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this is the wrong stance to take.

apple is not going to restrict the ios 18.1 stable release to iphone 15/15 pro max. 18.1 will likely contain other changes, not just apple intelligence, so. plus they’re having two betas going to avoid unnecessary issues. if people want to use apple intelligence while it’s in early beta, they can swap over to the 18.1 beta. but if not they can stay on 18 beta. 18.1 includes the same changes as ios 18 beta 4, just with the new emoji keyboard design and apple intelligence features enabled.

i’m basing what im saying off the fact that apple did a 17.1 beta before ios 17 hit stable as well. assuming that apples going to fragment ios 18.0/18.1 across devices at stable release is incorrect.
The iOS 17.1 beta did not hit until September 27th, nearly a week after the full release of iOS 17.0 was released. Which in fact had been being beta testing alone for the whole beta cycle. So really not sure how that has anything to do with this. Not even close to the same thing. This is actually very much new ground for Apple. Releasing a major feature to only the current pros is not something they have done before. The way they handle the beta to test those features can’t be compared to prior beta cycles.

Time to move on as nothing you say here advances the conversation of this thread, and is purely just your opinion given as though you think they are facts. I am here now to read how the beta and AI are coming along.
 
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Just out of curiosity, if you are based outside the US and successfully load the 18.1 beta by changing your device language and Siri language to US English, does the apple intelligence stop working if you change your region back to your actual country?
 
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I feel everyone who’s been saying iOS 18.1 before iOS 18.0 Is unprecedented seems to be forgetting that iOS 13.1 released before 13.0 released. Was end of August for 13.1 tho so not as big a gap but they’ve literally done this before

 
Just out of curiosity, if you are based outside the US and successfully load the 18.1 beta by changing your device language and Siri language to US English, does the apple intelligence stop working if you change your region back to your actual country?
Just set my region back to UK and Apple intelligence is unavailable again.
 
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I feel everyone who’s been saying iOS 18.1 before iOS 18.0 Is unprecedented seems to be forgetting that iOS 13.1 released before 13.0 released. Was end of August for 13.1 tho so not as big a gap but they’ve literally done this before

The key difference was they let everyone test 13.1 that was getting 13.0. It wasn't for select 2 devices. So yes they have released .1 betas before the full release of the .0 update, but this one is a bit different. A bit of uncharted territory, so everyone that is claiming they know how Apple will release updates to both betas, and that everyone will fall in line on 18.1 at some point don't actually know. It's still a waiting game to hear from Apple on the direction for iOS 18.

It seems pretty easy as they have done in the past to have everyone on the same . beta, but add the features exclusive to certain phones in that . update. Other than they wanted beta testers on iOS 18.0 to keep testing and fix bugs before the release in September rather than have everyone testing 18.1 until October or later.
 
I’ve noticed this and presume it’s an addition to Siri from 18.1.

Curious as to WHAT Siri is “learning” from the Phone app. 🤔
 

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Just set my region back to UK and Apple intelligence is unavailable again.
Thanks for checking - really appreciate it. I'm now testing the US Region on my phone to check all my apps are still working before I give in and load 18.1 - I won't be able to last out until October. The only thing I've really noticed so far is the option to set up Apple Cash in Wallet - which you can obviously just ignore.
 
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I couldn’t get the 18.1 release notes to load when I downloaded it, but now that it is up, it just says “See the iOS & iPadOS 18 Beta 4 Release Notes for additional details about new features, resolved issues, known issues, and deprecations.“ So there are zero bug fixes and this is just a forked build to develop Apple Intelligence on a separate timeline from the iPhone launch? Got it.
 
The key difference was they let everyone test 13.1 that was getting 13.0. It wasn't for select 2 devices. So yes they have released .1 betas before the full release of the .0 update, but this one is a bit different. A bit of uncharted territory, so everyone that is claiming they know how Apple will release updates to both betas, and that everyone will fall in line on 18.1 at some point don't actually know. It's still a waiting game to hear from Apple on the direction for iOS 18.

It seems pretty easy as they have done in the past to have everyone on the same . beta, but add the features exclusive to certain phones in that . update. Other than they wanted beta testers on iOS 18.0 to keep testing and fix bugs before the release in September rather than have everyone testing 18.1 until October or later.
Obviously the main focus for 18.1 is Apple Intelligence so it makes sense for them to only push it to devices that support it. 18 beta will end when the public version gets released while 18.1 will continue past that as the lone beta track once again. It’s not that unusual.
 
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Obviously the main focus for 18.1 is Apple Intelligence so it makes sense for them to only push it to devices that support it. 18 beta will end when the public version gets released while 18.1 will continue past that as the lone beta track once again. It’s not that unusual.
No the beta cycle per say. Although it is a bit off being two betas running at the same time for .0 and .1 update. The more unusual thing and the whole reason for separate .1 beta is having exclusive feature that only 2 iPhones can run. That is very much out of the ordinary.
 
Is it just me or does this 18.1 beta feel like a bit of Frankenstein beta?
The emojis are all big again and far apart from each other in the emoji keyboard, and other bugs that were fixed came back.
It feels like 18.1 was tested separately from 18.0 for Apple Intelligence integration, but didn't get all the fixes the 18.0 beta got.
In all likelihood that’s probably the case. I’m sure they forked it at least 2-3 weeks ago.
 
I couldn’t get the 18.1 release notes to load when I downloaded it, but now that it is up, it just says “See the iOS & iPadOS 18 Beta 4 Release Notes for additional details about new features, resolved issues, known issues, and deprecations.“ So there are zero bug fixes and this is just a forked build to develop Apple Intelligence on a separate timeline from the iPhone launch? Got it.
Apple reports earnings on Thursday and Tim Cook / Luca Maestri (CFO) will meet with analysts after the earnings are announced.

They had to get this out there before then or they would have a blizzard of largely negative questions about why it had not yet appeared after being promoted so highly at WWDC. The stock price would have taken a big hit.

Not everything Apple does with these betas is purely for development purposes.

Bug fixes and more will come.
 
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I’ve noticed this and presume it’s an addition to Siri from 18.1.

Curious as to WHAT Siri is “learning” from the Phone app. 🤔
From the blurb under the toggle, that sounds like a variant on the existing Siri Suggestion scheme where it suggests an app to use based on post usage patterns. Maybe there’s more to it now though.
 
The iOS 17.1 beta did not hit until September 27th, nearly a week after the full release of iOS 17.0 was released. Which in fact had been being beta testing alone for the whole beta cycle. So really not sure how that has anything to do with this. Not even close to the same thing. This is actually very much new ground for Apple. Releasing a major feature to only the current pros is not something they have done before. The way they handle the beta to test those features can’t be compared to prior beta cycles.

Time to move on as nothing you say here advances the conversation of this thread, and is purely just your opinion given as though you think they are facts. I am here now to read how the beta and AI are coming along.
Apple skipped the “.0” release for iPadOS and went straight to “.1” when introducing iPadOS. This unique situation occurred alongside the release of iOS 13, which had its initial release as iOS 13.0.

Launching a “.1” release initially does have precidence.
 
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Overnight the rest of the writing assistance tools (summarize, lists, keys points, etc) started working for me. I had the phone on charge so that must have allowed the download of the rest of them
 
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Is there a notification if/when a person comes off of the waitlist? Or do I just keep checking in the settings to see if it has changed?
Mine seems to be running a lot hotter using iOS 18.1. Is anyone else also experiencing this same issue?
 
Mine seems to be running a lot hotter using iOS 18.1. Is anyone else also experiencing this same issue?
Quite a few people by all accounts in this thread. And not unexpectedly. It’s a new beta, the phone is reindexing and - most importantly - it’s pushing computations in quantities no mobile processor has ever had to do before.
 
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⬆️ Doesn’t seem like much is available 😂
I am guessing as the betas roll on, we might see more of the other features, as otherwise it’s quite weird for it to only be the ones we currently have in the beta.
 
Obviously the main focus for 18.1 is Apple Intelligence so it makes sense for them to only push it to devices that support it. 18 beta will end when the public version gets released while 18.1 will continue past that as the lone beta track once again. It’s not that unusual.
Exactly this.

Both devices currently can go on either 18.0 or 18.1 beta. So, clearly intention is it’ll get both.

I’m dead certain that all devices will get 18.1 beta once 18.0 releases, and then will get 18.1 when released publicly.

I’m happy to be proven wrong, later this year, though.
 
Apple skipped the “.0” release for iPadOS and went straight to “.1” when introducing iPadOS. This unique situation occurred alongside the release of iOS 13, which had its initial release as iOS 13.0.

Launching a “.1” release initially does have precidence.
I didn't say it didn't have precedence or had not happen before. We have seen in your example and other iOS updates .1 be sent out rather quickly after the initial launch and the launch of new devices. Again not quite the same, which I stated in my last post. Being that this .1 update is only for the 15 pro and pro max in its beta form. As well from what we understand, this won't be a quick release after the full release of iOS 18.0 is deployed. Rumors are that it will be at least October maybe later.

Again not saying something similar hasn't happened before, just this particle case is much different. The launch of AI has put a rather big wrench in the normal beta cycle and new iOS release. Apple thought it best to add entire .1 update separately for the phones that would be running AI, and it's clear they wanted more time to test AI than the 18.0 beta had before launch. Simply put, all I am saying is this is a unique circumstance and this requires a different release. Something that we still don't know full details on.
 
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