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gank41

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Here you go, it's here without an iOS updated, in my subscriptions menu in Settings > Apple ID, attached a screenshot for you.

As for the other part of your question, I have no idea, that might be something that would need to be through Apple support, or on theirs or VZW's website....




Why on earth would they tie an iOS release into a Mac/MacOS event? That is nonsensical. Also, you do not know that 14.1 is loaded on the Pro Max & Mini's, it's quite likely 14.2 is on there, as Apple has likely made the current beta a GM, especially since we didn't get a new 14.2 beta this week.

Additionally, Big Sur public release is supposedly the 18th, the day after the Silicon event, meaning that Big Sur GM will come the week of the 9th, or maybe even next week.


The bit in bold is your OPINION, not fact. Only Apple decides what is ready. Not all bugs get fixed before a public release, so what bugs are around (other than the update one, which appears to be server side) are not as impactful for the wider audience outside.

I think if you're really convinced in your opinion, you are in for a surprise.
Seems odd that they'd have a Release Candidate of 14.2 if it's preloaded on the iPhone 12 Pro Max, right?

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I'm again reminded of a scene from the Kentucky Fried Movie, "Expect the unexpected"...
 

gank41

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Where's Banglazed with the 14.2 thread? I need somewhere to complain about it not showing up on my shiny new 12 Pro!
Looks like it’s right here:

 

Ansath

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So, again... For those on this forum so adamant about there rarely being releases on a Friday, ummmm.... yeah.

Well, I don’t think many others, or I said never on a Friday. There’s a difference between not unlikely and never.

Also, considering certain people were adamant that there wouldn’t be a GM for 14.2 or that it was coming this soon....


Ohhh well I was wrong big deal

You repeatedly bashed me for saying there would be one, and that we would have it in the next 2 weeks, at least have some humility.

Seems odd that they'd have a Release Candidate of 14.2 if it's preloaded on the iPhone 12 Pro Max, right?

Not odd at all. What it probably means is that the GM build on the 12 Pro Max & Mini will get a day one update, to fix the update notification bug.

Clearly this RC was the GM brought forward from next week with the added measure of being the emergency fix for the update bug.
 

Ansath

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Still, nice surprise for a Friday, having the GM moved up for the emergency fix. As rare as Friday releases are, I was hoping something would happen to sort that bug out today.
 

Jimpilot

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Still, nice surprise for a Friday, having the GM moved up for the emergency fix. As rare as Friday releases are, I was hoping something would happen to sort that bug out today.
Yes that pop up was getting to be pretty irritating
 
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Mlrollin91

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We already knew that. Apple Fitness+ and some other things are stated as being by end of year, which means there has to be 14.3 by end of year.
Why does Fitness+ require a 14.3? AppleOne was pushed today without need of an update. It is entirely possible it is baked into 14.2.
 
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Ansath

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Why does Fitness+ require a 14.3? AppleOne was pushed today without need of an update. It is entirely possible it is baked into 14.2.
From what we have seen, there's changes needed to the Fitness app. Look at Apple News going to Apple News+, that relied on an iOS update.

Plus there are some other things that are stated coming late 2020, that are not in iOS 14.2, such as:
* Camera support for scanning an App Clip code will be made available in an iOS 14 software update later this year.
* Privacy information on the App Store will be coming in an iOS 14 update later this year.

Plus, there’s a lot of indication that AirTags will be out before the end of the year and iOS 14.3 brings support for them.
 
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Ansath

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So, the RC is 8 builds after the last beta, so this does seem like B4 was originally the GM internally, but due to this bug (which seemed to be date triggered as it went away if you moved the date backwards), they fixed the bug, replacing their original GM, and released it to us, as a combo early GM/emergency fix.

I am still thinking we will see 14.2 on the 12 Pro Max and Mini, and that they will get this update show up OTA. We've had it before where a GM build turned out to have a bug, and the new phones got a OTA update on day one. I can't think which iOS/iPhone release it was.

Still, there's precedent out there.
 

gank41

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Well, I don’t think many others, or I said never on a Friday. There’s a difference between not unlikely and never.

Also, considering certain people were adamant that there wouldn’t be a GM for 14.2 or that it was coming this soon....




You repeatedly bashed me for saying there would be one, and that we would have it in the next 2 weeks, at least have some humility.



Not odd at all. What it probably means is that the GM build on the 12 Pro Max & Mini will get a day one update, to fix the update notification bug.

Clearly this RC was the GM brought forward from next week with the added measure of being the emergency fix for the update bug.
I remember I posted a comment at one point about 14.1 being on the phones and there maybe being a point update for the 12 and 12 Pro, because they can prompt for an update right during setup, and you went on and on trying to disprove me. And here you are saying this same I said. Nice.
 

Ansath

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I remember I posted a comment at one point about 14.1 being on the phones and there maybe being a point update for the 12 and 12 Pro, because they can prompt for an update right during setup, and you went on and on trying to disprove me. And here you are saying this same I said. Nice.

I’m not actually saying the same. I never said they can’t prompt for an update. What I am saying could happen won’t be a point update, it’ll still be 14.2.0.
 

Ansath

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So 14.2 public release next week and 14.3 beta 1?

I stand by public release being w/c 09/11/20, as today was just the GM brought forward a few days with a patch on it to fix the update notification bug (thus it being 8 builds higher than the last beta).

14.3 beta one is a good question. I think next week for that.
 

zz_nosa_r

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I think we might get beta 14.3 as early as next week (for the devs first) then eventually to the public (probably a week later). Though of course, this can change.
 
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Knowlege Bomb

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Looks like it’s right here:

Are you familiar with the concept of “time”?
 

TimFL1

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Apple clearly is playing you guys like a fiddle.

No idea why there is so much speculation about them calling it RC. They called software RC a lot of times in the past, it‘s nothing new. The note clearly states that they use the terminology RC as a drop-in replacement for GM seed.

It being considered „near final“ is exactly that, a build that‘s probably final if no last minute bugs pop up.
 
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