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Well most iOS devices last longer than 3 years as it is now. My dad still has an iPhone 5S!
True. I guess it really depends on the standards one has. My mom uses an iPhone 6s and she is quite happy with it as she doesn't care much about smartphones but I cant use that device as the speed on my X has spoilt me. I find micro stutters and delays on it to be annoying and the home button delay even more annoying but different strokes for different folks I guess. The 6 and the 5s are unusable to me. I would rather use a flip phone than those snails.
 
True. I guess it really depends on the standards one has. My mom uses an iPhone 6s and she is quite happy with it as she doesn't care much about smartphones but I cant use that device as the speed on my X has spoilt me. I find micro stutters and delays on it to be annoying and the home button delay even more annoying but different strokes for different folks I guess. The 6 and the 5s are unusable to me. I would rather use a flip phone than those snails.

Well the iPhone X does have more powerful hardware than the 6S so that’ll account for some of the speed differences you notice. It’s like how Windows PCs slow to a crawl over time, it’s code cruft.
 
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Well most iOS devices last longer than 3 years as it is now. My dad still has an iPhone 5S!
Still using an iPhone 4 and iPad 2 here.
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True. I guess it really depends on the standards one has. My mom uses an iPhone 6s and she is quite happy with it as she doesn't care much about smartphones but I cant use that device as the speed on my X has spoilt me. I find micro stutters and delays on it to be annoying and the home button delay even more annoying but different strokes for different folks I guess. The 6 and the 5s are unusable to me. I would rather use a flip phone than those snails.
It’s all about your personal standards that apply to everything in life. The home button delay, or not, is personal as whether you believe or not there actually is a delay. I wouldn’t trade in my iPhone for a flip phone unless I needed a burner.
 
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Well the iPhone X does have more powerful hardware than the 6S so that’ll account for some of the speed differences you notice. It’s like how Windows PCs slow to a crawl over time, it’s code cruft.

About Windows, it depends on how powerful the computer is and how much you take care of it. My Windows installation on one of my computers is from 2014, and its survived till now without any slowdown whatsoever. I didn't even renew my Norton subscription this time around as I want to see the performance impact it had so far. But I take extreme care of it though. I never installed that many third party apps on it and I don't use those registry cleaners and optimisers advertised throughout the web. i just run a CCleaner scan every now and then and Malwarebytes and some common sense and its all good. I absolutely love the downgrade option Windows provides as a bonus.
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Still using an iPhone 4 and iPad 2 here.
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It’s all about your personal standards that apply to everything in life. The home button delay, or not, is personal as whether you believe or not there actually is a delay. I wouldn’t trade in my iPhone for a flip phone unless I needed a burner.
There is a definite delay. Heck all I have to do is compare to my iPad Pro in front of me to notice it. Its one of those things which is impossible to "unnotice" once you notice it. I am OCD about this stuff.
 
About Windows, it depends on how powerful the computer is and how much you take care of it. My Windows installation on one of my computers is from 2014, and its survived till now without any slowdown whatsoever. I didn't even renew my Norton subscription this time around as I want to see the performance impact it had so far. But I take extreme care of it though. I never installed that many third party apps on it and I don't use those registry cleaners and optimisers advertised throughout the web. i just run a CCleaner scan every now and then and Malwarebytes and some common sense and its all good. I absolutely love the downgrade option Windows provides as a bonus.
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There is a definite delay. Heck all I have to do is compare to my iPad Pro in front of me to notice it. Its one of those things which is impossible to "unnotice" once you notice it. I am OCD about this stuff.
Two pieces of hardware reacting differently? Sure it happens.
 
What I do thank Apple for with iOS 11 is the realisation that updates aren't always a good thing This is the battery life on my iPad on iOS 10.3.3. Note it was on 40% and I charged it to 78%. Didn't use it much this week but absolutely amazing battery life even compared to my X and the 7 Plus which is pathetic. Battery health is at 96%. Unless Apple pulls of an iOS 12 in iOS 13, my iPhone X Plus will likely stay put on iOS 12. Apple's devices perform amazing only in the version they ship with.

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About Windows, it depends on how powerful the computer is and how much you take care of it. My Windows installation on one of my computers is from 2014, and its survived till now without any slowdown whatsoever. I didn't even renew my Norton subscription this time around as I want to see the performance impact it had so far. But I take extreme care of it though. I never installed that many third party apps on it and I don't use those registry cleaners and optimisers advertised throughout the web. i just run a CCleaner scan every now and then and Malwarebytes and some common sense and its all good. I absolutely love the downgrade option Windows provides as a bonus.
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There is a definite delay. Heck all I have to do is compare to my iPad Pro in front of me to notice it. Its one of those things which is impossible to "unnotice" once you notice it. I am OCD about this stuff.
Those youtube videos did not show any delay, above and beyond normal margin of error for humans trying to do some type of test.
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Used to react the same on iOS 10. My iPad Air 2 has a slower home button than my iPad Pro.
Could be you are remembering it incorrectly?
 
Could be you are remembering it incorrectly?

I doubt that would be the case, considering it will be over a year since we are coming across posts from him on the same thing again and again. Only Apple could resolve this for him and us, whether they slowed it down or they fixed a bug which made it look like the button was responding faster on iOS 10 than 11.
 
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Those youtube videos did not show any delay, above and beyond normal margin of error for humans trying to do some type of test.
In the videos I am seeing a delay and a slowdown in newer iOS versions.


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Could be you are remembering it incorrectly?

No I am not because I can replicate it right now in iOS 10 and not in 11. On my iPad Pro running iOS 10 when I enter an app and press the home button immediately after the app loads it quits instantly and that’s how it was on the 7 Plus except it was even better because it responded instantly no matter you quit after any amount of time.

On the iPad Air 2 on iOS 11, it makes no difference whether I press the home button instantly on loading or not, the delay is the same. The response time is the same as the home button iPhones. The iPad Pro is the only device I have which has the fastest home button. But if you press the home button after a long time the delay is there even on that. The 7 Plus on iOS 10 responded instantly no matter when you clicked the home button.
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I doubt that would be the case, considering it will be over a year since we are coming across posts from him on the same thing again and again. Only Apple could resolve this for him and us, whether they slowed it down or they fixed a bug which made it look like the button was responding faster on iOS 10 than 11.
Do you have any idea how long Apple can keep bug reports open for? The home button delay bug report I filed is still marked as open. I think they have forgotten about it. This might just end up being the longest open ticket ever lol
 
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In the videos I am seeing a delay and a slowdown in newer iOS versions.




No I am not because I can replicate it right now in iOS 10 and not in 11. On my iPad Pro running iOS 10 when I enter an app and press the home button immediately after the app loads it quits instantly and that’s how it was on the 7 Plus except it was even better because it responded instantly no matter you quit after any amount of time.
There is absolutely nothing different across many years and threads about people reporting differing experiences with differing idevices. Your own YT videos even proved there was nothing out of the ordinary. Thus debunking the "planned" out of obsolescence. Not to mention this entire YT debacle shoulding 3 out of 5 things slower in ios 11 vs ios 7 and 2 things faster. Therefore the conclusion that ios 11 is categorically slower than ios 7 is incorrect. It's neither faster nor slower.
 
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I am seeing the exact opposite of what you are seeing in the videos thereby proving planned obsolescence.
 
For years people have been claiming that “new APIs” and “new features” are causing old phones to slowdown, I’d like to say that that theory is looking less and less believable. After the announcement of iOS 12, it’s more than possible to support older devices using their full potential.

Now that Apple has its PR backs against the wall with the battery throttle scandal, they magically created software capable of faster performance on older phones. This is the first time they have ever done this. Coincidence? I think not.

Apple loves when people update their devices, but they love their brand even more. Now that the brand is under attack, they are doing everything in their power to win over the trust of their consumers. iOS 12 is proof of this.

Mostly because iOS 12 brings nothing to the table really except tweaks to iOS 11. Planned obsolescence is a thing if you like it or not.
 
What excuse ? It’s the truth and I guess it hurts for you. iOS 12 is what iOS 11 should of been. No fanboy here
I'm a fanboy for preaching that Apple purposefully slows down their phones? Odd take.

iOS 11 runs great for me. No issues on my end.

iOS 12 looks great as well. Lots of features I'm interested in. More-so this year than last.
 
That constitutes “proof” along the lines of this thread? The road to “proof” is a low bar indeed...

Yup. Especially when benchmarks are being resorted to as proof. Probably by 2030 or so my computer won’t be able to run the next Windows version without slowdowns. But according to this thread since it will benchmark the same there is no slowdown. The computer will keep running at the same speed till it dies.
 
Mostly because iOS 12 brings nothing to the table really except tweaks to iOS 11. Planned obsolescence is a thing if you like it or not.

Of course it’s a thing. I would never buy a phone which takes 2 seconds to open a settings menu yet that’s how the iPhone 6 performs on iOS 11. If that’s how it performed on iOS 8 I would have returned the phone in the return window.
 
Yup. Especially when benchmarks are being resorted to as proof. Probably by 2030 or so my computer won’t be able to run the next Windows version without slowdowns. But according to this thread since it will benchmark the same there is no slowdown. The computer will keep running at the same speed till it dies.
Let’s be honest about the hyperbole in this post.
 
Of course it’s a thing. I would never buy a phone which takes 2 seconds to open a settings menu yet that’s how the iPhone 6 performs on iOS 11. If that’s how it performed on iOS 8 I would have returned the phone in the return window.

Dishonest post is dishonest, these times are Ars Technica times with the lowest common denominator (iPhone 5s).

Later versions of iOS 11 made it better.



No, it doesn’t take 2 seconds with iOS 11, considering the iPhone 6 is faster in the CPU and much faster in the SSD, in fact, it might be even faster than most Android today.
 
How about no and don’t tell others what to do?

He’s right.

If you don’t like iOS, get Android.

You’ll love it, Android P is much better than iOS 12, here’s the list of what’s EVEN better on Android:
 
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