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Jayson A

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Update:

Here's a comparison of the animation on my iPhone 7 Plus vs what it SHOULD look like according to iPhone 6s and older
http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd

Please check this out and let me know what you think!
 

gtg465x

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I did all the hard work so you don't have to. Check out my comparisons below.

Here's 10.1 Beta 2 on iPhone 7 Plus: http://imgur.com/blkB14r

Here's 10.0.2 on iPhone 7: http://imgur.com/22QxFTy

Here's 10.0.2 on iPhone 6: http://imgur.com/jfF1eue

By the way, it takes the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus 6 frames longer to finish the animation than the iPhone 6. This is because the wallpaper lags behind.

The iPhone 6 transition is steady and smooth the whole way through, whereas the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus both hiccup halfway through the animation AND the wallpaper is static for the first half of the animation (which is also a bug).

To me Beta 2 looks better from these videos. The animation still goes slower at first and the wallpaper doesn't move at first, but the transition from slow animation to fast animation seems to be smoother, whereas there is a noticeable pause between the slow and fast parts of the animation on 10.0.2.
 

Chris in DC

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From 10.0.2 to B2 and animations are much improved on my 7+ but from time to time there is still a weird stutter or movement when performing certain actions especially activating the app switcher
I've noticed that sometimes when switching apps it will momentarily go to the home screen before displaying the switcher. But generally only the first time after not using the switcher for a while. Also noticed this with 10.0.2.
 

Mlrollin91

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Update:

Here's a comparison of the animation on my iPhone 7 Plus vs what it SHOULD look like according to iPhone 6s and older
http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd

Please check this out and let me know what you think!

Or, just or. The animation is different on the iPhone 7 vs. previous models. It clear that there is more background wallpaper animation between the two videos. So you cannot definitively say one is correct and one is wrong. There is no way to prove that. Maybe the animations on the 7 are different because it can handle the additional animations because of the increased processor/GPU and now just needs to be fine tuned.
 

Mlrollin91

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I think the animation going slow and the wallpaper not moving for the first third of the animation is intended behavior as described by mrblog47 a couple pages back.

I've been reading about the iPhone 7 animations for a while now and I haven't seen anyone say this yet:

Laggy animations just bug me also so it was the first thing I noticed with the new phone.
When you press the home button on the iPhone 7, the response time between you pressing the button and the animation beginning is almost instantaneous. This was never the case before and actually makes the iPhone 7 faster to use than the 6s.
Pressing the home button on the 6s will have a different response. The OS waits for a second click to see which animation it should load - the home screen or the multitasking screen.
The 7 responds instantly and if it detects a second press in time (a double click), the animation is interrupted and the app switcher animation is called up.
So TLDR: the animation is deliberately slow at the start in order to allow time for the animation to change and respond to a double click rather than a single press.
I could be wrong, this is just how it seems to me. Apple want the iPhone 7 animation to happen instantly so people know that they've successfully registered a click of the home button. Any waiting time between you clicking and something happening could have potentially caused people be annoyed with the new home button because if there were ever times where the haptic feedback was not quite obvious enough or a user couldn't feel it, (like when the phone is laying flat on a desk), it would be annoying to wait as long as the iPhone 6s to see if you had indeed registered a click of the home button.

This makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the information.
 

Jayson A

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I think the animation going slow and the wallpaper not moving for the first third of the animation is intended behavior as described by mrblog47 a couple pages back.

Why would that be intended? Why dint the animations match when you quickly close an app vs having it open for a few seconds?
 

Jayson A

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Did you read what mrblog47 posted? It actually makes a lot of sense.

No it doesn't. There's no reason that the iPhone 7 should be different than the iPhone 6s with the close animation.

The 6s responds to double clicks just fine. Why is the 7 different?

If you say it's due to a software button vs a hardware button, that's false too because using the assistive touch button on the 6 shows the correct animation still.
 

Mlrollin91

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No it doesn't. There's no reason that the iPhone 7 should be different than the iPhone 6s with the close animation.

Yes it does:

"Pressing the home button on the 6s will have a different response. The OS waits for a second click to see which animation it should load - the home screen or the multitasking screen.
The 7 responds instantly and if it detects a second press in time (a double click), the animation is interrupted and the app switcher animation is called up."

Not having an actual button changes things. Its a valid reason. It has different animations.

Based on what is quoted means there is lag after hitting the button, but the animation itself is faster. iPhone 7, there is less lag, but a slower animation + a different wallpaper animation.
 

Jayson A

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Yes it does:

"Pressing the home button on the 6s will have a different response. The OS waits for a second click to see which animation it should load - the home screen or the multitasking screen.
The 7 responds instantly and if it detects a second press in time (a double click), the animation is interrupted and the app switcher animation is called up."

Not having an actual button changes things. Its a valid reason. It has different animations.

Based on what is quoted means there is lag after hitting the button, but the animation itself is faster. iPhone 7, there is less lag, but a slower animation + a different wallpaper animation.

The 6s responds to double clicks just fine. Why is the 7 different?

If you say it's due to a software button vs a hardware button, that's false too because using the assistive touchbutton on the 6 shows the correct animation still.
 

Mlrollin91

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The 6s responds to double clicks just fine. Why is the 7 different?

If you say it's due to a software button vs a hardware button, that's false too because using the assistive touchbutton on the 6 shows the correct animation still.

Face it. The animations are different between the iPhone 7/7Plus and all past iOS devices. Even my iPad Air 2 has different animations than my iPhone 7Plus. So they cannot be compared because the animation itself is different. So its not that the iPhone 7 is slower, its just different and has a longer animation because of the additional wallpaper animation that is not present on previous devices.

There are only 2 reasons why the animation would be different. The home button, or the more powerful GPU allows for more animations. Because the animations are different their speed will never be the same. Until Apple intentionally changes the animations back this is the way it will be. I no longer think its a bug. Your videos make it very clear they are different from start to end.
 

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Whoever said they wouldn't mind doing a side-by-side video, could you please attempt one? It'd be really interesting to see an iPhone 6s or 6 running iOS 10.1 beta 2 and an iPhone 7 running the same OS.
 

Mlrollin91

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Whoever said they wouldn't mind doing a side-by-side video, could you please attempt one? It'd be really interesting to see an iPhone 6s or 6 running iOS 10.1 beta 2 and an iPhone 7 running the same OS.

Here is a side by side slowed down:

"Here's a comparison of the animation on my iPhone 7 Plus vs what it SHOULD look like according to iPhone 6s and older
http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd" - Jayson A

I don't think they are one the same frame tho as the 6s is seconds faster and we know its not that much faster. But you can clearly tell the difference in animations showing its not a bug. They are just different.
 

Jayson A

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Face it. The animations are different between the iPhone 7/7Plus and all past iOS devices. Even my iPad Air 2 has different animations than my iPhone 7Plus. So they cannot be compared because the animation itself is different. So its not that the iPhone 7 is slower, its just different and has a longer animation because of the additional wallpaper animation that is not present on previous devices.

There are only 2 reasons why the animation would be different. The home button, or the more powerful GPU allows for more animations. Because the animations are different their speed will never be the same. Until Apple intentionally changes the animations back this is the way it will be. I no longer think its a bug. Your videos make it very clear they are different from start to end.

You do realize that the wallpaper animates on both devices right? The iPhone 7's wallpaper doesn't move for the first 6 or 7 frames and the icons aren't flying in yet, then it quickly speeds up. This behavior is inconsistent across the different iOS devices.

If Apple ends up fixing this, what will you say then? It was intended until Apple changed it?

It's definitely a bug. The phone is not supposed to do that.

It looks sloppy and it's off-putting. Nothing about it makes my iPhone a joy to use.

It's funny though, every other animation is exactly the same.

By the way, if you set your double click speed to something slower, the app switcher doesn't glitch anymore. Just saying...
 

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Here is a side by side slowed down:

"Here's a comparison of the animation on my iPhone 7 Plus vs what it SHOULD look like according to iPhone 6s and older
http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd" - Jayson A

I don't think they are one the same frame tho as the 6s is seconds faster and we know its not that much faster. But you can clearly tell the difference in animations showing its not a bug. They are just different.
Ah. Missed that post. Thanks. The animations are certainly different but it looks to me, that, only just, the 7 speeds up towards the end and is actually a tad faster?

Are we thinking this is intentional?
 

Mlrollin91

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You do realize that the wallpaper animates on both devices right?

I will stop you right there. Watch your own videos. The iPhone 7 wallpaper zooms in more at the end than the iPhone 6s. The video shows that the starting wallpaper for the iPhone 7 is more zoomed out than the starting wallpaper for the 6s. I watched the video 50+ times and went as close to frame by frame as possible. The zooming of the iPhone 7 is far greater.
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Ah. Missed that post. Thanks. The animations are certainly different but it looks to me, that, only just, the 7 speeds up towards the end and is actually a tad faster?

Are we thinking this is intentional?

I believe it is intentional. The aspect of the wallpaper is different.
 

Jayson A

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Ah. Missed that post. Thanks. The animations are certainly different but it looks to me, that, only just, the 7 speeds up towards the end and is actually a tad faster?

Are we thinking this is intentional?

It's actually not faster. It's slower in the beginning, then it tries to make up for being slow by speeding up toward the end, but he wallpaper didn't get the memo and lags behind by 6 frames.

The iPhone 7 takes 29 frames from start to finish, by the iPhone 6 takes only 23.

If Apple fixes this... you'll all have to eat your words.

Also, there is no reason why the iPhone 6s can't perform the same animation as the 7... so why would they intentionally make these 2 phones different in only ONE spot?
 
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Hm. So I realised I had my Click Speed set to Slow. I changed it back to Default and it feels so fast!

You can also close an app IMMEDIATELY as soon as you tap an app. With it set as Slow, you can't do that.

EDIT: Can someone do a comparison with the animations. One with click speed as Default and one as Slow? I didn't think changing that would make such a difference.
 

richard6r

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You're talking about a complete revamp and mapping a hardware button back to a software one
Hardware=/=Software.

It's not the same and would definitely account for the difference. It's not a bug or a glitch but a side effect of the new button. Whether they can fix it who knows. I stand by what I said in that it's just a thing that had to be accounted for when pressing the button. From my understanding the hardware version CAN and easily will predict a double tap. There's no mistaking a double tap. Move over to the iPhone 7- did my user actually want to open the app switcher... before I complete my animation I will pause and for MILLISECONDS and then continue.

It makes 100% sense and it's logical.
 
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Mlrollin91

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It's actually not faster. It's slower in the beginning, then it tries to make up for being slow by speeding up toward the end, but he wallpaper didn't get the memo and lags behind by 6 frames.

The iPhone 7 takes 29 frames from start to finish, by the iPhone 6 takes only 23.

But the iPhone 7 takes more frames because its actually moving more frames. The wallpaper extends farther than the iPhone 6s wallpaper does. Once Calendar icon returns to normal, the iPhone 7 wallpaper is still moving, but on the 6s side its not. The wallpaper animation is 100% different.
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You're talking about a complete revamp and mapping a hardware button back to a software one
Hardware=/=Software.

It's not the same and would definitely account for the difference. It's not a bug or a glitch but a side effect of the new button. Whether they can fix it who knows. I stand by what I said in that it's just a thing that had to be accounted for when pressing the button. From my understanding the hardware version CAN and easily will predict a double tap. There's no mistaking a double tap. Move over to the iPhone 7- did my user actually want to open the app switcher... before I complete my animation I will pause and for MILLISECONDS and then continue.

It makes 100% sense and it's logical.

Exactly. Its a completely different device with respect to hardware. All devices before the iPhone 7 work one way and the iPhone 7/7Plus have their own animation.
 

Jayson A

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You're talking about a complete revamp and mapping a hardware button back to a software one
Hardware=/=Software.

It's not the same and would definitely account for the difference. It's not a bug or a glitch but a side effect of the new button. Whether they can fix it who knows. I stand by what I said in that it's just a thing that had to be accounted for when pressing the button. From my understanding the hardware version CAN and easily will predict a double tap. There's no mistaking a double tap. Move over to the iPhone 7- did my user actually want to open the app switcher... before I complete my animation I will pause and for MILLISECONDS and then continue.

It makes 100% sense and it's logical.

Fine, go ahead and use the SOFTWARE home button on any other iPhone by turning on assistive Touch and you'll see that it's no different than the hardware button on the same device!

Explain that! It has nothing to do with a software based button vs hardware based.
 

Mlrollin91

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Fine, go ahead and use the SOFTWARE home button on any other iPhone by turning on assistive Touch and you'll see that it's no different than the hardware button on the same device!

Explain that! It has nothing to do with a software based button vs hardware based.

I turned assistive touch on on both my iPad Air 2 and 7Plus. The animations are identical. Therefore, the different animations are directly tied to the new home button. There is no lag, there is no delay. They are 100% identical. It is different when it comes to the home button only.
 
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