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Ansath

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Applock feature should be provided to lock specific apps to prevent from being accessed by kids or someone else.
I’m new to iOS and I didn’t find this app lock options in settings

the ability to lock an app is an option for developers to implement themselves. Apple gave them the choice.


This implies that today’s build would be available to Apple today just as it is for us, when in fact Apple is many releases ahead of whatever is released in beta to us. Apple probably had the build we got today finished a couple weeks ago, giving them ample time to get it out into packaging.
You're forgetting the Beta 8 we're receiving was internally finalized about a week ago (maybe even longer), and that Beta 8 likely is the same build as the GM. That means the countdown for the last beta could really have started with Beta 7. There will have been more than 12 days from when Apple internally finalized Beta 7 to when they internally finalized the GM.

Apple has delayed the release of hardware from the Fall product announcement by more than 2 weeks once in the last 9 years. There is no incentive to delay the release of hardware if it's ready to ship. The ready to ship date is what drives the announcement date, and sales are what drive Apple's bottom line, so they aren't going to stall the delivery of new hardware for an extra week of beta testing a relatively stable "a" build of iOS. Does this mean we'll get all the new hardware by 9/25? Probably not. But there will be some hardware, and that requires iOS 14 to be released to the public within the next ~2 weeks from today.

it would not have been finalised between us getting B7 & B8. They won’t have any newer build of B8, as once they decide a build is a GM candidate, they then shift to iOS 14.1 or 14.0.1. Maybe someone will find the compile code for B8, but if the previous final builds before GM are anything to go by, it will have been a build from within the last week.

It’s highly unlikely that they can get all the release stock loaded with the new OS in 2 and half weeks.

The 12 days is the time for us. 12 for us is more like 3 weeks if you account for Apple’s internal finalisation.

Also, seems like people are forgetting that COVID will affect the production line and shipping too.
 

Dwalls90

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it would not have been finalised between us getting B7 & B8. They won’t have any newer build of B8, as once they decide a build is a GM candidate, they then shift to iOS 14.1 or 14.0.1. Maybe someone will find the compile code for B8, but if the previous final builds before GM are anything to go by, it will have been a build from within the last week.

It’s highly unlikely that they can get all the release stock loaded with the new OS in 2 and half weeks.

The 12 days is the time for us. 12 for us is more like 3 weeks if you account for Apple’s internal finalisation.

Also, seems like people are forgetting that COVID will affect the production line and shipping too.

With all due respect, neither of us know when Apple "needs" to finalize any build of iOS by. Each version of software and year is different, so while there are trends, unless you have a leaked internal document showing Apple "must" adhere to some timing interval between builds, I don't think it's fair to suggest otherwise.

We do know that they internally have builds that are at least some days, weeks or months newer than what the public has (by public, I mean developers, not public release). Seeing as we received Beta 7 last week and Beta 8 today, Apple must have internally finalized Beta 8 before today when it was released to the public, meaning my statement of Beta 8 being internally finalized between the public release of Beta 7 and Beta 8 is true. Even if Beta 8 was compiled within the last week, that doesn't mean it couldn't have been compiled a week ago, which is what I was suggesting. Maybe we're misunderstanding each other.

If you do the math timing, I think it actually makes sense. If Beta 8, which will basically serve as the GM minus the logging files and "a" on the build, was internally finalized at least a week ago, then Apple already has had one week of production of the new hardware. Seeing as they won't actually ship before 9/23, that means they'll have 3 weeks in total to load the new OS onto hardware. You should keep in mind that the main components are already manufactured and good to go, it's just a matter of putting them together in the 3 weeks leading up to the release date. Additionally, it's not like Apple has 10 million iPads ready for customers on release day. We usually see a few hundred thousand on release day and maybe a few million within the first week. Apple is a supply chain genius and has had this process nailed down for over 10 years now.
 
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vtboyarc

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So just my speculation: Since this latest beta had no resolved issues in the notes, but still has remaining issues, my guess is they are working on polishing up performance/under the hood fixes before the GM, and then remaining unresolved issues will be in 14.0.1 or 14.1, whichever comes first.

Thoughts?
 

Dwalls90

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So just my speculation: Since this latest beta had no resolved issues in the notes, but still has remaining issues, my guess is they are working on polishing up performance/under the hood fixes before the GM, and then remaining unresolved issues will be in 14.0.1 or 14.1, whichever comes first.

Thoughts?

Beta 8 will be the GM minus the "a" after the build. This is the build that any new iPads and iPhones announced on 9/15 that ship on 9/25 will have. Similar to previous years, yes, I would expect a 14.0.1 on or around 9/25. To set the right expectation, there were a few bugs noted throughout the iOS 13 development period that were still present in the GM and never ended up being resolved. Hopefully 14.0.1 will squash these types of bugs, but I'm not holding my breath that it'll be perfect.

I don't think we'll see 14.1 until later in 2020.
 

gwhizkids

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Beta 8 will be the GM minus the "a" after the build. This is the build that any new iPads and iPhones announced on 9/15 that ship on 9/25 will have. Similar to previous years, yes, I would expect a 14.0.1 on or around 9/25. To set the right expectation, there were a few bugs noted throughout the iOS 13 development period that were still present in the GM and never ended up being resolved. Hopefully 14.0.1 will squash these types of bugs, but I'm not holding my breath that it'll be perfect.

I don't think we'll see 14.1 until later in 2020.

It seems pretty unlikely that we’ll see phones on Tuesday. So, since they don’t want iPhone 12 features revealed in the code, they will likely have to do a 14.1 release before the phones arrive next month.
 

LFC2020

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It seems pretty unlikely that we’ll see phones on Tuesday. So, since they don’t want iPhone 12 features revealed in the code, they will likely have to do a 14.1 release before the phones arrive next month.

Zollotech on YouTube mentioned in his latest video that apple have removed all iPhone 11 videos form their YouTube channels.

The plot thickens. ???
 

gwhizkids

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Zollotech on YouTube mentioned in his latest video that apple have removed all iPhone 11 videos form their YouTube channels.

The plot thickens.

Apple has been throwing curveballs at us the last 2 years (at least). Nothing will surprise me. That’s why I always (I think) qualify my statements here. “Pretty unlikely”, for example. My inner lawyer coming out!
 

Dwalls90

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It seems pretty unlikely that we’ll see phones on Tuesday. So, since they don’t want iPhone 12 features revealed in the code, they will likely have to do a 14.1 release before the phones arrive next month.

Your guess is as good as mine! I agree if no iPhones are announced on Tuesday, we’ll see a 14.1 later on for when they are announced.
 

gwhizkids

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An article about iOS 14 from July 2017:


Thanks for posting this!

Amazing amount of what’s in that article has come to pass. We miss it sometimes (especially this crew) as we dwell on the incremental changes (the trees) but miss the overall arc of how far things have come (the forest)*.

The Siri app suggestions widget is mentioned (not by name) in the article, as are location based automations and shortcuts.

One wonders if the roadmap was revealed by Apple to Mashable or if the author simply divined this on their own.





*If you are not a native English speaker, I am referring to the saying “missing the forest for the trees” or, not perceiving the beauty or extent of the whole because you are focused on one small part.
 

Broken Hope

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Latest rumours have the new devices available to order on the 15th which points more to GM being next week.
 

Dwalls90

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Latest rumours have the new devices available to order on the 15th which points more to GM being next week.

It would be cool if devices were able to be pre-ordered the same day of the event. In past years, usually the event is the earlier half of a week (e.g. Tuesday), and then devices are available for ordering or pre-ordering that Friday. Given 2020 has shaken things up, maybe Apple will deviate, but I'm inclined to think announcement on Tuesday and available for pre-order on Friday.
 

Dwalls90

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If GM is next week then B8 is probably the build that ships as GM. Don‘t see them pushing out another build.

Agreed. Internally the GM was already finalized so that Apple can start loading iOS onto the phones that have already started mass production. GM was virtually B8 minus the "a" on the build. Maybe, just maybe, the GM is one, two or a few builds ahead of B8, but usually the last beta ends up being the "same" build as the GM.
 

pw5a29

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Apple has been throwing curveballs at us the last 2 years (at least). Nothing will surprise me. That’s why I always (I think) qualify my statements here. “Pretty unlikely”, for example. My inner lawyer coming out!

I'm actually quite enjoying all these fake leaks, making the keynote more interesting.

Rmb last couple of years we basically knew all the features of the new phone, we even know what's the "one more thing", the keynote just became a Bingo game.
Worse when the Apple Twitter confirms all the new features 30 mins before the keynote.
 

halloele

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iOS 14.1 ?

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