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macfacts

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Real journalist put up dates with their news articles.

And if you read it, he is saying that it is a myth that Apple does it on purpose but doesn't deny that it is the os updates that slow it down. In fact, he admits the reason for the slow down, because of the OS update.

That’s a myth. While slowdowns happen, they take place for a far less nefarious reason. That reason is a software upgrade.
 

C DM

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Not faster than iOS 8. Rule of thumb holds.
Especially for those devices that never had or could have iOS 8.

(Let's also not forget the original iPhone OS and how that would just fly. It didn't have to worry about irrelevant things like 3G connectivity, or the App Store, or even that silly copy and paste.)
 

Altis

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Especially for those devices that never had or could have iOS 8.

(Let's also not forget the original iPhone OS and how that would just fly. It didn't have to worry about irrelevant things like 3G connectivity, or the App Store, or even that silly copy and paste.)

iOS 6 was likely the fastest iOS version they ever made (weighted against the features they had).

iOS 7+ have been dogs, though iOS 9 had the best performance for me of 7 to 11.

I'd go back to 9.3 on my iPhone 6 if I could in a heartbeat, but alas Apple apparently owns the device and decides how it is to be used.
 
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dumastudetto

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iOS 6 was likely the fastest iOS version they ever made (weighted against the features they had).

iOS 7+ have been dogs, though iOS 9 had the best performance for me of 7 to 11.

I'd go back to 9.3 on my iPhone 6 if I could in a heartbeat, but alas Apple apparently owns the device and decides how it is to be used.

Apple owns the software and they decide where it can be copied and installed. You only have a limited license to use the software.
 

Altis

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Apple owns the software and they decide where it can be copied and installed. You only have a limited license to use the software.

Isn't that just wonderful?

Apple can just remove/break features and make it buggy/slow as molasses and there's nothing you can do about it on the $1000 device you purchased and own.

At the very least, you should have the ability to return to whatever iOS version was on the device when you bought it.
 

CTHarrryH

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I'd love to give some of these haters an old phone with an old IOS and I bet they'd hate it as much as they hate this.
Love to compare threads from a year ago and I'll bet the say the same thing from some of the same people.
I guess their only joy in life is negativity.
 

bashman2020

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Rule of thumb with iOS devices. Never upgrade them.
And don't update apps either , yall i found some old app versions on my laptop and i decided to sync them with my itunes , after test running the apps on my iPhone i found out that the old app versions were running pretty smooth with no lags whatsover & now im ruling out that app developers work hand in hand with apple to cripple our devices with updates including app updates. i'm staying on this version of instagram 18.0 with no lags i aint updating **** no more!!!
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iOS 6 was likely the fastest iOS version they ever made (weighted against the features they had).

iOS 7+ have been dogs, though iOS 9 had the best performance for me of 7 to 11.

I'd go back to 9.3 on my iPhone 6 if I could in a heartbeat, but alas Apple apparently owns the device and decides how it is to be used.
Me to i'd go back to 9.3 or 10.3.3 i dont care ios 11 is crap and a hub for slowdowns there werent too much noticeable slowdowns and lags in previous ios release as seen with ios 11 cmon!
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Isn't that just wonderful?

Apple can just remove/break features and make it buggy/slow as molasses and there's nothing you can do about it on the $1000 device you purchased and own.

At the very least, you should have the ability to return to whatever iOS version was on the device when you bought it.
for real what we've been talking about !!! we should all have the ability to return to whatever ios version the device came with or to make it better recent previous ios release with no worries isnt too much to ask for, any security patches that needs to be released can be patched for that ios version without problems!
 
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Denmac1

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Wow! Apparently OP has some issues. I don't know where they really stem from, but the anger in this thread is unreal. I have had the original iPhone, 3gs, 4, 4s, 5, 5s and now have the SE. Sure there have been some ssues with any iOS in the past, but IMHO, Apple tends to do the right updates to correct the issues. I updated both my iPad Air2 and my SE to 11 and have had no issues. OH, and there will be times when you just need to tweak your setting...After all, it is a new OS...deal with it.
I make and receive phone calls. I get email. I get my notifications. My reminders work, and so, on & on.
For Pete's sake....it's a PHONE, along with some other convenient uses. If you don't like the updates and have to cry about them, you have options.

Go ahead and flame if you must...I have body armor.
 

Radon87000

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Especially for those devices that never had or could have iOS 8.

(Let's also not forget the original iPhone OS and how that would just fly. It didn't have to worry about irrelevant things like 3G connectivity, or the App Store, or even that silly copy and paste.)

As I said earlier keep those devices on the OS version they shipped with. Because that’s the only version that will run the best.

I wouldn’t worry about that when Jobs was still alive. This is a strategy formed by Cook. Jobs would never do this.
 

Beeplance

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As I said earlier keep those devices on the OS version they shipped with. Because that’s the only version that will run the best.

I wouldn’t worry about that when Jobs was still alive. This is a strategy formed by Cook. Jobs would never do this.

Pfft...

I can bet my life savings that you'll complain like you are now if you used the iPhone 3G on iOS 4.
 

C DM

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As I said earlier keep those devices on the OS version they shipped with. Because that’s the only version that will run the best.

I wouldn’t worry about that when Jobs was still alive. This is a strategy formed by Cook. Jobs would never do this.
But if iOS 9 was so bad and iOS 10 was an improvement then originally even on those devices it would be better then.

As for Jobs, it's not like there was a whole iOS version that basically actually crippled devices (and not in the sense of the home button responding a fraction of a second differently, but actually crippling most of functionality) to the be point that Steve Jobs was essentially personally forced to address the issue and promise that an update would be released to mitigate things...it's convenient to forget or ignore the past, but reality ends up undermining the statements nonetheless.
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Pfft...

I can bet my life savings that you'll complain like you are now if you used the iPhone 3G on iOS 4.
The usual revisionism and deflections in action. Not sure how anything can really be taken seriously when obvious reality like that is just twisted like it didn't happen.
 
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Altis

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Pfft...

I can bet my life savings that you'll complain like you are now if you used the iPhone 3G on iOS 4.

I don't know... I still have my 4S on iOS 6 and it runs much, much better than my iPhone 6 does on 10/11, despite the 6 being three generations ahead.
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Wow! Apparently OP has some issues. I don't know where they really stem from, but the anger in this thread is unreal. I have had the original iPhone, 3gs, 4, 4s, 5, 5s and now have the SE. Sure there have been some ssues with any iOS in the past, but IMHO, Apple tends to do the right updates to correct the issues. I updated both my iPad Air2 and my SE to 11 and have had no issues. OH, and there will be times when you just need to tweak your setting...After all, it is a new OS...deal with it.
I make and receive phone calls. I get email. I get my notifications. My reminders work, and so, on & on.
For Pete's sake....it's a PHONE, along with some other convenient uses. If you don't like the updates and have to cry about them, you have options.

Go ahead and flame if you must...I have body armor.

What options do you have after you buy a $1000 phone and an update ruins the experience? Buy a whole new device?

You only find out that you don't like the update once it's installed, at which point it's too late to go back.
 

C DM

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I don't know... I still have my 4S on iOS 6 and it runs much, much better than my iPhone 6 does on 10/11, despite the 6 being three generations ahead.
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What options do you have after you buy a $1000 phone and an update ruins the experience? Buy a whole new device?

You only find out that you don't like the update once it's installed, at which point it's too late to go back.
To be fair, while that might not play as big of a role for many, there are usually a few weeks right after a new version is released that people can go back to the previous version if they want to.
 

bashman2020

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To be fair, while that might not play as big of a role for many, there are usually a few weeks right after a new version is released that people can go back to the previous version if they want to.
have you not noticed that apple was too quick to stop signing the previous version this year ??? do you not think if i had the opportunity early I'd have gone back to 10.3.3 on my ios device
 

bashman2020

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I don't know... I still have my 4S on iOS 6 and it runs much, much better than my iPhone 6 does on 10/11, despite the 6 being three generations ahead.
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What options do you have after you buy a $1000 phone and an update ruins the experience? Buy a whole new device?

You only find out that you don't like the update once it's installed, at which point it's too late to go back.
please help me ask him what options he's got
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How quick is too quick?
idk ask apple that !
 
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bashman2020

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As I said earlier keep those devices on the OS version they shipped with. Because that’s the only version that will run the best.

I wouldn’t worry about that when Jobs was still alive. This is a strategy formed by Cook. Jobs would never do this.
Exactly don't update your device as it will become the epitome of lags and slow downs keep it minimal if at all update once you notice your phones are two years three years old be careful with future updates and even app updates too , they'll eventually cripple your device if you do update
[doublepost=1511680442][/doublepost]it's simply what planned obsolescence is after and it's real some critics will say planned obsolescence isn't coming from apple directly but the softwares .. please who makes the softwares themselves ???!
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No. You said



So you tell me, how quick is too quick.
I really don't know I wasn't using my ios device since i updated to 11 I barely had 1 hour of usage a day because i had a sony xperia xa ultra that was functioning pretty smooth for me but for the love of ios I stopped using the sony & when I came back to my ios device I started noticing the changes and it was too late to go back like just 2 days after they stopped signing
 

C DM

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have you not noticed that apple was too quick to stop signing the previous version this year ??? do you not think if i had the opportunity early I'd have gone back to 10.3.3 on my ios device
You are saying there weren't a few weeks there when iOS 10 was still being signed after iOS 11 was released?
 

bashman2020

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You are saying there weren't a few weeks there when iOS 10 was still being signed after iOS 11 was released?
get the point right I wasn't saying there weren't a few weeks before stopped signing I said they were too quick to stop signing this year ... last year people had enough time to decide whether to stay or not unlike this year where you get locked out
 

Feenician

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get the point right I wasn't saying there weren't a few weeks before stopped signing I said they were too quick to stop signing this year ... last year people had enough time to decide whether to stay or not unlike this year where you get locked out

What was the difference? It seems you’re like saying something, something scripted, without knowing why.
 
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