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I stopped having hope a decade ago. That‘s just a collection of things I‘d love to see, whether they happen or not.
and for that matter, the ability to assign a new contact to a particular sync source. We already can do that with new Calendar entries; many people need separate work and personal contacts lists.
the ability to clean out all those apps I no longer use, but still see in my hidden list of apps.
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It’s always dicey but, if I remember correctly, iOS 14 Beta 1 was surprisingly good.
Apple is never going to release anything that has many significant real world issues. Most of the stuff you see here are annoyances at worst.
But there can be issues. During iOS 13 for example my GPS did not work for most of the first 4 or 5 betas. That meant Maps didn’t work. I muddled through but it was a pain.
Key thing: create that archived backup before you install the early versions of iOS 15. Then you have something to go “home” to if there is a deal breaker.
I have an iPhone specifically for testing, so I will generally install the beta 1 on that device. I don't think I've ever installed the newest iOS version on my "daily driver" before about beta 3... but if you have a good backup of iOS 14.x, and archive it so that it doesn't get overwritten by the iOS 15 image, you can always go back to that, with some caveats (messages, gameplay, etc).
Yes, my original A9 iPhone SE and our A9 iPhone 6s will get dropped. I had considered selling them on Orchard, but they're not offering much for those so I just kept them as backups/kids' phones.
We will also lose support for our A8X iPad Air 2s, but that's fine too, given how old they are.
As long as our A10 iPhone 7 Plus gets supported, I'll be happy. I've always been curious about the A10 iPhone 7 though, since it only has 2 GB RAM. I think it will also get updated but I always thought it was interesting that the 7 got 2 GB RAM and the 7 Plus got 3 GB RAM, and that carried on to the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus, which really surprised me. I had assumed the iPhone 8 would get 3 GB RAM.
OTOH, what about the 2 GB A10 iPads? My wife has the 2019 3 GB A10 iPad 7, which will get support. The 2017 2 GB A9 iPad 5 will likely get dropped this year, and I suspect the 2018 2 GB A10 iPad 6 will get dropped next year.
So, for last supported OSes:
2 GB A9 iPhone SE - iOS 14
2 GB A9 iPhone 6s - iOS 14
2 GB A10 iPhone 7 - iOS 15 or 16?
3 GB A10 iPhone 7 Plus - iOS 15 or 16?
2 GB A11 iPhone 8 - iOS 16?
3 GB A11 iPhone 8 - iOS 16?
2 GB A8X iPad Air 2 - iOS 14
2 GB A9 iPad 5 - iOS 14
2 GB A10 iPad 6 - iOS 15 or 16?
3 GB A10 iPad 7 - iOS 16 or 17?
BTW, I refused to buy the iPad Air and iPhone 6 / 6 Plus because they only had 1 GB RAM. I'm glad I waited the extra year.
We will also lose support for our A8X iPad Air 2s, but that's fine too, given how old they are.
As long as our A10 iPhone 7 Plus gets supported, I'll be happy. I've always been curious about the A10 iPhone 7 though, since it only has 2 GB RAM. I think it will also get updated but I always thought it was interesting that the 7 got 2 GB RAM and the 7 Plus got 3 GB RAM, and that carried on to the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus, which really surprised me. I had assumed the iPhone 8 would get 3 GB RAM.
OTOH, what about the 2 GB A10 iPads? My wife has the 2019 3 GB A10 iPad 7, which will get support. The 2017 2 GB A9 iPad 5 will likely get dropped this year, and I suspect the 2018 2 GB A10 iPad 6 will get dropped next year.
So, for last supported OSes:
2 GB A9 iPhone SE - iOS 14
2 GB A9 iPhone 6s - iOS 14
2 GB A10 iPhone 7 - iOS 15 or 16?
3 GB A10 iPhone 7 Plus - iOS 15 or 16?
2 GB A11 iPhone 8 - iOS 16?
3 GB A11 iPhone 8 - iOS 16?
2 GB A8X iPad Air 2 - iOS 14
2 GB A9 iPad 5 - iOS 14
2 GB A10 iPad 6 - iOS 15 or 16?
3 GB A10 iPad 7 - iOS 16 or 17?
BTW, I refused to buy the iPad Air and iPhone 6 / 6 Plus because they only had 1 GB RAM. I'm glad I waited the extra year.
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The Mail app is well overdue a radical overhaul; Microsoft's Outlook leapfrogged it eons ago. Also, if the FaceID hardware can do optical tracking, give me a subtle zoom depending on where I'm looking at the screen.
I‘m not saying Apple Mail app is great, but I’m forced to use Outlook on Windows 10 with a client provided laptop and I think the UX sucks.
I think the poster was referring to the iOS version of outlook.
Biggest problem for me will be that Banking apps won’t run on early betas.
My credit union app has continued to function properly on all beta releases over the past 4-5 years...
Agreed, for now we can get it with WhatsApp (regular and business apps), while the rest of them (like Signal) are lagging behind.
In the UK it is traditional for Barclays, Barclaycard, Lloyds, Halifax and Santander to not function on early betas of a major iOS release (11.0, 12.0, 13.0 etc)
Interesting... I have an American Airlines branded card through Barclays and if I remember correctly, that Barclays app has functioned properly... so guess it varies from place to place.
iOS 14 was pretty good. I think that‘s when they started to push out modular beta builds that allows them to disable certain systems (that aren‘t ready yet) that‘d otherwise cause issues / bugs.
This. I‘m 100% Apple main on my Apple devices, including Mail. There are so many QoL improvements they could make (like granular remote image loading that only filters out „dangerous“ remote content like pixels/gifs but keeps „safe“ media) and also major changes to the app (redesign, smart office features etc).
I really hope one day they make Mail more business class… tightly followed by a revamped Calendar app. I don‘t see it happening in iOS 15 though.
If history holds, the developer preview will be released Monday or Tuesday of WWDC (06/07 or 06/08)... the public beta is typically a week or so later... and in some years, there was no dev preview 1 equivalent released for the public beta -- the public beta didn't start until dev preview 2.
I guess we'll have to wait to know for sure ... but I feel pretty certain that there will be no public beta until at least 06/14.
I would like to see...
1) Multi-user ability
2) Ability to switch between users like you can on the Apple TV
3) Ability to backup over cellular
4) Ability to backup the watch separately
5) Ability to pair the watch with iPhone or iPad
6) Natural language ability with stock Calendar and Reminders apps
1) Multi-user ability
2) Ability to switch between users like you can on the Apple TV
3) Ability to backup over cellular
4) Ability to backup the watch separately
5) Ability to pair the watch with iPhone or iPad
6) Natural language ability with stock Calendar and Reminders apps