iPhone iOS 11 is crap, don’t update !!!

[tromboneaholic]

I don't dispute the usability of improvements. I partly regret not having iOS 10, I could have some use for Safari split-screen, which isn't available on iOS 9, it was introduced on iOS 10. The iPad experience was surely improved in iOS 11, but I have no Apple Store where I live.
If anything goes awry, Apple won't help. I cannot have the device I use the most crippled by an update. It's too big of a risk. I cannot have performance dropping, crashes, and battery life decreasing. Because if any issues arise - and I am not saying they will inevitably arise - I cannot fix them. Neither can Apple from here. I'm out of luck, and as long as it works fine, I'd rather stay without the improvements but have a perfectly stable iPad.

Restore it as new, and none of those issues will arise.

I have never had a crash on my iPad Air 2 since I bought it. Sounds like people are running some sketchy apps.

 

[bashman2020]

if you're still on 10.3.3 stay there don't move any further yet wait till ios 11.3 reviews come up before you update its a big warning !!!

 

[C DM]

Generally by the seventh release of iOS 10 (which was iOS 10.2.1) the OS was largely ironed out and well polished, there weren't many complaints, certainly people weren't still asking to downgrade to iOS 9! That can't be said for the seventh release of iOS 11 (11.1.2) which is still running horribly for most. People are STILL trying to downgrade to iOS 10 SEVEN versions in!!! It's unheard of.

People we're still complaining of all kinds of things with iOS 10 even with the "SEVENTH" update of iOS last year. Yes, there have been one or two more bug fix releases this year (especially when a brand new type of device thrown into the mix unlike before), but that really doesn't change things anywhere close to what some might want to imply (especially when the recollection of the past is skewed on top of that).

 

[bashman2020]

People we're still complaining of all kinds of things with iOS 10 even with the "SEVENTH" update of iOS last year. Yes, there have been one or two more bug fix releases this year (especially when a brand new type of device thrown into the mix unlike before), but that really doesn't change things anywhere close to what some might want to imply.

what ios devices are you running if I may ask ??

 

[Radon87000]

Funny that when iOS 11 was presented and I saw the iPad improvements I was like I'm going to update to iOS 11 right now on my 9.7 Pro. Then I remembered what iOS 7 did to my iPad 4, and as soon as I started to read all your experiences in this forum I said this iPad is staying permanently on iOS 9.3.4 - which is as stable as I'll get.

You did the right thing. My iPad Pro 2017 is staying on iOS 10.3.3 which is what it launched with. Planned obsolescence isn’t ruining my iPad.

 

[FeliApple]

You did the right thing. My iPad Pro 2017 is staying on iOS 10.3.3 which is what it launched with. Planned obsolescence isn’t ruining my iPad.

As I said in the iPad longevity and value thread, my biggest issue with not updating is app compatibility. New apps start requiring higher iOS versions and existing apps require, likewise, higher versions to be updated. It sucks because after two versions the volume of apps that require this starts being troublesome, but I still try not to give in. It is, though, rather annoying.

 

[tromboneaholic]

You did the right thing. My iPad Pro 2017 is staying on iOS 10.3.3 which is what it launched with. Planned obsolescence isn’t ruining my iPad.

That’s a shame...

 

[Radon87000]

As I said in the iPad longevity and value thread, my biggest issue with not updating is app compatibility. New apps start requiring higher iOS versions and existing apps require, likewise, higher versions to be updated. It sucks because after two versions the volume of apps that require this starts being troublesome, but I still try not to give in. It is, though, rather annoying.

Well I would rather use older apps than have my battery worne out by updates and bear stuttering and slower performance especially because my iPad has a 120hz screen and the smallest of stutters which may go unnoticed on a 60hz screen are instantly noticeable on 120hz. The current apps do what I need them to do and that's enough for me as I enjoy the smooth stutter free experience and 2-3 day battery life which iOS 11 simply wont provide.

I personally used to think updates as one of the advantages of iOS in the past. Not any more

 

[FeliApple]

Well I would rather use older apps than have my battery worne out by updates and bear stuttering and slower performance especially because my iPad has a 120hz screen and the smallest of stutters which may go unnoticed on a 60hz screen are instantly noticeable on 120hz. The current apps do what I need them to do and that's enough for me as I enjoy the smooth stutter free experience and 2-3 day battery life which iOS 11 simply wont provide.

I personally used to think updates as one of the advantages of iOS in the past. Not any more

I wholeheartedly agree with your last sentence. I thought it introduced new features at no expense, but it appears to have an expense - and a rather large one.
Of course the current apps do what I need them to do, but it's a shame that sometimes I want a new app that's really good/useful/entertaining, and when I go to "requirements" it's says: 'iOS 11.0 or higher' 'compatible with iPad 3 or newer'. I have ample hardware, but because I refuse to have my iPad crippled by unoptimized updates, I cannot enjoy an otherwise perfect app, just because of someone's insistence (I don't know if it's Apple's or the developer's) to require a specific - and sometimes the latest - iOS version.

 

[Hal~9000]

As I said in the iPad longevity and value thread, my biggest issue with not updating is app compatibility. New apps start requiring higher iOS versions and existing apps require, likewise, higher versions to be updated. It sucks because after two versions the volume of apps that require this starts being troublesome, but I still try not to give in. It is, though, rather annoying.

Agreed. I mean I could understand if you don't have certain apps on your phone and they are updated on the app store to require a higher iOS to download them in the future... but man does it piss me off when I already have an app downloaded on my phone, which worked perfectly just the day before, that suddenly says I need to update the app (AND my iOS version to do so) in order to continue using it *Grrrrrr*

 

[FeliApple]

Agreed. I mean I could understand if apps are updated on the app store and require a higher iOS to download the update in the future... but man does it piss me off when I already have an app downloaded on my phone, which worked perfectly just the day before, that suddenly says I need to update the app (AND my iOS version to do so) in order to continue using it *Grrrrrr*

Ahh the forced update apps... Those are the worst. Because they won't even let you use an old version. It's either the latest one or nothing, and you aren't that important for me to cripple my iPad for you, my wholehearted apologies. I just delete them. But yes, it's really infuriating.

 

[d5aqoëp]

You did the right thing. My iPad Pro 2017 is staying on iOS 10.3.3 which is what it launched with. Planned obsolescence isn’t ruining my iPad.

If it’s 10.5” iPad, I would suggest that you update it to iOS 11. The latest beta of 11.2 is doing things right UI wise. I am on it and animations are all 120 fps smooth.

 

[CTHarrryH]

My 6s was great on IOS 11 - faster, smoother and better battery life. I almost canceled my X order because my 6s was so great.
Battery life all depends upon what apps you are running and what other parameters are set.
I'd force quit all the apps, Restart the phone and before you bring up any apps let it sit for a while and see what battery life is. Then I'd open a few apps and check again, etc. See if always bad or only after a set of apps

 

[bashman2020]

I wholeheartedly agree with your last sentence. I thought it introduced new features at no expense, but it appears to have an expense - and a rather large one.
Of course the current apps do what I need them to do, but it's a shame that sometimes I want a new app that's really good/useful/entertaining, and when I go to "requirements" it's says: 'iOS 11.0 or higher' 'compatible with iPad 3 or newer'. I have ample hardware, but because I refuse to have my iPad crippled by unoptimized updates, I cannot enjoy an otherwise perfect app, just because of someone's insistence (I don't know if it's Apple's or the developer's) to require a specific - and sometimes the latest - iOS version.

both apple and app developers work hand in hand to cripple our devices with their new features, me too I used to think updates were a good thing for me in the past not anymore even app developers are crippling their apps with updates & I'd rather have an older version of the app and enjoy lag free than new app version with bugs and lags
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Ahh the forced update apps... Those are the worst. Because they won't even let you use an old version. It's either the latest one or nothing, and you aren't that important for me to cripple my iPad for you, my wholehearted apologies. I just delete them. But yes, it's really infuriating.

whatsapp app be quick to do this obsolescence can be infuriating tbh , you can't get to use the app after a long time if you don't update it

 

[C DM]

both apple and app developers work hand in hand to cripple our devices with their new features, me too I used to think updates were a good thing for me in the past not anymore even app developers are crippling their apps with updates & I'd rather have an older version of the app and enjoy lag free than new app version with bugs and lags
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whatsapp app be quick to do this obsolescence can be infuriating tbh , you can't get to use the app after a long time if you don't update it

And after all that vast and complex malicious conpriracy, even by measures of those who believe and promote it all, iOS 10 turned out to be better than iOS 9, for example.

 

[bashman2020]

And after all that vast and complex malicious conpriracy, even by measures of those who believe and promote it all, iOS 10 turned out to be better than iOS 9, for example.

stop comparing ios 10 & 9 in retrospect to ios 11 they are entirely different case

 

[FeliApple]

both apple and app developers work hand in hand to cripple our devices with their new features, me too I used to think updates were a good thing for me in the past not anymore even app developers are crippling their apps with updates & I'd rather have an older version of the app and enjoy lag free than new app version with bugs and lags
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whatsapp app be quick to do this obsolescence can be infuriating tbh , you can't get to use the app after a long time if you don't update it

Whatsapp takes a while to require new iOS versions. They just now dropped support for iOS 6. They do force you to update but as long as they support enough iOS versions, it isn't as bad as an issue as it is with other apps.
I haven't found app developers to cripple apps. Generally, after updates, apps work as they used to - on my devices, and in my experience, at least - but some apps are too quick to require higher versions of iOS, even though they are (again, in my experience) able to maintain a certain stability.
I'd tweak your last statement as: I'd rather have an older version with less features, than update to the latest iOS - in order to be able to have the latest version of the app - and have my entire device's performance suffer.

 

[dumastudetto]

if you're still on 10.3.3 stay there don't move any further yet wait till ios 11.3 reviews come up before you update its a big warning !!!

This is terrible advice. You are taking huge security risks by not updating.

 

[Treyhunna]

people always hate the new ios. cuz they usually release with bugs. iOS 8, 9, 10 all the same. it crazy how we always praise the previous iOS when a new one drops.

 

[decafjava]

both apple and app developers work hand in hand to cripple our devices with their new features, me too I used to think updates were a good thing for me in the past not anymore even app developers are crippling their apps with updates & I'd rather have an older version of the app and enjoy lag free than new app version with bugs and lags
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whatsapp app be quick to do this obsolescence can be infuriating tbh , you can't get to use the app after a long time if you don't update it

This is incredibly wrong.

 

[C DM]

stop comparing ios 10 & 9 in retrospect to ios 11 they are entirely different case

So iOS 11 is being constantly compared to iOS 10, but to discuss comparisons and supposed ongoing conpriacies we shouldn't compare other versions, except for the cherry picked ones that fit a narrative? Convenient.

 

[dumastudetto]

So iOS 11 is being constantly compared to iOS 10, but to discuss comparisons and supposed ongoing conpriacies we shouldn't compare other versions, except for the cherry picked ones that fit a narrative? Convenient.

The conspiracy theorists will claim Apple makes the new OS rough on old devices for several months for the big upgrade push, then as they start gearing towards new phones they polish it up for awhile until the new version of iOS is released. Rinse and repeat next year.

If people really believe these fables, why are they still buying iPhones? If I thought Apple was purposefully screwing me over, I would go elsewhere with my money as a point of principle. Nobody is forced to buy Apple products.

 

[Radon87000]

The conspiracy theorists will claim Apple makes the new OS rough on old devices for several months for the big upgrade push, then as they start gearing towards new phones they polish it up for awhile until the new version of iOS is released. Rinse and repeat next year.

I already said this. Not to mention iOS 10 cleaning up iOS 9's mess didn't achieve anything. I\They destroyed my battery in 9 and I paid to get it replaced s couple of months ago.

If people really believe these fables, why are they still buying iPhones? If I thought Apple was purposefully screwing me over, I would go elsewhere with my money as a point of principle. Nobody is forced to buy Apple products.

Because the other side currently lacks s tablet and a watch.

 

[^^BIGMac]

iOS 11 is crap, don’t update !!!

Actually this is incorrect and awful advice.

 

[dcp10]

Look actual journalism with facts from actual experts.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/...tech/new-iphones-slow-tech-myth.html?referer=