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TheBMacAttack

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For me there was never a keyboard lag, when do you experience it?
Good to know it's not everyone. It's the worse in safari or 3rd party apps, but it can be slower on the messages apps as well. Pretty much across iOS.

I have a couple of theories. First, it seems to be the worst when the phone is being charged or hot. Throttle has been an issue with the 14s and 15s, so I think it might be partly due for not optimized heat control. It throttles a lot. Or it's a ram issue. This I highly doubt, but seems to worse on heavy ram used apps.
 

thatJohann

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Not sure this is new but just noticed this. I have two keyboards installed (English and Spanish) and previously to switch to emoji keyboard it took a couple of taps to switch between emoji and Spanish then back to English. Now it’s just one tap to switch to emojis with one simple emoji button at the bottom that cycles between current keyboard and emojis. Much better.

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I don't really care about icons tinting, or going dark, or having shadows or whatever, so with that out of the way ... this beta is working well for me (iPhone 11).

No doubt because my phone doesn't support 5G anyway, I've had absolutely no cellular issues on any of these betas.

The cellular issues appear to be fixed now too.
 
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ManuCH

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Not sure this is new but just noticed this. I have two keyboards installed (English and Spanish) and previously to switch to emoji keyboard it took a couple of taps to switch between emoji and Spanish then back to English. Now it’s just one tap to switch to emojis with one simple emoji button at the bottom that cycles between current keyboard and emojis. Much better.

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And how do you switch languages?
 

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As seen on my iPhone SE (2nd gen):

Modem Firmware
  • iPhone 11 series, iPhone SE (2nd gen) and iPad Air (Cellular, 4th gen): 5.50.00 --> 6.00.00
 

TheBMacAttack

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Seems like Apple focused more on aesthetics with DB 5 than any of kind of optimization. They did fix the cellular bug and recently used emojis, but everything else seems like aesthetics. Pretty frustrating the keyboard lag got worse on this update. I still can't understand how this happens, and why it was mostly fix prior and now it's back. Nothing was done to the keyboard in this update that would have caused it to lag again.
 

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So may be a little earlier, but I believe this beta was a step back for me. Downloaded it yesterday, and I have noticed the phone a bit more sluggish than the last two betas. Animations, swapping between apps and screens, and the keyboard is bad to really laggy if the phone is hot at all. I am very surprised. Makes me think when this is released to the public in the full version, it will be hit or miss on smoothness across the UI.
 

SpecMode

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So may be a little earlier, but I believe this beta was a step back for me. Downloaded it yesterday, and I have noticed the phone a bit more sluggish than the last two betas. Animations, swapping between apps and screens, and the keyboard is bad to really laggy if the phone is hot at all. I am very surprised. Makes me think when this is released to the public in the full version, it will be hit or miss on smoothness across the UI.
If 18.0 follows roughly the same release schedule as 17.0, they've still got almost a month and a half (5-6 more betas) to smooth things out before the public release.

(That said: 18.0 will definitely ship with rough edges, because every release of iOS ships with rough edges, many of which never get sanded down, so we've just grown accustomed to them.)
 

TheBMacAttack

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If 18.0 follows roughly the same release schedule as 17.0, they've still got almost a month and a half (5-6 more betas) to smooth things out before the public release.

(That said: 18.0 will definitely ship with rough edges, because every release of iOS ships with rough edges, many of which never get sanded down, so we've just grown accustomed to them.)
Very true. Just frustrating that it seems fixed in one release and then broken again. I thought it was fix after the last 2 betas.

Issues popping up again like messages just saying message and not who it’s from in notifications coming back in this beta from iOS 17 bugs. Can’t believe that’s still an issue.
 

SpecMode

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Very true. Just frustrating that it seems fixed in one release and then broken again. I thought it was fix after the last 2 betas.

Issues popping up again like messages just saying message and not who it’s from in notifications coming back in this beta from iOS 17 bugs. Can’t believe that’s still an issue.
Every beta cycle I participate in, I go in expecting everything to be broken so that I can only be pleasantly surprised by anything that actually worksand fully prepared to DFU back to the current production release and restore from an encrypted local backup should anything critical be broken.
 

TheBMacAttack

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Every beta cycle I participate in, I go in expecting everything to be broken so that I can only be pleasantly surprised by anything that actually worksand fully prepared to DFU back to the current production release and restore from an encrypted local backup should anything critical be broken.
Good way to look at it!
 

jkel777

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Just downgraded from 18.1 to 18.0 DB 5. So far so good. They finally fixed the overlapping icons in the hidden folder when large icons are selected. A very minor thing, but I thought it was funny lol
 
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Broken Hope

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Just downgraded from 18.1 to 18.0 DB 5. So far so good. They finally fixed the overlapping icons in the hidden folder when large icons are selected. A very minor thing, but I thought it was funny lol
How did you downgrade from 18.1 to 18.0 DB5? I just managed it on my iPad but had to resort to editing the plist backup file to get it to install on 18. Did you do it another way and keep your data?
 

jkel777

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How did you downgrade from 18.1 to 18.0 DB5? I just managed it on my iPad but had to resort to editing the plist backup file to get it to install on 18. Did you do it another way and keep your data?
I downgraded to iOS 17.6 first, then restored from my iOS 17.5.1 backup from iCloud. I didn't make any iCloud backups on iOS 18 because I needed an iOS 17 backup if I wanted to go back, and I don't have a MacBook for an archived backup.

Then once the restore from backup was complete, I installed iOS 18.0 DB 5.

And I just made an iCloud backup of 18.0 since I can't downgrade to iOS 17 anyways and retain the functionality of my Apple Watch running watchOS 11 DB 5.
 

jkel777

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I've noticed a couple bugs on DB 5. The first is if large icons are enabled, you go to your App Library, open a folder, and scroll, the icons stretch towards the edge of the screen and you can scroll sideways. Then, it "crashes" and brings you back to the home screen.

The second is probably not a bug, but more of a continuity error. My Android friend reacted to some of my RCS messages with emojis, and they worked and showed up fine on iOS 18. But when I downgraded to iOS 17 then back to 18, the reaction bubbles are still there, but they show a question mark instead of the emoji. Sorta frustrating but not a huge deal, and most likely a cause of me downgrading to 17 then back to 18.

Does anyone know how to fix the emoji reactions, though? I've filed feedback for both issues. Reboot doesn't help either.
 

Broken Hope

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Just wanting to confirm if a bug or due to me downgrading using an unsupported method. On my iPad the control center has a screen mirroring icon, I can remove it but when I reboot it comes back, is this affecting anyone else?

Thanks
 
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