iOS 10.1 Beta 2 Bug Fixes, Changes & Improvements

[Mlrollin91]

I just came here searching to see if anyone else was having this issue. It's definitely a bug, and a damned annoying one too. Thanks for posting about it.

I think out of my 8 years of using iOS devices, this is the worst bug I have ever encountered.

 

[Jayson A]

I turned assistive touch on on both my iPad Air 2 and 7Plus. The animations are identical. Therefore, the different animations are directly tied to the new home button. There is no lag, there is no delay. They are 100% identical. It is different when it comes to the home button only.

Mine are not identical.

iPhone 6 - assistive Touch - I get the animation on the right in the comparison video http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd

iPhone 7 Plus - assistive Touch - I get the animation to the left in the comparison video http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd

 

[Mlrollin91]

Mine are not identical.

iPhone 6 - assistive Touch - I get the animation on the right in the comparison video http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd

iPhone 7 Plus - assistive Touch - I get the animation to the left in the comparison video http://imgur.com/a/W6jcd

Well my Air 2 and 7Plus are identical with assistive touch, but not with physical home button. Frame for frame identical. I will film a video later when I have another device and person to help record. They are clearly different when using the physical button, but the software button led to the same animation and they even started and finished at the same exact time. No delay whatsoever.

So either the iPad animation slowed down to match the iPhone 7, or the iPhone 7 sped up to match the Air 2. Don't know without recording and going frame by frame.

 

[Jayson A]

Well my Air 2 and 7Plus are identical with assistive touch, but not with physical home button. Frame for frame identical. I will film a video later when I have another device and person to help record. They are clearly different when using the physical button, but the software button led to the same animation and they even started and finished at the same exact time. No delay whatsoever.

So either the iPad animation slowed down to match the iPhone 7, or the iPhone 7 sped up to match the Air 2. Don't know without recording and going frame by frame.

Here's a comparison using software only buttons in iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 Plus (I changed the resolution of the screen so they look the same).
iPhone 6 on LEFT
iPhone 7 Plus on RIGHT

http://imgur.com/a/1tywE

It looks like the iPhone 7 Plus is a tad slower, but believe it or not, both animations start at the same exact time.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Here's a comparison using software only buttons in iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 Plus (I changed the resolution of the screen so they look the same).
iPhone 6 on LEFT
iPhone 7 Plus on RIGHT

http://imgur.com/a/1tywE

It looks like the iPhone 7 Plus is a tad slower, but believe it or not, both animations start at the same exact time.

Yeah thats not how mine looks. Your animation for the 7 is the same as the hardware button. I need to record mine and break it down, because mine looks different. Your video is still showing the added wallpaper animation for the 7 only.

 

[Jayson A]

Yeah thats not how mine looks. Your animation for the 7 is the same as the hardware button. I need to record mine and break it down, because mine looks different. Your video is still showing the added wallpaper animation for the 7 only.

Are you saying that your iPhone 7 animation is different than my iPhone 7?

Do you have a Mac? I just plug my iPhone into my Mac, open up QuickTime Player and record the screen that way.

I get a full 60fps video by doing that.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Are you saying that your iPhone 7 animation is different than my iPhone 7?

Do you have a Mac? I just plug my iPhone into my Mac, open up QuickTime Player and record the screen that way.

I get a full 60fps video by doing that.

What are you using to slow down the video? iMovie?

 

[darushah.shah]

Hope they have fixed the battery life issue on iPhone 6s

 

[Jayson A]

What are you using to slow down the video? iMovie?

I actually used Photoshop and made animated gifs by copying each frame of the video and make it so that each frame delays by .1 second. It's a painstaking process.

I just tried assistive Touch on my iPad mini 4 and it looks just like my iPhone 6.

I guess all I really want is the wallpaper to stop moving at the same time the icons stop zooming (like when you close an app within 1 second of it being full size)

 

[Chris in DC]

Unwatching this thread because the endless, minute back-and-forth about animations has crossed into parody.

Have fun, FIGHT TO VICTORY OR DEATH!

 

[6836838]

I've been reading about the iPhone 7 animations for a while now and I haven't seen anyone say this yet:

Laggy animations just bug me also so it was the first thing I noticed with the new phone.
When you press the home button on the iPhone 7, the response time between you pressing the button and the animation beginning is almost instantaneous. This was never the case before and actually makes the iPhone 7 faster to use than the 6s.
Pressing the home button on the 6s will have a different response. The OS waits for a second click to see which animation it should load - the home screen or the multitasking screen.
The 7 responds instantly and if it detects a second press in time (a double click), the animation is interrupted and the app switcher animation is called up.
So TLDR: the animation is deliberately slow at the start in order to allow time for the animation to change and respond to a double click rather than a single press.
I could be wrong, this is just how it seems to me. Apple want the iPhone 7 animation to happen instantly so people know that they've successfully registered a click of the home button. Any waiting time between you clicking and something happening could have potentially caused people be annoyed with the new home button because if there were ever times where the haptic feedback was not quite obvious enough or a user couldn't feel it, (like when the phone is laying flat on a desk), it would be annoying to wait as long as the iPhone 6s to see if you had indeed registered a click of the home button.

The trick to a faster animation is to release your finger faster. Seriously.
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This 100%. I can live with a little lag. But it doesn't effect my day to day usage. The keyboard bug does.

Why do you think it's a big as apposed to a feature? It's not the same as typing a normal message.

 

[Jayson A]

I just put on a black wallpaper and it looks sooooo much smoother.

If they would just change the timing of the wallpaper to end at the same time as the icons, I think I'd be content.

 

[Mlrollin91]

The trick to a faster animation is to release your finger faster. Seriously.
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Why do you think it's a big as apposed to a feature? It's not the same as typing a normal message.

Its a bug for like 5 different reasons:

1) Apple has acknowledged it to me.
2) Only happens in Safari.
3) Wasn't like this in any iOS version prior to iOS 10B7.
4) It doesn't happen with 3rd party keyboards.
5) It auto-changes after 2+ characters.

There may be even more reasons than that.

 

[mazdamiata210]

Portrait mode requires the 2 camera setup to work, so it's limited to the 7+

To be fair, it can probably achieve the same effect with software - taking multiple pictures and stitching them together, like it does already.

 

[C DM]

Unwatching this thread because the endless, minute back-and-forth about animations has crossed into parody.

Have fun, FIGHT TO VICTORY OR DEATH!

Yeah, at this point (and even before it really) it sees like it would probably be better if that part of the conversation was to continue in the thread that specifically deals with it all: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-7-ios-10-app-close-animation.1996953/

 

[Mlrollin91]

I actually used Photoshop and made animated gifs by copying each frame of the video and make it so that each frame delays by .1 second. It's a painstaking process.

I just tried assistive Touch on my iPad mini 4 and it looks just like my iPhone 6.

I guess all I really want is the wallpaper to stop moving at the same time the icons stop zooming (like when you close an app within 1 second of it being full size)

Okay, so after creating 4 videos. 2) for 7Plus, 2) for Air 2. One with assistive touch and one without.

I slowed down each video to 20FPS. At 20FPS, both 7Plus videos (with assistive touch and without) share the same animation and same additional wallpaper animation.

But this is where it gets weird. Anything about 30FPS, the speed of the Air 2 Assistive touch On vs. 7Plus Assistive touch on is identical, even though the iPhone 7Plus has the additional wallpaper animation.

So when its hardware button vs hardware button, the Air 2 'appears' faster because it doesn't have the additional wallpaper animation. But when its software button to software button, they are the same exact speed even though the 7Plus is loading the additional wallpaper animation.

So I conclude it has to be some home button correlation. Its the only thing that makes sense. Now is it a bug, or is it intentional. That we don't know. But when it comes to the home button itself on the iPhone 7Plus, it 'appears' to be the slower but its loading an additional 3-4 frames of animation. The animation for the 7 is just simply longer, so that is why we get a 'slowness' feel. There is more going on.
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I just put on a black wallpaper and it looks sooooo much smoother.

If they would just change the timing of the wallpaper to end at the same time as the icons, I think I'd be content.

So we are finally in agreement. The entire 'animation bug' revolves around additional animation on the iPhone 7. The wallpaper continues to move past the icons on the 7 but not on any previous device. So is it intentional or a bug.

 

[Blue Sun]

Have you seen Chris Pirillo on twitter? All he does practically is rant about slight frame rate drops. He @ mentions all kinds of tech journalists trying to get them to run his "story". All I know is I'm really glad he's not a product manager I work with. Seems like a nightmare person.

Chris Pirillo values attention to detail, like the Apple of old. Not sure why you feel the need to bash his name on MacRumors simply for voicing his (relevant) opinion.

 

[Jayson A]

Okay, so after creating 4 videos. 2) for 7Plus, 2) for Air 2. One with assistive touch and one without.

I slowed down each video to 20FPS. At 20FPS, both 7Plus videos (with assistive touch and without) share the same animation and same additional wallpaper animation.

But this is where it gets weird. Anything about 30FPS, the speed of the Air 2 Assistive touch On vs. 7Plus Assistive touch on is identical, even though the iPhone 7Plus has the additional wallpaper animation.

So when its hardware button vs hardware button, the Air 2 'appears' faster because it doesn't have the additional wallpaper animation. But when its software button to software button, they are the same exact speed even though the 7Plus is loading the additional wallpaper animation.

So I conclude it has to be some home button correlation. Its the only thing that makes sense. Now is it a bug, or is it intentional. That we don't know. But when it comes to the home button itself on the iPhone 7Plus, it 'appears' to be the slower but its loading an additional 3-4 frames of animation. The animation for the 7 is just simply longer, so that is why we get a 'slowness' feel. There is more going on.
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So we are finally in agreement. The entire 'animation bug' revolves around additional animation on the iPhone 7. The wallpaper continues to move past the icons on the 7 but not on any previous device. So is it intentional or a bug.

Cool. It's all about the wallpaper not stopping when it's supposed to.

Can you upload the videos?

 

[C DM]

Okay, so after creating 4 videos. 2) for 7Plus, 2) for Air 2. One with assistive touch and one without.

I slowed down each video to 20FPS. At 20FPS, both 7Plus videos (with assistive touch and without) share the same animation and same additional wallpaper animation.

But this is where it gets weird. Anything about 30FPS, the speed of the Air 2 Assistive touch On vs. 7Plus Assistive touch on is identical, even though the iPhone 7Plus has the additional wallpaper animation.

So when its hardware button vs hardware button, the Air 2 'appears' faster because it doesn't have the additional wallpaper animation. But when its software button to software button, they are the same exact speed even though the 7Plus is loading the additional wallpaper animation.

So I conclude it has to be some home button correlation. Its the only thing that makes sense. Now is it a bug, or is it intentional. That we don't know. But when it comes to the home button itself on the iPhone 7Plus, it 'appears' to be the slower but its loading an additional 3-4 frames of animation. The animation for the 7 is just simply longer, so that is why we get a 'slowness' feel. There is more going on.
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So we are finally in agreement. The entire 'animation bug' revolves around additional animation on the iPhone 7. The wallpaper continues to move past the icons on the 7 but not on any previous device. So is it intentional or a bug.

Cool. It's all about the wallpaper not stopping when it's supposed to.

Can you upload the videos?

Perhaps https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-7-ios-10-app-close-animation.1996953/ would be more appropriate as far as continuing the iPhone 7 animation discussion so that it doesn't overtake this beta thread (especially since it seems some people are already essentially leaving this thread because of it based on some earlier posts)?

 

[Mlrollin91]

Perhaps https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-7-ios-10-app-close-animation.1996953/ would be more appropriate as far as continuing the iPhone 7 animation discussion so that it doesn't overtake this beta thread (especially since it seems some people are already essentially leaving this thread because of it based on some earlier posts)?

You are right. My apologies. But I'm pretty sure we are now done discussing as we came to a conclusion.

 

[michael31986]

Anyone report the sound bug. It's to low. So let's report it before it's done.

 

[gwhizkids]

To be fair, it can probably achieve the same effect with software - taking multiple pictures and stitching them together, like it does already.

No doubt about it. Use Gaussian blur on any non subject of interest feature. My guess, however, is that Apple uses parallax to better determine what is foreground and what is background and then also uses actual intentionally out of focus elements to make the effect more true to life.

Perhaps on future phones we'll see synthetic aperture (using many small radiation gathering elements to mimic a larger element). That would be cool.

 

[Jayson A]

Anyone report the sound bug. It's to low. So let's report it before it's done.

My sound isn't low. iPhone 7 Plus. I use Bluetooth in my car and it's the same as always.

 

[eoblaed]

I hope this one fixed car bluetooth streaming issue

I haven't tried the beta yet. What's the issue?

 

[Bbqthis]

Chris Pirillo values attention to detail, like the Apple of old. Not sure why you feel the need to bash his name on MacRumors simply for voicing his (relevant) opinion.

Re-read what I wrote. Then read what he tweets. Then re-read what I wrote.