Oh sure like 17.4 is bundled against hardware.
Any rumours about a new basic ipad to replace series 10? Our national reseller is offering series 10 with £120 off, not sure whether to buy.
Here’s a good summary of the rumored new models: https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing...pad-pro-and-air-models-arriving-in-early-may/
Even if we assume that iPadOS 17.5 includes code for the new iPad’s, this could simply be added in a future 17.5 update after the announcement of the new iPad’s. I have never heard of Apple holding off on a beta cycle for weeks on end just for new hardware. The only way that theory might make sense is if there are features in iPadOS 17.5 that Apple wants to showcase on the new iPads, but aren’t limited to only the new iPads. And even then, I don’t believe that theory makes much sense either. This has been a very strange beta cycle, we should have gotten a beta for 17.5 like 3 weeks ago now. Seems like Apple is dragging their feet for some reason. These last 3 weeks would have been very valuable for making a more stable 17.5 release with less bugs. I really don’t understand why Apple is dragging their feet on getting 17.5 betas going, but I think that the “their waiting to start the beta cycle for 17.5 because their waiting for a few new iPads” theory doesn’t make much sense, and I highly doubt that that is the reason. I’m blaming the EU and all of their silly edicts which have created bugs and other such issues that Apple is having to take more time to fix.
It's rumored that the single build increment is for an install fix that (maybe) about .05% of users were experiencing, and possibly with the iPhone mini / SE?
Yeah, I think the EU has messed everything up with this release cycle. Apple has had to make a bunch of major changes to iOS to comply with their silly edicts, so it’s probably spread their resources thinner. It’s odd that we still haven’t seen a beta for iOS 17.5, but I’m blaming the EU for this delay, that’s at least my best theory.
I'd also add in an entirely new product ecosystem in the VisionPro. I'm sure they didn't hire more people to work on a new product 😉 Seems like this always happens, too. Such and such happens with A and people get pulled from B to work on A, and then B suffers. Now we have A, B, C, D, E, F, whatever... More.
In addition to that, I also suppose that we might see only 17.5 and 17.6 releases without 17.7 based on the timeframe we have now. If Apple still hasn't released the new beta, it means they have reasons to do so, it's either bugs, new features, or work on other OS like mentioned by @gank41 VisionOS. On the other hand, they are also likely to be more focused on the new features of iOS 18 and bug fixing simultaneously. Let's stay patient, it will be definitely released.
They knew that the EU wanted to make these edicts, but they didn’t know if they’d actually have to make all of these changes, and the EU was very unclear on several of their demands. For a while, it was in question whether the EU would decide iMessage was supposedly a “monopoly” or whatever and would require major changes to be made to the Messages app. Apple had to spend months in talks with the EU to make sure that all of these changes they had to make complied with their edicts. I’m sure they probably had to tweak at least a few of the changes in the course of those talks. Also, Apple is probably still dealing with the bugs and other issues popping up since the actual “in the wild” implementation of the changes. So no, I wouldn’t say that it’s “rubbish” to point out that all of these drastic changes have probably had an impact on Apple’s development resources in one way or another. This is probably the cause of the delay for iOS 17.5 betas, at least it’s my best theory.
They actually didn’t know what all the EU would demand until more recently. The EU didn’t even decide if it was going to require changes to iMessages until a short time before the deadline. The EU wasn’t very clear about the precise details of their demands until the very last minute. This is why Apple had to spend months in talks with the EU to determine whether the changes Apple prepared would comply with the DMA. I’m guessing they likely had to change some last minute in order to comply, and they’re almost certainly dealing with all the bugs and security loopholes that are popping up now that these changes are “in the wild”. So I think that it’s perfectly fitting to drop the blame squarely on the EU’s shoulders, since they’re the ones who wanted to make up all of these silly edicts Apple has had to comply with in the first place. I believe it’s fair to say that the holdup on 17.5 betas is likely due to all of the extra problems Apple has had to address with the EU system.
) are silly? I have not seen anybody else say the same thing: now of course I’ve not seen everybody’s opinion on them either. But this thread is undoubtedly not the right place for that conversation.
Also Google has removed that linked Google Messaging post w/image.
You should comment that if a user doesn't see a OTA install available to just ignore online comments about same version with slightly different build. Its most likely to fix some issue that occurred with installing the older build via OTA for a few users nothing more. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT214097
It has been more than a year since the date of entry into force of the EU law was published. It was rumored that the iOS 17 betas in June would address installing apps externally, but it didn't happen. Apple and only Apple is to blame for having waited until the last second, the law has been published for some time, so Apple, like the rest of the companies, has known for some time that they have to comply.
