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Freakonomics101

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Y'all aren't really convincing me 9.2.1 is a worthy beta update lol.

iPhone 6+ and iPad Mini 1st gen here.
 

vertsix

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Y'all aren't really convincing me 9.2.1 is a worthy beta update lol.

iPhone 6+ and iPad Mini 1st gen here.

I just updated and I can notice that the animations when opening apps is ever so slightly smoother and faster. I'm fairly observant with little things like that. App switcher does seem to be slightly more responsive as well.

I'd update because you'll be getting updates before anyone else.
 

eyeseeyou

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I think people should add the word "noticeable" in front of lag when discussing lag related issues.
 

Freakonomics101

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I just updated and I can notice that the animations when opening apps is ever so slightly smoother and faster. I'm fairly observant with little things like that. App switcher does seem to be slightly more responsive as well.

I'd update because you'll be getting updates before anyone else.

9.2 (beta 4 and public release) works really well on both my devices. It's only beta 1, which is why I'm hesitant. But good to know it's running well on your iDevice, at least.
 

DoctorKrabs

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Who said? Who stood there and say you will see a x times/x% improvement of OS smoothness/less lag? Never heard that in the keynote and I've seen every one going back to the original iphone.

Never heard anyone say that at the WWDC 2015 keynote?


Now you have.

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Derp.
 

rmadera

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I have both and I disagree. Performance has being greatly improved on Air 2. And... Considering 6S Plus never ran iOS 8, this proves you have no competence to evaluate this.
Wow. You're so smart. You know what I did own that ran iOS 8? An iPhone 6. Next time, how about you try to understand what people are saying before spewing out insults. Oh, and performance has improved on the Air 2? Try rotating in the Spotlight pulldown. Great performance there...
 
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Elisha

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This is all very subjective. My tolerance for lag is different from yours and so is my perception of fluidity and speed than others.
So arguing with one another is silly!
If someone feels it is still laggy, then it is laggy for them. Why try to convince them it is not just because you don't think it is?
 

Freakonomics101

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Just upgraded my 6+. I'm ehh about it so far but I haven't given it the chance to settle yet. Will update tomorrow.
 

stulaw11

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Ever get the idea that maybe there is a problem with lag? I don't see it but I do respect those that do. I have one issue with iOS 9.X and it is with the animation/fade and screen input delay. That does not mean I am truly unhappy with my device, maybe a little disappointed but not a hater.

I never said it doesn't have its place but NOT every beta update wiki thread. Every single one of the beta threads has been closed because of lag/no lag argument, without any about the actual bugs/fixes. No one can even come around here and get any real information anymore; its really sad.

There are NUMEROUS (and some 10-20 pages) lag threads already in this section these people can go debate it in.

boom
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-difference-between-lag-stutter-and-why-it-matters.1939376/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-9-2-beta-lag-post.1932917/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/anyone-experiencing-major-lagging-with-ios-9-2.1943363/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-9-2-lag.1943511/

Do we need any more threads crapped up?

My point is I dont give 2 sh*ts personally what side of the lag/no lag fence anyone is on, take it to the correct threads above already started and leave this for ACTUAL BETA BUGS/FIXES. We now have 5 pages of crap here, minus MAYBE 3-5 post total, yet again not even addressing any bugs or fixes.
 
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Radon87000

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Just downloaded the beta and I can see visibly no difference on my iPhone 6 and Air 2.Control Centre still stutters and I am now starting to doubt if it it will ever get fixed.Spotlight pulldown still has that split second freeze.Mobile data Menu still stutters while scrolling down the list of apps.Scrolling in apps still has this stutter like I am in Android Gingerbread era.
All in all,a pretty lacklustre update.
 

scjr

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Just downloaded the beta and I can see visibly no difference on my iPhone 6 and Air 2.Control Centre still stutters and I am now starting to doubt if it it will ever get fixed.Spotlight pulldown still has that split second freeze.Mobile data Menu still stutters while scrolling down the list of apps.Scrolling in apps still has this stutter like I am in Android Gingerbread era.
All in all,a pretty lacklustre update.

Report the bugs. Wait for beta 2. Rinse and repeat.
 

Act3

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I never said it doesn't have its place but NOT every beta update wiki thread. Every single one of the beta threads has been closed because of lag/no lag argument, without any about the actual bugs/fixes. No one can even come around here and get any real information anymore; its really sad.

There are NUMEROUS (and some 10-20 pages) lag threads already in this section these people can go debate it in.

boom
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-difference-between-lag-stutter-and-why-it-matters.1939376/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-9-2-beta-lag-post.1932917/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/anyone-experiencing-major-lagging-with-ios-9-2.1943363/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-9-2-lag.1943511/

Do we need any more threads crapped up?

My point is I dont give 2 sh*ts personally what side of the lag/no lag fence anyone is on, take it to the correct threads above already started and leave this for ACTUAL BETA BUGS/FIXES. We now have 5 pages of crap here, minus MAYBE 3-5 post total, yet again not even addressing any bugs or fixes.

Isnt part of this threads title " performance improvements"? If lag doesn't affect you , ignore it. If you can't, maybe it's another form of OCD. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. But some on here are quick to call those seeing lag, OCD. Maybe those freaking over the lag discussion have OCD as well.
 

mconk

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Siri sounds strange. Can't quite place the change...but something is definitely different in the tone. It sounds much more robotic and unnatural. Bizarre.
 
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mconk

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So I haven't seen this mentioned yet on any of the iOS 9 betas, and I'm still seeing it so I'll bring it up here:

What I'm trying to explain is a graphical glitch with any apps that draw lines, like iMessage for example.

If iMessage is currently being used, and you then enter the app switcher, when you scroll side to side you'll notice the lines in iMessage flicker. However, if you switch to another app like Safari, and then enter the app switcher, the lines in iMessage no longer flicker. (But you'll now notice the top line in Safari flickering) If you switch back to iMessage and then again enter the app switcher and slide side to side, you'll see the flicker again.

This happens with every single app that draws lines and is forefront, before wanting the app switcher. Apps that are in the background and not forefront do not display flickering.

I don't remember seeing this prior to iOS 9, and I couldn't find any threads on it...but just mentioning it here as it's still present.
 

philipyoungg

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Just sick of same crap in every thread crapping up Macrumors these days. Complain complain complain. Absolutely nothing constructive whatsoever to add. These forums have gone way downhill to almost a joke level of intelligence.

Does saying "still lags here and there" not considered bug fixes? Telling others it still lags on several places considered "complain"?

If you really care and want this "crap" to end, ignore. Do you realize you create the "crap" by keep replying this?
 

Jayson A

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Stop complaining about lag you guys! It's a BETA, of course it's gonna lag here and there. After all, there is beta software running in the background that will slow your device down as well as indexing. Once the final version is released, there will be NO LAG. Be patient. Apple knows what they're doing. They wouldn't release a laggy iOS.
 
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Radon87000

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Stop complaining about lag you guys! It's a BETA, of course it's gonna lag here and there. After all, there is beta software running in the background that will slow your device down as well as indexing. Once the final version is released, there will be NO LAG. Be patient. Apple knows what they're doing. They wouldn't release a laggy iOS.
This "beta" excuse has been tossed around since April 2014 and nothing changes
 

Agent2015

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Do you even know what OCD means?My experience with iOS 9 is replicated by a lot of other people.Just because some don't experience it doesn't mean my experience is invalidated.The lag most definitely exists as Xcode simply proves it does.Whats subjective is people noticing the drop.Some don't mind 30fps.I on the other hand need a constant 60.Performance is a big highlight of iOS 9 so it deserved a big mention in iOS 9 beta threads as Apple claims it should be smoother than iOS 8 when factually it isn't.If you don't like us discussing this issue than just put us on ignore.Problem solved


I bought my Air 2 and iPhone 6 at $800+ and I feel the least I should expect is similar performance when a device gets an update.These are supposed to be flagship products with ZERO performance hitches.Heck even the iPad Pro has em and it costs a thousand bucks which is absolutely unacceptable.
If I could tolerate this microsecond lag as you put it I would just get a cheap Android and be done with it
Well Radon I too have one those so called flagship $800 iPhone 6 but mine has ZERO performance hitches. iOS 9.2 and now 9.2.1 beta is flawless in my experience. And I happen to be one of those that is very picky about performance and stability. By the way have you actually extensively used an iPad Pro? I have and must they are absolutely fantastic!
 
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philipyoungg

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Table view performance improved a lot. There's a little to minimal lag on Pinterest and Twitter. Should happen also on all scrolling apps. (Mini retina)

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Edit: tapatalk, jawbone up scroll performance also improved. Nice update after all.

Games also smoother and less hiccup over some places.
 
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ZEEN0j

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So I haven't seen this mentioned yet on any of the iOS 9 betas, and I'm still seeing it so I'll bring it up here:

What I'm trying to explain is a graphical glitch with any apps that draw lines, like iMessage for example.

If iMessage is currently being used, and you then enter the app switcher, when you scroll side to side you'll notice the lines in iMessage flicker. However, if you switch to another app like Safari, and then enter the app switcher, the lines in iMessage no longer flicker. (But you'll now notice the top line in Safari flickering) If you switch back to iMessage and then again enter the app switcher and slide side to side, you'll see the flicker again.

This happens with every single app that draws lines and is forefront, before wanting the app switcher. Apps that are in the background and not forefront do not display flickering.

I don't remember seeing this prior to iOS 9, and I couldn't find any threads on it...but just mentioning it here as it's still present.

I think it's a resolution thing. The current app you have open when in the app switcher is being shown in its correct full resolution. Apps than are not the "opened" app are very slightly blurry so I guess the lines get a little thicker.
 

duffman9000

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Well Radon I too have one those so called flagship $800 iPhone 6 but mine has ZERO performance hitches. iOS 9.2 and now 9.2.1 beta is flawless in my experience. And I happen to be one of those that is very picky about performance and stability. By the way have you actually extensively used an iPad Pro? I have and must they are absolutely fantastic!

Flawless you say? Hmmm... let's see what my 6+ has to say about that.
1. Pull down Spotlight. Wow it took Apple months to fix this now it's reasonably smooth.
2. Bring up the keyboard. Lets search for something.
3. Rotate phone into landscape. OMG! It's fl.....aw.....les......s.!

And before you start about your 6 running so well, well duh, no kidding. My wife's 6 smokes my 6+. That hasn't changed in more than a year.
 
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Freakonomics101

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Okay... So back on topic... 9.1.2 beta seems to be running smooth on my iPhone 6 Plus. Testing on my iPad now. Not seeing any huge differences other than the slight performance improvement. Haven't ran into any new unknown bugs yet. Will report if and when I do.
 

Sumter

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So I haven't seen this mentioned yet on any of the iOS 9 betas, and I'm still seeing it so I'll bring it up here:

What I'm trying to explain is a graphical glitch with any apps that draw lines, like iMessage for example.

If iMessage is currently being used, and you then enter the app switcher, when you scroll side to side you'll notice the lines in iMessage flicker. However, if you switch to another app like Safari, and then enter the app switcher, the lines in iMessage no longer flicker. (But you'll now notice the top line in Safari flickering) If you switch back to iMessage and then again enter the app switcher and slide side to side, you'll see the flicker again.

This happens with every single app that draws lines and is forefront, before wanting the app switcher. Apps that are in the background and not forefront do not display flickering.

I don't remember seeing this prior to iOS 9, and I couldn't find any threads on it...but just mentioning it here as it's still present.
That's interesting. I noticed something similar to that but didn't understand why and how it was happening. You should submit a feedback to apple to let them know.
 

Radon87000

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Well Radon I too have one those so called flagship $800 iPhone 6 but mine has ZERO performance hitches. iOS 9.2 and now 9.2.1 beta is flawless in my experience. And I happen to be one of those that is very picky about performance and stability. By the way have you actually extensively used an iPad Pro? I have and must they are absolutely fantastic!
Glad it's working out fine for you but it doesn't for me.Maybe I just have lower lag tolerance
 
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