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Elisha

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2006
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Good grief people, stop wasting so much time trying to predict when the next beta will drop, if this is the last beta before the GM, etc. If the random release of DP7/PB6 on a Friday afternoon in the same week as a previous beta release should have taught us anything, it's that literally nobody on this forum actually knows Apple's beta release schedule. We may see nothing from now until the iPhone event in September, or we may see 3 more betas. Only Apple knows for sure.
Speculating, rumour mongering, and pretending to know more than anyone else are the hallmark traits of posters here!
You should have figured that out by now!
Nobody here knows anything about anything do do with Apple release iOS release schedules.
 

vavalent

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Aug 18, 2014
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Yesterday, in IMessage on my 6, the QuickType area just above the keyboard turned blue for some messages (and not for others). Does this signify something? Is it a theme of some sort? Or simply a bug?


Yes, I've been having this issue. Happens with Apple Music and phone calls.

Okay good to know actually, so it's software-related instead of hardware-related. Fixable by Apple!
 

jonnyb098

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Nov 16, 2010
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Well they're still working on bugs behind the scenes. I'm sure the data gathered from this last beta will help shape the GM and hopefully destroy the bugs. If not, 10.0.1 will be easy enough to release after the new hardware is out.
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It could happen, but I really doubt it. Otherwise we wouldn't have seen beta 6 coming 3 days after beta 5. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah we cant really go by that logic anymore, though I wish we could. But thats just the reality of the way software is done at Apple now. The past few years it takes them till X.2 or X.3 (6 months later) to really get most bugs and glitches ironed out. Hell me and my buddy both constantly have issues copying and pasting things into the messages app after a year of iOS 9 and have to hit copy twice to ensure it actually freaking works (Hardly a coincidence).

To top it off Music, News & Messages are pretty much ground up redesigns. As well as many many changes system wide. This is pretty much the biggest release of changes since iOS 7. I'm not making excuses here but I would be shocked if there aren't some larger bugs still present in 10.0. Agree or not, Music.app was pretty much a disaster for the first couple months after release.

This is the first time ever I'm heavily considering holding off on an iOS update. I'll admit I (along with many others) don't quite trust Apple to release software that "JUST WORKS" out the gate anymore. Nothing is ever perfect but Apple has not had a solid iOS .0 release since iOS 6.

* For the sake of argument please spare me the canned "excuses" or reasoning why I'm wrong. This is my opinion and observances.
 

lagwagon

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Awesome, what about in portrait orentation?

Much better still than where it was in dev beta 1. (Not sure where notifications are placed in portrait orientation, since I almost never use my iPad that way)

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batting1000

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Sep 4, 2011
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Yeah we cant really go by that logic anymore, though I wish we could. But thats just the reality of the way software is done at Apple now. The past few years it takes them till X.2 or X.3 (6 months later) to really get most bugs and glitches ironed out. Hell me and my buddy both constantly have issues copying and pasting things into the messages app after a year of iOS 9 and have to hit copy twice to ensure it actually freaking works (Hardly a coincidence).

To top it off Music, News & Messages are pretty much ground up redesigns. As well as many many changes system wide. This is pretty much the biggest release of changes since iOS 7. I'm not making excuses here but I would be shocked if there aren't some larger bugs still present in 10.0. Agree or not, Music.app was pretty much a disaster for the first couple months after release.

This is the first time ever I'm heavily considering holding off on an iOS update. I'll admit I (along with many others) don't quite trust Apple to release software that "JUST WORKS" out the gate anymore. Nothing is ever perfect but Apple has not had a solid iOS .0 release since iOS 6.

* For the sake of argument please spare me the canned "excuses" or reasoning why I'm wrong. This is my opinion and observances.

You're entitled to your opinion, but the past few betas have been running pretty solid for me and many others so I can't see how the final version would have as many issues as you think.
 

TechByJosh

macrumors newbie
Aug 23, 2016
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on my 6S+ latest beta, my messages are virtually unusable. Tries sending back and forth from iMessage to SMS, never sends some times, and doesn't sync messages through the cloud.
 

Freakonomics101

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Nov 6, 2014
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When a banner notification pops up and when I try to touch it, nothing happens. I have to drop down the notification center then touch the notification to view it.
 

TypeMRT

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Sep 7, 2007
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Are there any bugs, features, or fixes in this beta? There's no additions to the wiki on page 1.
 

VSMacOne

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Oct 18, 2008
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Yeah we cant really go by that logic anymore, though I wish we could. But thats just the reality of the way software is done at Apple now. The past few years it takes them till X.2 or X.3 (6 months later) to really get most bugs and glitches ironed out. Hell me and my buddy both constantly have issues copying and pasting things into the messages app after a year of iOS 9 and have to hit copy twice to ensure it actually freaking works (Hardly a coincidence).

To top it off Music, News & Messages are pretty much ground up redesigns. As well as many many changes system wide. This is pretty much the biggest release of changes since iOS 7. I'm not making excuses here but I would be shocked if there aren't some larger bugs still present in 10.0. Agree or not, Music.app was pretty much a disaster for the first couple months after release.

This is the first time ever I'm heavily considering holding off on an iOS update. I'll admit I (along with many others) don't quite trust Apple to release software that "JUST WORKS" out the gate anymore. Nothing is ever perfect but Apple has not had a solid iOS .0 release since iOS 6.

* For the sake of argument please spare me the canned "excuses" or reasoning why I'm wrong. This is my opinion and observances.
I don't expect to see huge bugs in 10.0. Maybe minor ones but it really seems like Apple has been more aggressive with the beta testing this year. I think the GM will be more solid even than this current beta.
 

gwhizkids

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Jun 21, 2013
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I don't expect to see huge bugs in 10.0. Maybe minor ones but it really seems like Apple has been more aggressive with the beta testing this year. I think the GM will be more solid even than this current beta.
More so than aggressive on betas, they have been aggressive on performance. They know about the lag issues afflicting some users in iOS 9. They probably have way better data on that than anyone out here in the wild can measure. So it seems like they got a good head start this year, which is why we've had such a favorable experience on the betas. They're not dumb: they know beta testers - both developer and public - are opinion leaders when it comes to iOS. If the go-to tech guy (a MR reader!) tells all his acquaintances "Don't download 10.0, its laggy and bug filled", they're not going to download it. That reduces Apple's initial uptake rate, which is the one area where Apple really shines vs Android.
 

lagwagon

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More so than aggressive on betas, they have been aggressive on performance. They know about the lag issues afflicting some users in iOS 9. They probably have way better data on that than anyone out here in the wild can measure. So it seems like they got a good head start this year, which is why we've had such a favorable experience on the betas. They're not dumb: they know beta testers - both developer and public - are opinion leaders when it comes to iOS. If the go-to tech guy (a MR reader!) tells all his acquaintances "Don't download 10.0, its laggy and bug filled", they're not going to download it. That reduces Apple's initial uptake rate, which is the one area where Apple really shines vs Android.

According to the article in this thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-10-internal-improvements.1989593/ They have done quite a bit under the hood to really improve performance with iOS 10, not just the OS but all apps as well.

By the time iOS 10 is in its final major update it should be one of the best iOS's yet (as we all know performance always gets even better the closer to its year end cycle)
 

applefanboy4

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Apr 9, 2015
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is Notes buggy for anyone else? I open it and it immediately crashes. Everytime. I reported it in Feedback.
 

zorinlynx

macrumors G3
May 31, 2007
8,351
18,577
Florida, USA
When a banner notification pops up and when I try to touch it, nothing happens. I have to drop down the notification center then touch the notification to view it.
Swipe it right. You have to swipe because it's on the lock screen and you don't want accidental taps.

Once you swipe down the Notification Center, you already swiped so a tap makes sense there.
 
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gwhizkids

macrumors G5
Jun 21, 2013
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Swipe it right. You have to swipe because it's on the lock screen and you don't want accidental taps.

Once you swipe down the Notification Center, you already swiped so a tap makes sense there.
Not one of Apple's better UI/UX decisions. Maybe will be more tolerable once 3D Touch is universal (years away, unfortunately) but for now, there are too many ways to do the same thing or the ways to do things are not intuitive.
 
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