Maybe. WatchOS6 had multiple "a" beta releases before GM was released.So based on that, the next beta should be the GM.
Maybe. WatchOS6 had multiple "a" beta releases before GM was released.So based on that, the next beta should be the GM.
No, it just means that any beta can be the final build (whether its this one or one of the next few). A GM doesn't always have a new build number.So based on that, the next beta should be the GM.
Didn’t even realize 13.7 was released when I posted this, it makes sense. Tomorrow probably, or maybe 4pm today
So based on that, the next beta should be the GM.
A 30 second google search revealed exactly what I've been saying, that the last beta can be the GM:
watchOS 6 Beta 9 build: 17R5575a
watchOS 6 GM build: 17R575
You seem to misunderstand. No one is arguing that this is the last build before the GM. I was just saying that last year, beta 9 was the same build as the GM. So people who had B9 installed got no OTA update with the GM release, because they already got it a week before with B9.Since WatchOS 7 beta 7 came out today, without iOS 14 B7, I am really unsure when iOS 14 B7 will come. If iOS 14 B7 was coming today, then the watch beta would have been left to come with it, surely.
I still wanna know if iOS 13.7 supports WatchOS 7 B7, as that's really weird how they came out together.
Yea, so either way, this isn't the GM, it's just the potential last build before a GM.
I wasn't disputing that any beta could be the last before a GM, I was only disputing that this wasn't the actual GM, and I might have misunderstood your reply to my dispute of that. Although this *could* be the last build before GM, it's not anywhere near a guarantee, and we don't want some people on here thinking otherwise.
You seem to misunderstand. No one is arguing that this is the last build before the GM. I was just saying that last year, beta 9 was the same build as the GM. So people who had B9 installed got no OTA update with the GM release, because they already got it a week before with B9.
That happens quite often that the last beta equals the GM.
So we could literally sit on the GM in 1-2 weeks without knowing (it could even be this beta if the rumors about a reveal event / press release for the S6 next week are true).
// EDIT: 13.7 does not support wOS 7, I tried with my dads phone (and my Watch) just for you (I ****ed up by unpairing though, but I guess it should restore over night).
13.7 seems to be just a backport of the new exposure system.
Maybe. WatchOS6 had multiple "a" beta releases before GM was released.
I reckon iOS 14 GM next week.
One word posts are a waste of the reader's time. They are also a waste of the poster's time. Of course this is all conjecture. But the value is in people posting about WHY they think something will happen. That is the speculation I envisioned when I created the "Speculation" thread concept. I keep pointing that out not for self-congratulatory purposes, but because it makes me singularly qualified to state what this type of thread was designed to accomplish.If someone is commenting in a defined speculation thread, how is it not the assumption that their comments within that thread are speculation?
- If it's a rule, make it a written rule.
- Unless someone in here is an Apple software engineer on the iOS team (and even if there is/was no one would believe them—I'd bet even if someone took a pic of their terminal w/ their Apple badge next to the screen, there'd be "fake!" comments), there's really no "evidence" to post—it is, as the thread defines it as—speculation by default. Why would anyone—with the absence of proof that you already know doesn't exist (in a practical sense)—take it as a definitive "statement"? A qualifier is superfluous within the context of the discussion being had.
Agreed.
It's as if there was a thread titled "What do you guess the weather will be tomorrow?"
...and people got up in arms about someone posting "Sunny." but weren't bothered by ""I think it'll be sunny."
Context matters. We know already that these are all qualified comments not only because of the thread title/purpose, but because the ability to make definitive statements about the future doesn't exist. If you're reading this thread, you understand that these are all speculative guesses, you're not reading a comment in a vacuum divorced from its context.
Not "defending" anyone, I just think the premise of requiring "evidence" (which is conjecture itself!) on a thread where we are literally invited to speculate...is pretty silly.
If someone is commenting in a defined speculation thread, how is it not the assumption that their comments within that thread are speculation?
- If it's a rule, make it a written rule.
- Unless someone in here is an Apple software engineer on the iOS team (and even if there is/was no one would believe them—I'd bet even if someone took a pic of their terminal w/ their Apple badge next to the screen, there'd be "fake!" comments), there's really no "evidence" to post—it is, as the thread defines it as—speculation by default. Why would anyone—with the absence of proof that you already know doesn't exist (in a practical sense)—take it as a definitive "statement"? A qualifier is superfluous within the context of the discussion being had.
Agreed.
It's as if there was a thread titled "What do you guess the weather will be tomorrow?"
...and people got up in arms about someone posting "Sunny." but weren't bothered by ""I think it'll be sunny."
Context matters. We know already that these are all qualified comments not only because of the thread title/purpose, but because the ability to make definitive statements about the future doesn't exist. If you're reading this thread, you understand that these are all speculative guesses, you're not reading a comment in a vacuum divorced from its context.
Not "defending" anyone, I just think the premise of requiring "evidence" (which is conjecture itself!) on a thread where we are literally invited to speculate...is pretty silly.
The typical release windows for the day have come and gone now, so the confidence seems fairly high that it won't happen today. The rest of the week is certainly still within the realm of fairly good possibility, although it can certainly be something that's more for next week.Are we confident that the iOS beta will not come out today because of 13.7?
I read through today's comments, and did some googling, and couldn't pin down whether or not Apple has done both releases on a single day.
If not, what's the leading theory on why the day can't be shared? Is it probably a question of server load? I can theorize why iOS/iPadOS/tvOS/watchOS betas are tied together, but it's unclear why people tie macOS beta releases and non-beta iOS versions to beta iOS releases. I assume they're—at this point—separate teams/schedules?
Sometimes as part of discussions in threads like this there are things that are more than speculation that are posted, like something based on information that was leaked or articles that were posted or something else of that nature. Being able to distinguish information like that from something that just pure speculation (that is also beyond simply random "today" or "tomorrow" type of posts that aren't even really speculation) is something that plays a role.
It can all be called that unless Apple says it, but there is still a range of pure random guessing, speculation based on something like past history or other observations, and even likelihood of something based on leaks and other type of announcements. Not everything carries the same type of meaning behind it, and the way things are stated makes a difference in relation to that.Unless you are Apple....it's all speculation...
Anytime! This is the site I got the info from: https://www.theiphonewiki.comCoolio, so todays WatchOS beta isn't explicitly going to be the final release then, since it seems the logic for iOS builds ending with an 'a' does not hold for WatchOS. Thanks for sharing that.
Just when you thought it wasn’t already confusing enough. 😂
iOS 14 release date is anyones guess at the moment. 🤔
Looks like the Apple Watch 6 and iPad Air are being released.
Just when you thought it wasn’t already confusing enough. 😂
iOS 14 release date is anyones guess at the moment. 🤔
Looks like the Apple Watch 6 and iPad Air are being released.
Or could it be the iPhone event? 🤔
The iPhone event wouldn’t start that early in the day.
It's just not the same as roasting you <3and you guys aren't going to roast him huh?
Mr. Prosser needs to learn about time zones. Apple is in PST NOT EST.Just when you thought it wasn’t already confusing enough. 😂
iOS 14 release date is anyones guess at the moment. 🤔
Looks like the Apple Watch 6 and iPad Air are being released.
Or could it be the date for the iPhone event? 🤔