are already using. So many won't need to buy new cables to adjust to the change.

The USB protocol continues to evolve, but the port is still the same. 240W will mostly be used with laptops, and will often replace a proprietary plug and power brick. This leads to less ewaste and doesn't obsolete lesser specced USB-C cables for other/existing uses.

I do wish that not every device came with a cable, because that does add waste, but that's not the fault of USB-C and sticking with lightning doesn't address it.

 

[tripsync]

Johhny Ive got the virtual boot, and the Mac line is worlds better because of it. I don't expect Apple to pay much attention to his thoughts on future products.

He has his time and place at Apple, and that time and place is in the past.

"I don't want to believe this piece of evidence"

Clearly Jony is stating Apple's intention. That is the evidence which goes against your "There is no point on speculating things without evidence"

 

[tripsync]

Right now every Android user switching to iPhone has to buy lightning cables (or live with the 1 that came with the iPhone).

Well no, plenty of Android users can use their wireless pad.

Every year Apple doesn't make this change creates more ewaste because it doesn't use a universal standard... i'm not sure how you can make the argument you're making while ignoring this one.

Apple can simply stop including the cable since most returning customers have lightning cables and Android switchers can use wireless. USB-C exclusive switchers is a minority group and they can manually buy the lightning cable which would last until the portless phone comes out.

Meanwhile plenty of iPhone users already have USB-C cables because that's what iPads, Macs, and other electronics (i.e., Nintendo Switch) are already using. So many won't need to buy new cables to adjust to the change.

Doesn't matter when Apple feels compelled to include a USB-C cable into every iPhone box instead of eliminating it if it was still lightning. That's a

The USB protocol continues to evolve, but the port is still the same. 240W will mostly be used with laptops, and will often replace a proprietary plug and power brick. This leads to less ewaste and doesn't obsolete lesser specced USB-C cables for other/existing uses.

Navigating the complexity of assigning different USB-C cables to different devices will cause users to throw out the lesser capable USB-C cables to avoid the confusion in the future.

Meanwhile lightning never really evolved and every MFi cable worked as it should except for the USB-A to USB-C switch. As long as you had a lightning device, you kept your lightning cables.

I do wish that not every device came with a cable, because that does add waste, but that's not the fault of USB-C and sticking with lightning doesn't address it.

It's actually the fault of EU for forcing the switch. Apple could have easily removed the cable but now they cannot.

 

[BC2009]

The notion that Apple is going to limit the charging speeds unless your charger/cable is MFI certified is ridiculous. They do not do this on MacBook or on iPad. You can use any cable or any charging brick that has the appropriate PD specifications and it just works.

Even the Apple Watch Series 7/8/Ultra with fast-charging puck does not require a special charging brick that is MFI certified -- anything supporting PD at the required wattage will work.

That said, lightning has been fine. I cannot see why people are so excited over the charging port on the phone. I think the real problem is on the other end -- the supply side. I've been using USB-C to lightning cables for a while because the supply-side of the cable more often than not these days is USB-C. If the EU was going to outlaw anything, it should have been USB-A on either end of a cable. That standard has long since outlived its reason for existence. I have to purchase multi-port charging bricks with at least one (if not two) USB-A ports. These are pricier and a pain when it comes power distribution between ports (usually when you hook something to the USB-A it limits the power on the adjacent USB-C port). At least the Lightning to USB-C cable comes wit the Apple device and you don't have to spend extra for it.

But... whatever. Apple did say that Lightning was the connector for the next 10 years when they introduced it in Fall of 2012 on the iPhone 5. So we have had a solid 10 years of not having to replace our accessories that all worked with Lightning.

I am more excited for the speed improvements to the iPhone 15 and the periscope camera. I doubt I will buy a new iPhone this year since I have the 14 Pro Max -- they would really have to come out with something amazing to get me to do that.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

It's actually the fault of EU for forcing the switch. Apple could have easily removed the cable but now they cannot.

Well in that case, thank you EU. Unlike everyone here, I don't have a ton of USB-C cables laying around because I don't own a bunch of tech and gadgets and I don't use wireless chargers.

I think a phone with no cables included is just a bad idea, all around. The charging brick I can kinda understand, but I'm not even a fan of that.

 

[paradox00]

Forcing wireless is inevitable, regardless of people being unhappy.



Except most would ewaste it.

Especially when USB-C is confusing for many users because it isn't properly labeled. You have 2.0 cables, 3.0 cables, 3.1 cables, 4.0 cables, 60W, 100W, 240W cables, displayport over usb-c, etc...most customers aren't going to know which one and if one cable doesn't do what they think it should do, it goes to ewaste.

So not only are you throwing away lightning, but you're throwing away USB-C cables too when iPhones go portless.

Better to wait on lighting a few more years than switching to USB-C temporarily before going portless.

I do agree with you that USB standards are confusing and should be clarified and better labelled, but that's neither here nor there for this discussion. Considering that Lighting sits at the bottom of the USB-C performance range, any existing USB-C cable a person has should work as well with an iPhone as Lightning does; so why would they throw them out if they want a cable to charge their phone?

"Forcing wireless is inevitable" No it's not. That's just a choice that Apple will or will not make. If they do make it, they should wait until the Qi2 standard is ready. That will bring magsafe-like charging to all devices, but may also obsolete magsafe in the process. The timing of Qi2 has nothing to do with USB-C though.

If you think the iPhone is going portless in the near future, the best thing you could do is end lightning as soon as possible and replace it with something that will still be usable after the phone goes portless. Otherwise you're creating a cable that will only be useful for the current device, and then it becomes waste. This should be obvious. I have no idea why it isn't obvious to you.

 

[mebehere]

Is no one talking about the colors?

 

[paradox00]

It's actually the fault of EU for forcing the switch. Apple could have easily removed the cable but now they cannot.

Apple has been shipping lightning cables for a decade. That state of Apple's current packaging is not the EUs fault. I'm done with this nonsense.

 

[thebeans]

Love Lightning. Hate to see it go. All this buzz about usb-c and couldn’t care less.

But then again, I still use 5w charging and don’t care about data transfer speed.

Oh man. This is exactly me. Love the crisp “click” of lightning. Always use the small charge brick because fast charging just makes the phone hotter. I have never transferred any data from my phone via cable.

 

[Fred Zed]

A closer look at the iPhone 15's USB-C connectors. It's the real deal.

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I wish they'd put that rubber surround around the port connector to prevent scratches on the phone frame. Like Samsung do on their devices. A rubber surround the USB C connector.

 

[maerz001]

Apple produces extra billions of USB-C cables and then goes portless means billions of USB-C cables were unnecessarily produced.

Far better to just stick with lightning and then go portless since most Apple customers have a surplus of lightning.



Qi also works. Qi is cheap.

Your argument is circulating around the portless iphone.
If and when this will happen is on apples part.

Up to now all iphone sold come with a cable in the box. doesn’t make a difference to the environment if this one is usbc or lightning. But as soon as all mobile devices use one cable it makes a difference. Thats why EU forces companies.

Magsafe would be the next environmental downfall as no other company is using it

 

[SFjohn]

given all the environmental stuff they love to tout, I would not be surprised to see a whole part of September's keynote talking about their recycling program for Lightning cables specifically…lol

I'm curious though—what are your complaints about USB-C? I know there's the issue of the connection becoming less sturdy over time, just wondering if you have any other grievances with it.

I find it to be more effort to plug in, lightening is as simple and easy as it gets. Plus lightening is smaller, slimmer. If phones get slimmer then USB-C could create a bump on the bottom of the phone.