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iOS 9 vs iOS 8.4.1 unresponsiveness due to input-blocking
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My point has been made in the context of and in relation to that particular discussion that I was referencing (which was reiterated at https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...nresponsiveness.1942001/page-18#post-22530681).
The point is. Last year you might have felt iOS 8 was great and you didn't have issues with it, but many people did. This year you do with iOS 9 but many people don't. It's funny how now that you're wearing the other shoe it's all irrelevant because it was a year ago.
So your point is that it is "interesting how things work out"? Can you please be less ambigous and more precise? Pretend I'm a simpleton.
Point is laid out fairly clearly. Seems like others are getting it just fine. If someone else might not be, not much more can really be done about it, unfortunately.
I think we need to make an important distinction here.
1. Issues that bother people
2. Issues that don't bother people
Last year, the issues didn't bother me that much (though I did recognize their existence, as issues can easily be objectively proven to exist, as was the case with both iOS 8 and iOS 9). That doesn't mean the issues didn't exist. Furthermore, the decline from iOS 7 to iOS 8 was imho much smaller than the decline from iOS 8 to iOS 9.
So I'm not wearing a different shoe. I recognized the issues with iOS 8 and I also recognize the issues with iOS 9. However, I also believe that iOS 8.4.1 was a much better iteration of iOS than 8.0.0. iOS 9 seems to show less improvement. For example, CC and NC were perfectly smooth on 9.2.1 on the iPhone 5 and are very choppy on iOS 9.3 beta 2. It is getting marginally (only marginally) better on the 5s and higher though (biggest improvements are the now fluid CC and multitasking switcher).
Also, I think it's worth nothing that iOS 9 is actually the first time Apple actually promised performance improvements, yet they delivered one of the biggest performance regressions of all time (in my opinion ofcourse, goes without saying). This is also fuel for the discussions.
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For one, I'd rather have a weather app that stutters slightly sometimes over an entire OS that behaves that way. Man, I'd definitely go back to stuttery weather if it meant the rest of the system was fine.
You guys are ridiculous. You'll defend ANYTHING Apple does.
I was once an Apple die hard, but I know when I'm being played and I don't like it.
I honestly don't understand what you are trying to say, and in an effort to keep an open discussion I'm simply asking you to rephrase it in a different way (hopefully more precise and clear). Is that too much to ask?
One of the bigger points in that discussion wasn't about which one was worse but how it's all treated, that when something doesn't affect someone they can be dismissive of it but as soon as there's something that affects them then they can be all over it all the time and are almost bewildered if someone else who isn't affected by it comes off as dismissive of it in one way or another (when they demonstrate the very same exact thing when it comes to something else that they aren't affected by).
It also shows that there are almost always something here or there that someone will be affected by and will turn into a crusade of some sort, it just that that something differs from time to time and affects different people from time to time (from version to version).
Are you a psychologist? You seem to take an above average interest in behavioral psychology.
I really don't think MR is the right place to discuss on how human responses to similar stimuli can vary greatly though.
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I'm not sure what they are trying to say either, fact is iOS9 had significant responsiveness/performance issues over its predecessor while Apple claimed the opposite.
I'm not sure why some people here are trying to downplay the iOS9 issues and the user backlash. No one is saying iOS8.4.1 was perfect, in fact many of us have pointed out the pinacle of responsiveness was in earlier iOSes.
Now, if someone wants to explicitly clarify what they are trying to say, that'd be helpful.
I'm not sure why some people here are trying to downplay the iOS9 issues and the user backlash. No one is saying iOS8.4.1 was perfect, in fact many of us have pointed out the pinacle of responsiveness was in earlier iOSes.
Now, if someone wants to explicitly clarify what they are trying to say, that'd be helpful.
And what would any of that have to do with the topic of this thread? Talk about "sabotaging" the discussion.
The point of the weather app in iOS 8 being brought up is to illustrate that the exact same thing is happening. Last year so many people were so angry and displeased with iOS 8 and the stuttering weather app. People focused on that just as much as people that are now focusing on CC in iOS 9. In every iOS 8 beta thread from 8.0 to 8.4.1 the first couple posts would be "has the weather app lag been fixed?" Just like iOS 9 beta threads are "has the CC lag been fixed?"
For some last year the weather app stutter was just as detrimental and ruined iOS for them as CC does this year.
It's not "defending Apple". It's pointing out no matter what there will always be something that people hyper focus on and claim it to be the end of the world for that particular iOS version.
I edited my post to provide some more context of my observation. I just fail to see how a psychological study on how people react differently to different software increments is relevant to this discussion.
You can't equate lag in 1 app, vs lag GLOBALLY, it's not the same. Furthermore, with iOS9 Apple claimed better responsive performance and it was actually the opposite. Hence your comparison isn't adequate.
Dude, just give up, you have no change with these guys. It s like explaining to a dog that the earth is round and not flat.
The issues are worse this time. One app vs system wide. Also Apple promised improvements, yet they delivered regression. Can't make it any simpler than this.
So talking how people call out others for being dismissive (if not "blind" or something else of that sort) and then do essentially the same thing when they discuss similar issues that others were complaining about simply because they haven't been experiencing them or don't really care about them, that's not worthy of being pointed out? That has been one of the bigger points of contention in all of these types of threads, so it seems like the irony would in fact be something worthwhile to point out and comment on. (Which doesn't have much to do with what you mentioned.)
That's all good and fine. Others feel differently for other reasons. That said, I've been commenting on a different aspect/part of it all.
Unlike some other people, I'm not focusing on control center or spotlight. I hardly use those things as it is. However, I see lag and stutter EVERYWHERE in iOS 9.x. I'm not focusing on one area. I just notice the input blocking and stuttery animations all over the place.
Apple has never been perfect and I know this, but iOS 9 has been the worst OS I've ever seen in regards to animation performance and input blocking. It's like having iOS 8's weather app, but system-wide instead.
Why did Apple feel the need to replace OpenGL with an inferior API? Now what?... Are they going to spend the next few years getting metal to be to the point that OpenGL was in iOS 8?
Apple has never been perfect and I know this, but iOS 9 has been the worst OS I've ever seen in regards to animation performance and input blocking. It's like having iOS 8's weather app, but system-wide instead.
Why did Apple feel the need to replace OpenGL with an inferior API? Now what?... Are they going to spend the next few years getting metal to be to the point that OpenGL was in iOS 8?
iOS 6 - not bad though the "realism" was getting aged. WiFi killer didn't help 
iOS 7 - the "new" look - like something unfinished from a dyslexic schizophrenic via an alternate universe
iOS 8 - hoping for their iOS 7 finished product - nope - it had some serious bugs but did improve over time
iOS 9 - promised speed!!! - slower than iOS 8 with a new slew of OS wide issues and additional bugs
iOS 10 - is the hope gone? When are we going to get an OS that just feckin' works?
btw - for me, the Weather app issue was location. It never gave me the correct local (home) rather one town over - different micro climate. I just iCrapped it and used BeWeather.
btw2 - can we divorce the new iOS married to all devices launch? Just launch for the new hardware and roll out the legacy post optimization.
iOS 7 - the "new" look - like something unfinished from a dyslexic schizophrenic via an alternate universe
iOS 8 - hoping for their iOS 7 finished product - nope - it had some serious bugs but did improve over time
iOS 9 - promised speed!!! - slower than iOS 8 with a new slew of OS wide issues and additional bugs
iOS 10 - is the hope gone?
When are we going to get an OS that just feckin' works?btw - for me, the Weather app issue was location. It never gave me the correct local (home) rather one town over - different micro climate. I just iCrapped it and used BeWeather.
btw2 - can we divorce the new iOS married to all devices launch? Just launch for the new hardware and roll out the legacy post optimization.
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The rumored spring release of the air 3 and 4" iphone model are not married to a new iOS, why cant the same occur with the fall releases?
Public expectation? Brand new major iPhone versions are in a category of their own compared to iPads and any "budget"/"smaller" iPhones (which is a completely new timetable for something rumored anyway, so hard to base much on it given that there's not much of a precedent really).