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Ok cheers

Could anyone else please try?
iPhone X - I saw what you saw: three dots, saw "Share...", I tapped it, "Share..." disappeared, and no menu appeared.
I had to have "Always ask" selected for sharing my photo, otherwise the "Share..." button wasn't even offered. (Makes sense, I know - it just took me a bit to work out how to set up the test).
 
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Another example: Most of my artsy photo creating apps are listed in the “Creativity” category. Cubasis 3, which is literally used to create music, is listed in the “Entertainment” category.

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Not to jump on you (in particular) on this, but shouldn’t we really be asking why the developer, and not Apple, made this choice?

Given the likely thousands of apps being submitted daily, I doubt Apple has the wherewithal to look at an app and question why the developer made the choice he or she did as to how to categorize the app.

Some developers may just not understand the ramifications of the choice and pick whichever category they encounter first in xCode that seems to fit. Others likely make a very conscious choice of category, perhaps in an effort to differentiate the app in some way and make it more discoverable.

Whatever the reason, this categorizing is the only thing Apple has to go on to characterize the app.

And it needs to stay that way: can you imagine the outcry if Apple starts determining what categories an app belongs in?
 
Had this pop up this morning.

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I’ve had that one show up a few times in earlier betas. This is good. There are so many features in these apps that people forget / never knew of many of them.
 
Not to jump on you (in particular) on this, but shouldn’t we really be asking why the developer, and not Apple, made this choice?

Given the likely thousands of apps being submitted daily, I doubt Apple has the wherewithal to look at an app and question why the developer made the choice he or she did as to how to categorize the app.

Some developers may just not understand the ramifications of the choice and pick whichever category they encounter first in xCode that seems to fit. Others likely make a very conscious choice of category, perhaps in an effort to differentiate the app in some way and make it more discoverable.

Whatever the reason, this categorizing is the only thing Apple has to go on to characterize the app.

And it needs to stay that way: can you imagine the outcry if Apple starts determining what categories an app belongs in?
OR maybe Developers that make these decisions are just left to choose anything at all as a category option, not knowing at that time just what kind of mess they’re creating because they aren’t guided along. If Apple gave them specific options to choose from when compiling their app in Xcode, We’d see the category view get cleaned up really fast. Especially after iOS 14 is released to the public and more people complain. There would be no slow down in the review process because it’d all be automatic.
 
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And it needs to stay that way: can you imagine the outcry if Apple starts determining what categories an app belongs in?
To be fair here, Apple pretty much does this with most decisions anyway. There was a Twitter post I just saw from Rene Ritchie that sums it up better:


Apple will almost ALWAYS make decisions on what needs to go where and when why and how..
 
Not to jump on you (in particular) on this, but shouldn’t we really be asking why the developer, and not Apple, made this choice?

Given the likely thousands of apps being submitted daily, I doubt Apple has the wherewithal to look at an app and question why the developer made the choice he or she did as to how to categorize the app.

Some developers may just not understand the ramifications of the choice and pick whichever category they encounter first in xCode that seems to fit. Others likely make a very conscious choice of category, perhaps in an effort to differentiate the app in some way and make it more discoverable.

Whatever the reason, this categorizing is the only thing Apple has to go on to characterize the app.

And it needs to stay that way: can you imagine the outcry if Apple starts determining what categories an app belongs in?

If Apple gave us the choice, then we wouldn’t have to chase down each app developer. That’s the whole point.
 
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If Apple gave us the choice, then we wouldn’t have to chase down each app developer. That’s the whole point.
I think the point itself is that the Category View is supposed to be more engaging in that you’d interact with apps that you might not normally while also having your main go to apps at the ready. And that whole experience could be better if there was more consistency. And there’ll be more consistency when Apple tells App Devs what they can choose from. Does your app do this, this, and this? Well then your category should be listed as this or this.. Something like that. Xcode could do it all automagicly and we’d all be better off for it. I for one would rather have an option to just swipe to the full list of apps. And I’m sure there are PLENTY more that would rather use that than some seemingly random group of apps. But it IS a cool idea, and I’d be more apt to use it if it was organized better.
 
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Common sense (to me here anyway) leads me to think that if something new like this was implemented better, it’d get used more. When iOS 14 is official, it’ll only take a week or two until you see all the regular tech blogs with articles about the new App Drawer and Category View, FAQs, How To’s, all that.. Because most people aren’t tech savvy people and they’re going to enable a new option and eliminate their home screens and then they’re not going to be able to find their apps. Trust me. If there’s anything working in IT at a Helpdesk for over 15 years has taught me, it’s that most people aren’t dumb, they just want to do the easy lazy thing (I don’t know, YOU fix it). I see many phone calls in the future from people asking where Microsoft InTune is on their phone...
 
iPhone X - I saw what you saw: three dots, saw "Share...", I tapped it, "Share..." disappeared, and no menu appeared.
I had to have "Always ask" selected for sharing my photo, otherwise the "Share..." button wasn't even offered. (Makes sense, I know - it just took me a bit to work out how to set up the test).

Thanks. So it looks to me as it’s a GUI error whereby the ‘...’ shouldn’t be there. I’ve raised it anyway as a bug, but I don’t suppose Apple will do anything about it, I can’t imagine it being a high priority but least I know it’s working as it should. Thanks again.
 
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Common sense (to me here anyway) leads me to think that if something new like this was implemented better, it’d get used more. When iOS 14 is official, it’ll only take a week or two until you see all the regular tech blogs with articles about the new App Drawer and Category View, FAQs, How To’s, all that.. Because most people aren’t tech savvy people and they’re going to enable a new option and eliminate their home screens and then they’re not going to be able to find their apps. Trust me. If there’s anything working in IT at a Helpdesk for over 15 years has taught me, it’s that most people aren’t dumb, they just want to do the easy lazy thing (I don’t know, YOU fix it). I see many phone calls in the future from people asking where Microsoft InTune is on their phone...

Thats a good point. It’s still in beta and it might take the masses to start saying “why is this in reference and reading” for changes to start happening.
 
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On 6s I cannot use FaceTime or iMessage. It says activation unsuccessful. No issues with the service provider or SIM card balance. Any suggestions on it.

Battery back up has been not so great with a battery with 100% battery health.


on iPhone 11 after updating to beta 8, iMessage and FaceTime were disabled. Had to activate it manually.
Another issue is that while on Facebook or some video apps, the app minimises and returns to the Home Screen.

Battery backup is okay. But There has been a 1% decrease in battery health from beta 4 onwards and now it’s at 96%.

Is anyone else having this battery health problem.
 
I think the point itself is that the Category View is supposed to be more engaging in that you’d interact with apps that you might not normally while also having your main go to apps at the ready. And that whole experience could be better if there was more consistency. And there’ll be more consistency when Apple tells App Devs what they can choose from. Does your app do this, this, and this? Well then your category should be listed as this or this.. Something like that. Xcode could do it all automagicly and we’d all be better off for it. I for one would rather have an option to just swipe to the full list of apps. And I’m sure there are PLENTY more that would rather use that than some seemingly random group of apps. But it IS a cool idea, and I’d be more apt to use it if it was organized better.

It's also quite likely that developers will also grow into this... changing and tweaking their choice of category to cause their apps to be more aligned with similar apps as we progress through the evolution of iOS and the App Library.
 
This beta was silky smooth up until this morning. Multiple app crashes.. 3 re-springs. And mail now says no mail.
 
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OR maybe Developers that make these decisions are just left to choose anything at all as a category option, not knowing at that time just what kind of mess they’re creating because they aren’t guided along. If Apple gave them specific options to choose from when compiling their app in Xcode, We’d see the category view get cleaned up really fast. Especially after iOS 14 is released to the public and more people complain. There would be no slow down in the review process because it’d all be automatic.

That though brings some back to the possibility an app fits into more than one category. The user category could differ yet again.
I like the App Library thought. Implementing it categorically though, not going to be easy based on its current design.
 
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Common sense (to me here anyway) leads me to think that if something new like this was implemented better, it’d get used more. When iOS 14 is official, it’ll only take a week or two until you see all the regular tech blogs with articles about the new App Drawer and Category View, FAQs, How To’s, all that.. Because most people aren’t tech savvy people and they’re going to enable a new option and eliminate their home screens and then they’re not going to be able to find their apps. Trust me. If there’s anything working in IT at a Helpdesk for over 15 years has taught me, it’s that most people aren’t dumb, they just want to do the easy lazy thing (I don’t know, YOU fix it). I see many phone calls in the future from people asking where Microsoft InTune is on their phone...

You use the device or the device uses you. :p
 
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OR maybe Developers that make these decisions are just left to choose anything at all as a category option, not knowing at that time just what kind of mess they’re creating because they aren’t guided along. If Apple gave them specific options to choose from when compiling their app in Xcode, We’d see the category view get cleaned up really fast. Especially after iOS 14 is released to the public and more people complain. There would be no slow down in the review process because it’d all be automatic.

Apple do try to help developers....


There were some changes to the categories in Beta 5(I think), and Apple have paired up some categories, such as Productivity & Finance, which weren't merged before.
 
No. Fonts are selected by the developer. Apple is allowing some system font changes, but nothing that will make a single font apply to all text in all apps.

I could able to install different fonts. Now how I can apply them to the supported applications
 
Is anyone else not able to make chrome default browser? Wondering if it’s not completely rolled out yet.
 
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