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SaveUsBatman

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I haven't tried the beta yet. What's the issue?
some users including myself are having issues with bluetooth in cars. Where the sound will either cut off or speed up and then cut off.

For example mine after about 5 minutes or so will say its still connected to my car and my iPhone will still say it's playing the audio but there is no sound coming through my speakers.

iPhone 7 Plus, 10.0.2, 2014 Nissan Altima.
 

dasbill

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Anyone having the issue of reachability not working?

Disregard. It takes a little different tap than on the 6. Sorry.
 
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eoblaed

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some users including myself are having issues with bluetooth in cars. Where the sound will either cut off or speed up and then cut off.

For example mine after about 5 minutes or so will say its still connected to my car and my iPhone will still say it's playing the audio but there is no sound coming through my speakers.

iPhone 7 Plus, 10.0.2, 2014 Nissan Altima.

Ah, I thought you were talking about something specific to the 10.1 beta series. Happily bluetooth in my cars works fine on my 7 Plus with 10.0.2.

I was considering grabbing this latest beta, but still on the fence.
 

iToph

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Just updated to beta 2 from official 10.0.2 and there is no noticeable difference for me. The appswitcher animation still looks weired - speed is pretty nice and battery seems to be as it was on 10.0.2.
 

BSben

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The Bedtime alarm sound didn't work this morning, the standard alarm sound was played instead after installing the latest beta.
 

mrblog47

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The trick to a faster animation is to release your finger faster. Seriously.
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Why do you think it's a big as apposed to a feature? It's not the same as typing a normal message.
I wasn't sure about the taking your finger off faster thing actually working though. Seems to work but the smoother animation since beta 2 makes it hard to tell if this actually makes a difference.
 

ZEEN0j

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I've been reading about the iPhone 7 animations for a while now and I haven't seen anyone say this yet:

Laggy animations just bug me also so it was the first thing I noticed with the new phone.
When you press the home button on the iPhone 7, the response time between you pressing the button and the animation beginning is almost instantaneous. This was never the case before and actually makes the iPhone 7 faster to use than the 6s.
Pressing the home button on the 6s will have a different response. The OS waits for a second click to see which animation it should load - the home screen or the multitasking screen.
The 7 responds instantly and if it detects a second press in time (a double click), the animation is interrupted and the app switcher animation is called up.
So TLDR: the animation is deliberately slow at the start in order to allow time for the animation to change and respond to a double click rather than a single press.
I could be wrong, this is just how it seems to me. Apple want the iPhone 7 animation to happen instantly so people know that they've successfully registered a click of the home button. Any waiting time between you clicking and something happening could have potentially caused people be annoyed with the new home button because if there were ever times where the haptic feedback was not quite obvious enough or a user couldn't feel it, (like when the phone is laying flat on a desk), it would be annoying to wait as long as the iPhone 6s to see if you had indeed registered a click of the home button.

That makes sense. If you look closely as you are saying. When double pressing, the first closing animation has already started but gets interrupted by the app switcher animation. That's why there is a slight bump on the window. They can either add the delay again to sort the animation or change the animation so it works with the new behavior.
 
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yPree

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10.1 Beta 2
iPhone 7 Plus - No issues with animations, no issues with Bluetooth functionality. Battery life is great. 12 hour shift, left work with 40% (Compared to leaving work around 12% on my previous 6S Plus). No random resprings, seems very stable imo.
 

sbailey4

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Did anyone else get the 'Welcome to iphone' and request to turn on location services, enter your icloud password, etc after updating?

I went from beta1 to beta2 and that came up. Scared me for a minute..
I got the welcome and login to iCloud but not the location on 6s going from B1 to B2

Hm. So I realised I had my Click Speed set to Slow. I changed it back to Default and it feels so fast!

You can also close an app IMMEDIATELY as soon as you tap an app. With it set as Slow, you can't do that.

EDIT: Can someone do a comparison with the animations. One with click speed as Default and one as Slow? I didn't think changing that would make such a difference.
That only effects double click so not sure what you mean unless oyu are talking fast when double clicking.

I'm pretty sure people are referring to actual sound from the device.
Is this regarding iP7 series only or other devices too?

[Edit]: Sounds jacked on 6s too. Just running a timer and all was well 1st two times then 3rd time I got the vibrate and extremely low volume. Come to think of it, I have missed a few calls and texts and just thought maybe I didnt hear it (clearly I didnt if the volume goes to almost nothing)

[Edit 2]: Interesting I just looked in settings>sound and the "ringer and alerts" slider was all the way down. Could this be changing on its own and that is the issue? As stated I am using the timer for 10 minute sessions this morning and the 3rd time was low. I didnt change any volume settings during this process. Anyone with this issue can you look at your settings and see if it went to min when the problem occurs?
 
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SMIDG3T

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That only effects double click so not sure what you mean unless oyu are talking fast when double clicking.

Nope. Try it. Change you Home Button Click Speed to Slow and you'll notice the difference. The reason why is because it needs to wait a split second longer to see whether or not a second click is initialised.

That's why I wanted someone to do a side-by-side comparison. One with Home Button Click Speed as Slow and one as Normal.
 

SaveUsBatman

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10.1 Beta 2
iPhone 7 Plus - No issues with animations, no issues with Bluetooth functionality. Battery life is great. 12 hour shift, left work with 40% (Compared to leaving work around 12% on my previous 6S Plus). No random resprings, seems very stable imo.
Were you having issues on 10.0.2?
 

yPree

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I meant with Bluetooth functionality in your car or with headphones

No issues at all while using bluetooth. I use it to and from work which is about an hour drive. No issues with it cutting out. Seems to be working flawlessly on my end. I would most definitely know, I also have a bluetooth system in my apartment and I am having no issues with that as well.
 
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Knowlege Bomb

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some users including myself are having issues with bluetooth in cars. Where the sound will either cut off or speed up and then cut off.

For example mine after about 5 minutes or so will say its still connected to my car and my iPhone will still say it's playing the audio but there is no sound coming through my speakers.

iPhone 7 Plus, 10.0.2, 2014 Nissan Altima.
I have the same car but an aftermarket head unit and I've been experiencing this problem since long before iOS 10. It also does it when I'm listening through headphones or the phone's speakers so it's not just a Bluetooth issue.

This generally happens in the latter half of a song and the sound comes back on the next track 100% of the time.
 
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billchase2

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some users including myself are having issues with bluetooth in cars. Where the sound will either cut off or speed up and then cut off.

For example mine after about 5 minutes or so will say its still connected to my car and my iPhone will still say it's playing the audio but there is no sound coming through my speakers.

iPhone 7 Plus, 10.0.2, 2014 Nissan Altima.
Is this just Bluetooth in cars? Or Bluetooth in general? Checking to see if my Bluetooth earbuds would be affected.
 

SaveUsBatman

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Is this just Bluetooth in cars? Or Bluetooth in general? Checking to see if my Bluetooth earbuds would be affected.
Can't really say with 100% certainty. I've seen comments and reports about both. Some people supposedly have no issues whatsoever.

I can tell you that for me it is only in my Altima, but my cheap $35 bluetooth headphones from Amazon work fine ALL day (8+ hours).

If anyone remembers this also happened with the iPhone 6 / iOS 8 when it first came out but I remember my 6 Plus working perfectly in my car.

iOS 8.1 did fix it however, and I'm hoping the final 10.1 build fixes this issue as well.
 

tallazzPilipino

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so both my 7 and 7 Plus are on 10.1 Beta 2 and both definitely have a lower BT volume (even since 10.0.2). I just tried my SE (10.0.2), and it's much higher. tried it on both a stock Honda head unit and my aftermarket Kenwood head unit. same thing on both my BT Denon and BT Bose speakers.

no connectivity issues though.
 
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gk712

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i still have graphical error when notifications are pulled down on 6s+ (only when pulled down on homescreen), this happens not everytime but very often. anyone else?
 
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sbailey4

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Nope. Try it. Change you Home Button Click Speed to Slow and you'll notice the difference. The reason why is because it needs to wait a split second longer to see whether or not a second click is initialised.

That's why I wanted someone to do a side-by-side comparison. One with Home Button Click Speed as Slow and one as Normal.
WOW yep it definitely makes a difference. Weird though very noticeable closing groups or apps but doesn't seem too different actually double tapping like say to get to app switcher. But yes very different between slowest and default. I believe that timing is what they changed in iOS 10 gm as the app close got slower (more home button delay) after pressing home button after beta 7. This setting replicates that change.


so both my 7 and 7 Plus are on 10.1 Beta 2 and both definitely have a lower BT volume (even since 10.0.2). I just tried my SE (10.0.2), and it's much higher. tried it on both a stock Honda head unit and my aftermarket Kenwood head unit. same thing on both my BT Denon and BT Bose speakers.

no connectivity issues though.
So you are saying the iP7 series devices are having the low volume issue but older devices on iOS 10/10.0.2/10.1 are not? Weird since the 7 has 2 speakers. Should be louder. Wonder if they have changed something in the EQ settings (music) like default on for volume limit or sound check?
 

Jayson A

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so both my 7 and 7 Plus are on 10.1 Beta 2 and both definitely have a lower BT volume (even since 10.0.2). I just tried my SE (10.0.2), and it's much higher. tried it on both a stock Honda head unit and my aftermarket Kenwood head unit. same thing on both my BT Denon and BT Bose speakers.

no connectivity issues though.

No issues here and I have a Honda Civic with a stock head unit.

Bluetooth is loud as ever
 
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