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iOS 9 vs iOS 8.4.1 unresponsiveness due to input-blocking
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The 6 Plus is the iPad 3 of iPhones.Even on 8.4.1 it had HORRIBLE lags which is part of the reason why I didnt get it.Its a severely underpowered device.There is now a way as shown in the Reddit Jailbreak community to lower the screen rendering of the 6 Plus from 2202X1492 to the native screen res of 1080P which made the phone buttery smooth.Just another example of how the JB Community manages to pull off impressive feats which puts the engineering prowess of Apple to shame.Even this "Night Shift" is 3 year old feature for Cydia users
Same goes for the iPad Air.The Air 2 is what the AIr should have been in the first place.The working life of the Air 2 is nearly twice that of the Air 1 despite there being a gap of only a year between them.But then thats planned obsolesence for ya.Apple cant let a device be too powerful now can it?
It is OK if Apple is complacent to fix their own OS. But if a third party struggles to fix stutters inherited from host OS's APIs, it's a crime.
Unfortunately, now everytime lag & stutter are discussed, Chrome issue will always be brought up as a counter argument.
Deal with it
No, it's not the API, it's bad coding from Google.
I guess what I'm saying is this.
I miss the iOS experience where everything was smooth, fluid and hiccup-free.
I want to get back to those days. That's what I'm talking about when I speak of OS performance.
Why do people keep twisting it around and saying, "yeah but Java is faster". I don't give a crap about Java.
I just want my iPhone and iPad to feel good again and to not look like they're struggling with keeping up with a simple 2D animation.
I miss the iOS experience where everything was smooth, fluid and hiccup-free.
I want to get back to those days. That's what I'm talking about when I speak of OS performance.
Why do people keep twisting it around and saying, "yeah but Java is faster". I don't give a crap about Java.
I just want my iPhone and iPad to feel good again and to not look like they're struggling with keeping up with a simple 2D animation.
Those days are generally the last half or so of the lifecycle of most major versions. With iOS 9 we are getting close to that point basically.
It's the year 2016, I think most of us already expect a 2016 OS to be stable and perform well. This is why I'm not a fan of people justifying all the stuttering etc by saying that safari is now more stable or javascript is more optimized. The look and feel is extremely important, an sluggish OS is just unacceptable.
Going back to the input blocking, after talking about it on this thread so much, I'm starting to notice it everywhere in iOS, I'm noticing how much double/triple tapping I need to do because the OS censors my input. I just wish there was a setting somewhere called "accidental tap prevention" and that I could turn it off. Stop blocking my input!
Going back to the input blocking, after talking about it on this thread so much, I'm starting to notice it everywhere in iOS, I'm noticing how much double/triple tapping I need to do because the OS censors my input. I just wish there was a setting somewhere called "accidental tap prevention" and that I could turn it off. Stop blocking my input!
The point people are making when talking about Safari is that performance isn't and shouldn't only be measured by one area (IE the constant only focusing on frame rate.) Performance consists of many different things and different areas as a whole package. Frame rate performance hasn't been the best but that's just one area of what performance means. It's getting better (9.3 beta has shown the biggest gains in that regard) and will most likely be on par or better than 8.4.1 once iOS 9 is on its final version, just like iOS 8 didn't get better until its final version.
Let me give an example where I noticed it recently, something that I do often: I went to Clock -> Alarm, and tapped edit and immediately tapped on the first alarm, my input didn't register. iOS blocked my input while doing an animation which shows the red buttons. This happens everywhere in iOS all day long.
My daily iOS workflow is choppy because of this, I want a snappy fluid experience, and instead it's full of stops and blockage. I think a lot of people don't notice it because they've gotten used to or trained to wait for animations, or simply tap multiple times until they get to where they need, but it shouldn't be that way.
I want the workflow to be TAP TAP DONE, with iOS I get TAP wait TAP wait DONE.
@trifid, that's what i said after i purchased my 6s. I had a GS4 before and after i bought the 6s i thought that it was a hardware issue with my phone because it doesnt respond at first taps always. I was very dissapointed that i got a defective unit and afraid to return it. I didnt know at that moment that it is a ios 9 problem and not a problem with my phone. Hope it will be fixed in feature updates. It drives me crazy because i cant use the device as fast as i want.
I hope so too, but I'm guessing the powers at be at Apple like it how it is. It's been this way since 9.0 was born.
7.0 had something similar, which got improved in 7.1 (which came a good half a year later), so it's hard to say for sure.
I'm extremely concerned that it will never be fixed at this point, this thread started due to more input blocking going from 8.4.1 to 9, but it actually started earlier, it seems the most fluid iOS was version 3 or 4, and then Apple started adding input blocking to different parts of the OS.
This was posted earlier, but lets be reminded how beautifully fluid and input-blocking-free iOS 3 was in comparison with 8:
Right, this kind of thing has been around since iOS 7 essentially, for years now. It's part of the new/current UI/UX design basically.
I suppose worse in some versions more than others. My air 2, running 8.1 that it came with, was no where near as bad as any version of 9 has been with the input blocking.
If this was the answer to everything, then nothing would ever improve.
Completely and thoroughly disagree. Performance of iOS 8.4.1 remained sh*t on Air 1 and iPhone 6 Plus. They were barely a year old devices. Hope you remember the stuttery Weather app from iOS 8? It stuttered exactly the same from iOS 8.0 to 8.4.1. Finally Apple fixed it in iOS 9.
By the way, my CC and NC both stutter in 9.3 B2 on 6S Plus.
iOS 9 will always have this shi**y performance till it's last breath when it comes to 2014 and older devices. Apple might do a hack-job just to appease 2015 device buyers but that's that.
I was discussing about Apple with my friends and everyone wholeheartedly agreed that iOS experience is not the same polished it once used to be.
I fully remember all the weather app complaints as well as all the 6+ complaints for the entire life of iOS 8. Nearly all of the lag advocates seem have forgotten or ignore it because it's old news and hold 8.4.1 as the pinnacle of excellence. Which is why I said "on par or better" since it has somehow been the bar to reach.
At least I don't hold 8.4.1 as pinnacle of excellence as I suffered on it with Air 1. I got so tired of using Air 1 that I finally gave in to Apple's planned obsolescence and purchased Air 2. The difference between the performance of both was mind boggling! Now the same cycle somewhat repeated on the release of iOS 9.
We should not have to wait 1 year in the hope of getting improved performance. Past records suggest that if performance goes down, it stays down. Never goes up.
I also believe that Windows 7 performed same as Vista. Just that by that time (3 years), hardware and third party drivers improved.
Things improved from 7.0 to 7.2, from 8.0 to 8.2/3/4, and even now from 9.0 to 9.2/3/x.