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iPhone iOS 11 is crap, don’t update !!!
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and our facts still holds up that ios 11 didn't come out good at all for our devices especially the old ones , previous ios releases weren't this bad you'll hardly note any animation stutters or animation struggling to sit in as it is with ios 11 on older devices ... visual glitches affect our everyday use some of us are used to our devices opening apps within the instant and closing apps smoothly with no lags it's been different since ios 11 launch which we didn't see or hardly note in previous releases !
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that's the question we don't know why it's like that, at least when a new ios release is out there should at least one previous ios version still being approved on our ios devices
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the troll comments I had to report and moderate actions were taken
I don’t know who “our” is but both viewpoints are anecdotal and valid.(you know my stance on talking for the masses lol)
It seems fairly common that complaints about iOS are more common at the beginning with the final release being golden.
I don't think it's like that with ios 11 it was already looking bad since the first release which wasn't so with other releases
Remember iOS 8 bricking devices and an inordinate number of people reported springboard crashes? Seemingly more than normal. Took Apple a while to straighten out until iOS 8.4.1 was the “pinnacle of perfection” as iOS 10.3.3 is now is.
I found a small bug in iOS 11.2 on iPhone X.
I tried to create a new contact from an email I received. In portrait mode the “Save” button is directly behind the signal and battery indicators and you cannot click it. Likewise the “Cancel” is behind the clock and you can’t click it.
My fix was to rotate to Landscape so the buttons were accessible.
I tried to create a new contact from an email I received. In portrait mode the “Save” button is directly behind the signal and battery indicators and you cannot click it. Likewise the “Cancel” is behind the clock and you can’t click it.
My fix was to rotate to Landscape so the buttons were accessible.
People won't stop buying it because of that. There is no alternative for people who like iOS. The one and only thing that people could do but don't, is refrain from updating. If instead of 60% of available devices update in a weekend, 2% update in a month, and voice their stability concerns to Apple, they might listen. Okay, we (Apple) cannot brag about update ratios anymore, why is that? Why don't people update, if all it brings are just features? Well, maybe people have issues.
It is the only way it occurs to me that Apple might listen. They might not allow downgrading, but they might try to produce more stable versions.
Its already happening as people are getting wise to Apple's strategy over the years. The number is dwindling every year.
"iOS 11, the latest version of Apple’s operating system for its iPhones and iPads, is now installed on 52 percent of iOS devices.iOS 11 is lagging somewhat behind earlier iOS versions. Last year, iOS 10 was said to have reached 60 percent of devices (as announced by Tim Cook at Apple’s “Hello Again” Mac event on October 27th, 2016), while iOS 9 had been adopted by 67 percent of devices by November 16th, 2015"
Good point. I think that's a very decent approach. It would definitely be an eye sore and an obvious movement to Apple. They would look into it for sure.
I guess I've gone extreme over the modem issue. I tend to just "Buy something else" if I'm frustrated.
Yes, but just before iOS 11 was released, 89% of devices were in iOS 10 (Source: http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/09/10/ios-10-adoption-reaches-89-ahead-of-ios-11-launch/)
You remove devices that aren't compatible with iOS 10 and how many people actually refrained from updating to iOS 10 that were actually compatible with it?
Let's see just before iOS 12 releases. I wouldn't be afraid to venture that iOS 11 numbers will be similar.
It was like that with pretty much all the releases. Just like the whole commentary about the signing of the previous version being somehow meaningful diffeent, looks like a good amount of alternative facts are being put out there.
I don't think those charts include devices that are incompatible with the update.
The issue is that nobody can go back once they update. They generally have no idea what's going to happen when they update, but they do it anyways assuming things will be fine, and then it's too late.
That's why none of these adoption rate figures really mean anything beyond telling developers when to pull support for older versions.
It's certainly no indication of satisfaction, or of what people would run if they could.
I do agree but I have one single question: If someone updates from iOS 9 to 10 - said user is inexperienced - but iOS 10 brings trouble and general instability, regardless of the user's knowledge and just following logic, when Apple launches iOS 11, the aforementioned user should not update, logically assuming updates will affect performance negatively yet... people still update.
Indeed. By not letting people downgrade, and assuming people don't know better and update without thinking, those statistics are meaningless.
Perphas people are hopeful that the update brings the fixes they are looking for.
I also wonder if the average person has any clue when it's a major iOS update rather than just a minor one. People update iOS all year with minor revisions that start addressing bugs and such, so why would it be any different when the new release comes out.
More and more people seem to be realizing that updating when everything is working well isn't always a good idea.
Personally, I'd bring my iPhone 6 back to 9.3 as that was far superior in my opinion, but I'm stuck on 10. I tried 11 and it was quite bad but managed to get back to 10 in time (using methods the average person wouldn't know about or bother with).
Now Procreate would not respond on 11.1 on my iPP, no pencil or touch support.) Had to delete the app and reinstall (at least I had versions of my sketches in photos. Oh yay! /s
If I have to perform another DFU on the iPP, I may not set up again and just wait until I can trade in.
The DFU on the 7+ stopped the no touch & freeze issues in 11.1.2, but damn...this release is not good.
If I have to perform another DFU on the iPP, I may not set up again and just wait until I can trade in.
The DFU on the 7+ stopped the no touch & freeze issues in 11.1.2, but damn...this release is not good.
Yeah I agree on the "people just update to whatever without thinking, oblivious whether it's a new release or a point update." I have a few family members who aren't tech savvy so I just tell them to stay where they are. If I didn't tell them, and the system prompted them, they'd either dismiss the update because they don't know what does it do, or update automatically. Apparently, people generally go with the latter.
I have a friend who likes Apple too, is tech savvy, and he just updates constantly, though he somehow never seems to encounter any problems. He tries to persuade me to update but I always use the same argument: no one can guarantee me it'll go fine, so don't fix what isn't broken.
Also, I wonder whether Apple's release notes - which are always positive - have some effect. A non-tech savvy person reads it and might say: if all it brings are improvements, then, why not? Couple that with what you said about people not distinguishing between minor and major releases, and the "89% adoption of iOS 10" is the result.
exactly and when more and more features are being added your device will surely be crippled by that fact same logic with apps updates , I loaded instagram and youtube old versions on my ios device and noticed that the older versions were pretty much running smooth with no lags than the newest versions on the app store .
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good point here
That’s the conclusion based on wet finger in the air? My wet finger is that there are tens of millions of new customers and the absolute number of upgrades on iOS 11 vs iOS 10 for the same time period is far and away in iOS 11 favor.
So My conclusion is the masses are liking iOS 11.
The point wasn't about just ios11 vs iOS 10. It was a a general point. The adoption rate in the first 2-3 months is decreasing every year with every new iOS upgrade. Seems people are getting to know Apple's trap.
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What trap?
There is no general point only specifically as the number of users on iOS increase dramatically every year. I’ll make a general statement every year the absolute number of users that adopts the new iOS version increases. That’s the more important metric.
You upgrade to a newer iOS and the first version of the new OS comes riddled with performance issues, battery drains and a plethora of bugs as expected. You believe Apple will fix them and hence trust Apple and don't downgrade. Apple stops signing the older iOS after a few weeks. At the end of the iOS iteration, you find out not much has changed and the specific issues which now affect you werent affecting you on the previous version but you cant downgrade thereby trapping you with a slower device and dangling a new device with zero performancer or battery issues as a carrot to entice you to upgrtade
Absolute numbers are meaningless in any analysis. Percentages always put numbers into perspective.
That is correct.
1000 more people died in airplane acccidents since last year is meaningless onoy because it disproves your agenda.
That's not a conclusion you can reasonably make with the information given.
Apple does not allow for reverting iOS versions, so there's no way of knowing whether or not people prefer 11 or would go back to 10 if they could. Anyone who buys a new iOS device will be required to use iOS 11 at this time.
To pretend that absolute numbers mean more than percentages that put those numbers in perspective is also nonsensical. I imagine you may well be a developer but not likely a marketer.