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The Gwhizkids meta and not meta predictions for WWDC and the various Apple platforms

Below are some of my own predictions. Some are based on rumors and wishlists from Mac pundits (MacSparky, Federico Viticci and others). Others are pure conjecture on my part but based on trends I see with Apple’s development of the OS and its own apps. Some are based simply on market trends (e.g., system-wide deeplinking). These are presented in no particular order of likelihood or desirability.

• The AR/VR headset will be more than people expect it to be. Not sure how, yet, but it would be very unApple-like to introduce a product without some sort of “wow”. At least, it can’t be any worse than Digital Touch on the original Apple Watch. I remember the iPad launch when naysayers said it was just going to be an iPhone with a larger screen. They were wrong. I sense the same sort of vibe here.
• We will get interactive widgets. The question is whether this will extend in some form to the Watch. Hope so!
• The rumored “smart lockscreen display” will be incredible and allow much more dense information on the lockscreen, even for people without AOD.
• The journaling app will be very impressive. Not sure how, exactly, but I suspect that this is going to be as close as we get to a tent pole feature in iOS 17/iPadOS 17.
• Mail, on iOS/iPadOS and MacOS will get significant upgrades. Some guesses:
- Sentence autocomplete, like GMail and Outlook (think of this as AI lite)
- Sharesheet optimization (and even inclusion on iOS / iPadOS)
- Integration with Reminders (convert an email directly to a task; no more of the hit or miss “Remind me about this email” syntax)
- Better Shortcuts support, especially on Mac
• Reminders will get more desired features: better smart lists (tagged items can appear in multiple), better project management capabilities (e.g., better sub task handling).
• Meta: Apple will give its own apps more native deep-linking capabilities. This will Sherlock Hookmark.
• MacPro will be re-branded as MacStudio Pro and be the higher end of the MacStudio line with more peripheral capabilities (think external GPUs). I’m basing this, in part, on a Mark Gurman tweet https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1664042684678275073?s=61&t=fCpw8fGhr0d3olzLn5Pvag on Wednesday evening where he referred to 2 desktop Macs being introduced but did not name them. If they were next gen MacStudios I think he would have said so. Same if one was a Mac Pro. So it may be something brand new and he doesn’t want to burn his source by providing the name.
• The keynote will go a full 270 minutes. Reduce your water intake on Monday morning or you won’t make it!
• iPads will get the smart lockscreen display as well as interactive widgets
• Stage Manager will get shortcuts support and allow the naming of stages, which will make them 100x more useful than today’s version
• IPads will get better multi-tasking options (more flexible window positioning, mainly)
• Apple Classical will come to iPad and Mac and CarPlay.


That’s it for now!
 
iOS 17 running on iPhone 14 Pro. We're not too far off... 🤫

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MozMan68

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The Gwhizkids meta and not meta predictions for WWDC and the various Apple platforms

Below are some of my own predictions. Some are based on rumors and wishlists from Mac pundits (MacSparky, Federico Viticci and others). Others are pure conjecture on my part but based on trends I see with Apple’s development of the OS and its own apps. Some are based simply on market trends (e.g., system-wide deeplinking). These are presented in no particular order of likelihood or desirability.

• The AR/VR headset will be more than people expect it to be. Not sure how, yet, but it would be very unApple-like to introduce a product without some sort of “wow”. At least, it can’t be any worse than Digital Touch on the original Apple Watch. I remember the iPad launch when naysayers said it was just going to be an iPhone with a larger screen. They were wrong. I sense the same sort of vibe here.
• We will get interactive widgets. The question is whether this will extend in some form to the Watch. Hope so!
• The rumored “smart lockscreen display” will be incredible and allow much more dense information on the lockscreen, even for people without AOD.
• The journaling app will be very impressive. Not sure how, exactly, but I suspect that this is going to be as close as we get to a tent pole feature in iOS 17/iPadOS 17.
• Mail, on iOS/iPadOS and MacOS will get significant upgrades. Some guesses:
- Sentence autocomplete, like GMail and Outlook (think of this as AI lite)
- Sharesheet optimization (and even inclusion on iOS / iPadOS)
- Integration with Reminders (convert an email directly to a task; no more of the hit or miss “Remind me about this email” syntax)
- Better Shortcuts support, especially on Mac
• Reminders will get more desired features: better smart lists (tagged items can appear in multiple), better project management capabilities (e.g., better sub task handling).
• Meta: Apple will give its own apps more native deep-linking capabilities. This will Sherlock Hookmark.
• MacPro will be re-branded as MacStudio Pro and be the higher end of the MacStudio line with more peripheral capabilities (think external GPUs). I’m basing this, in part, on a Mark Gurman tweet https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1664042684678275073?s=61&t=fCpw8fGhr0d3olzLn5Pvag on Wednesday evening where he referred to 2 desktop Macs being introduced but did not name them. If they were next gen MacStudios I think he would have said so. Same if one was a Mac Pro. So it may be something brand new and he doesn’t want to burn his source by providing the name.
• The keynote will go a full 270 minutes. Reduce your water intake on Monday morning or you won’t make it!
• iPads will get the smart lockscreen display as well as interactive widgets
• Stage Manager will get shortcuts support and allow the naming of stages, which will make them 100x more useful than today’s version
• IPads will get better multi-tasking options (more flexible window positioning, mainly)
• Apple Classical will come to iPad and Mac and CarPlay.


That’s it for now!

Ummmmm…what about DCE for the entire USA??
 
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Wait a minute... It's June 1, 2023.

I just realized.. This thread needs its own iOS 17 folder. Smh.. I'm upset at myself for why it took me so long to realize that.

It will move into the iOS17 folder once created by the mods next week as usual.
 

gwhizkids

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Ummmmm…what about DCE for the entire USA??

I do think DCE/Lookaround will be a key part of the demo on Monday and I can’t believe I left that out. And I think they will do something more with it than merely display it in the headset.
 
There’s a buzz in the air, is it in my ears or is it the vibes Tim is sending out across the globe!?!

Just think everyone, in only 4 short evenings from now we will all be enjoying iOS 17!!! Customizing our new homescreens until way after the street lights come on.
Agreed! Well said.

I also think the production for WWDC23 has been completed as well. This is going to be one long weekend! But we have each other :)

One more thing moment is coming our way!
 

TinaBelcher

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I really hope Apple Music gets a makeover, in particular the library. It’s just a long and large junk of text, and I have to click and click and click to get to somewhere. This is one of the reasons I prefer Spotify. you can filter everything out at the top, but everything else if visual. Apple Music cavas are too larger and extend the time scrolling through. It needs to be more compact. iOS 9 was the peak of Apple Music design. It actually looked more like Spotify back then. Look at these examples. How recent music didn't take up the entire library. How you could filter between library and playlist. And everything was just a compact list, easy to scroll through. No large canvas. This is what I need in order to return to Apple Music. (The desktop version also needs help, especially now that Spotify desktop version has become horrible too) also, look how they used to have colored background for an album playlist matching the artwork.

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arovik

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All? What about us losers who find profiles online and aren't registered developers? You'd better dial down your excitement until the PB comes out.
I remember in the early days of ios betas when you had to hunt for people with a developer account to get added :D That will probably be a thing again...
 
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The Gwhizkids meta and not meta predictions for WWDC and the various Apple platforms

Below are some of my own predictions. Some are based on rumors and wishlists from Mac pundits (MacSparky, Federico Viticci and others). Others are pure conjecture on my part but based on trends I see with Apple’s development of the OS and its own apps. Some are based simply on market trends (e.g., system-wide deeplinking). These are presented in no particular order of likelihood or desirability.

• The AR/VR headset will be more than people expect it to be. Not sure how, yet, but it would be very unApple-like to introduce a product without some sort of “wow”. At least, it can’t be any worse than Digital Touch on the original Apple Watch. I remember the iPad launch when naysayers said it was just going to be an iPhone with a larger screen. They were wrong. I sense the same sort of vibe here.
• We will get interactive widgets. The question is whether this will extend in some form to the Watch. Hope so!
• The rumored “smart lockscreen display” will be incredible and allow much more dense information on the lockscreen, even for people without AOD.
• The journaling app will be very impressive. Not sure how, exactly, but I suspect that this is going to be as close as we get to a tent pole feature in iOS 17/iPadOS 17.
• Mail, on iOS/iPadOS and MacOS will get significant upgrades. Some guesses:
- Sentence autocomplete, like GMail and Outlook (think of this as AI lite)
- Sharesheet optimization (and even inclusion on iOS / iPadOS)
- Integration with Reminders (convert an email directly to a task; no more of the hit or miss “Remind me about this email” syntax)
- Better Shortcuts support, especially on Mac
• Reminders will get more desired features: better smart lists (tagged items can appear in multiple), better project management capabilities (e.g., better sub task handling).
• Meta: Apple will give its own apps more native deep-linking capabilities. This will Sherlock Hookmark.
• MacPro will be re-branded as MacStudio Pro and be the higher end of the MacStudio line with more peripheral capabilities (think external GPUs). I’m basing this, in part, on a Mark Gurman tweet https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1664042684678275073?s=61&t=fCpw8fGhr0d3olzLn5Pvag on Wednesday evening where he referred to 2 desktop Macs being introduced but did not name them. If they were next gen MacStudios I think he would have said so. Same if one was a Mac Pro. So it may be something brand new and he doesn’t want to burn his source by providing the name.
• The keynote will go a full 270 minutes. Reduce your water intake on Monday morning or you won’t make it!
• iPads will get the smart lockscreen display as well as interactive widgets
• Stage Manager will get shortcuts support and allow the naming of stages, which will make them 100x more useful than today’s version
• IPads will get better multi-tasking options (more flexible window positioning, mainly)
• Apple Classical will come to iPad and Mac and CarPlay.


That’s it for now!

I think you're spot on with the interactive widgets. They will become core to the Watch experience with things like Fitness, Weather, Music etc being widgets you can interact with, this will replace quite a number of apps on the Watch. Those same widgets will also be available on iOS.
 

gank41

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• The AR/VR headset will be more than people expect it to be. Not sure how, yet, but it would be very unApple-like to introduce a product without some sort of “wow”.
Apple does have a way of showing us the same category of hardware/software/gear that other companies have made or tried, but they somehow manage to be like, "Well, we just wanted to do this right" and then show you the most simplest "DUH! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?!?" thing. Everyone's assuming these things will be like goggles for gaming, and maybe it will be! But what if they announce that AND some regular glasses? Glasses with simple widgets running like for Maps or maybe the now playing Music widget? Simple stuff, nothing crazy fancy. If they can somehow take the guts of an Apple Watch Ultra and stick it in regular looking glasses, they'll sell out of them on launch day. If we're left to decide whether we're spending $1400 for the "regular" version or $2400 for the "pro" version of some Face Hugger style contraption, they will absolutely not sell out on launch day.


• The keynote will go a full 270 minutes. Reduce your water intake on Monday morning or you won’t make it!
Watch it on your iPad and take it with you!
 

gwhizkids

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Apple does have a way of showing us the same category of hardware/software/gear that other companies have made or tried, but they somehow manage to be like, "Well, we just wanted to do this right" and then show you the most simplest "DUH! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?!?" thing. Everyone's assuming these things will be like goggles for gaming, and maybe it will be! But what if they announce that AND some regular glasses? Glasses with simple widgets running like for Maps or maybe the now playing Music widget? Simple stuff, nothing crazy fancy. If they can somehow take the guts of an Apple Watch Ultra and stick it in regular looking glasses, they'll sell out of them on launch day. If we're left to decide whether we're spending $1400 for the "regular" version or $2400 for the "pro" version of some Face Hugger style contraption, they will absolutely not sell out on launch day.



Watch it on your iPad and take it with you!
I'm not expecting the eyeglasses (as opposed to the headset) on Monday. But if it came, it would be the biggest "one more thing" ever...by a long shot.

But if these rumors of 4000ppi resolution and 5000 nits of brightness are accurate, this headset is going to be able to places where no headset has ever gone before, display-wise. In my mind, its all up to the operating system and apps. I'm sitting here typing this in my local Starbucks. I don't ever want to be here with goggles on and typing in the air while everyone laughs at me. I don't really even want to do that at home. So this is going to be a struggle...hopefully one they've thought through carefully and have a response for.

The glasses, I think, are still the ultimate goal. Wearing them and having an semi-familiar work colleague approach down the hall and having the glasses tell you, 'That's John. He emailed last week about the Jones project. You haven't replied yet. Run!!!!' would be incredible. I still think we're 3-5 years out on that.
 
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I'm not expecting the eyeglasses (as opposed to the headset) on Monday. But if it came, it would be the biggest "one more thing" ever...by a long shot.

But if these rumors of 4000ppi resolution and 5000 nits of brightness are accurate, this headset is going to be able to places where no headset has ever gone before, display-wise. In my mind, its all up to the operating system and apps. I'm sitting here typing this in my local Starbucks. I don't ever want to be here with goggles on and typing in the air while everyone laughs at me. I don't really even want to do that at home. So this is going to be a struggle...hopefully one they've thought through carefully and have a response for.

The glasses, I think, are still the ultimate goal. Wearing them and having an semi-familiar work colleague approach down the hall and having the glasses tell you, 'That's John. He emailed last week about the Jones project. You haven't replied yet. Run!!!!' would be incredible. I still think we're 3-5 years out on that.
Hah! Back in 2006 I wanted to do face recognition with the camera on the BlackBerry - be able to use it to covertly look up people that were shared with you / in your contact list - good for all of us getting up in years and bad with names. :D
 
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Hah! Back in 2006 I wanted to do face recognition with the camera on the BlackBerry - be able to use it to covertly look up people that were shared with you / in your contact list - good for all of us getting up in years and bad with names. :D
Just ahead of your time! Hardware had to catch up.
 

gwhizkids

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At risk of repeating ourselves, before you download and install the iOS 17 Developer Preview 1, you should backup you iPhone and archive that backup. Instructions are below (and also a description of why you need to do that):

 

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The Gwhizkids meta and not meta predictions for WWDC and the various Apple platforms

Below are some of my own predictions. Some are based on rumors and wishlists from Mac pundits (MacSparky, Federico Viticci and others). Others are pure conjecture on my part but based on trends I see with Apple’s development of the OS and its own apps. Some are based simply on market trends (e.g., system-wide deeplinking). These are presented in no particular order of likelihood or desirability.

• The AR/VR headset will be more than people expect it to be. Not sure how, yet, but it would be very unApple-like to introduce a product without some sort of “wow”. At least, it can’t be any worse than Digital Touch on the original Apple Watch. I remember the iPad launch when naysayers said it was just going to be an iPhone with a larger screen. They were wrong. I sense the same sort of vibe here.
• We will get interactive widgets. The question is whether this will extend in some form to the Watch. Hope so!
• The rumored “smart lockscreen display” will be incredible and allow much more dense information on the lockscreen, even for people without AOD.
• The journaling app will be very impressive. Not sure how, exactly, but I suspect that this is going to be as close as we get to a tent pole feature in iOS 17/iPadOS 17.
• Mail, on iOS/iPadOS and MacOS will get significant upgrades. Some guesses:
- Sentence autocomplete, like GMail and Outlook (think of this as AI lite)
- Sharesheet optimization (and even inclusion on iOS / iPadOS)
- Integration with Reminders (convert an email directly to a task; no more of the hit or miss “Remind me about this email” syntax)
- Better Shortcuts support, especially on Mac
• Reminders will get more desired features: better smart lists (tagged items can appear in multiple), better project management capabilities (e.g., better sub task handling).
• Meta: Apple will give its own apps more native deep-linking capabilities. This will Sherlock Hookmark.
• MacPro will be re-branded as MacStudio Pro and be the higher end of the MacStudio line with more peripheral capabilities (think external GPUs). I’m basing this, in part, on a Mark Gurman tweet https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1664042684678275073?s=61&t=fCpw8fGhr0d3olzLn5Pvag on Wednesday evening where he referred to 2 desktop Macs being introduced but did not name them. If they were next gen MacStudios I think he would have said so. Same if one was a Mac Pro. So it may be something brand new and he doesn’t want to burn his source by providing the name.
• The keynote will go a full 270 minutes. Reduce your water intake on Monday morning or you won’t make it!
• iPads will get the smart lockscreen display as well as interactive widgets
• Stage Manager will get shortcuts support and allow the naming of stages, which will make them 100x more useful than today’s version
• IPads will get better multi-tasking options (more flexible window positioning, mainly)
• Apple Classical will come to iPad and Mac and CarPlay.


That’s it for now!
What about control centre?
 
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At risk of repeating ourselves, before you download and install the iOS 17 Developer Preview 1, you should backup you iPhone and archive that backup. Instructions are below (and also a description of why you need to do that):

Will the iOS 17 Beta 1 IPSW be available on day one?
 
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