They should learn how to optimise the stutters from Microsoft.El Capitan on my MacBook has animation stutters at times while on the same hardware,Windows 10 is buttery smooth.Now I know Metal is being used in both OSX and iOS so I can only conclude that Microsoft's Direct X has reached a point where it's superior to Apple's API on lower hardware as wellm
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iOS 9 vs iOS 8.4.1 unresponsiveness due to input-blocking
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You do know that widows video card vendors software implements this stuff and it's crazy how bad some games are when the resolution exceeds the capacity of the cards hardware; frame rates at 5 fps. I stopped playing games a while back but widows isn't perfect either.
That's kinda the point.The OS is made by Microsoft,the GPU by Intel and Nvidia but inspire of different components Windows still manages to have zero stutters even on Apple hardware.It does have hang ups and like coups on budget laptops but the animations are super smooth.
Gaming is an entirely different beast.You need a minimum of a GTX 960 or a AMD R9 380 if you want to even consider gaming.Thats not Windows fault
I think we are now talking about different things. I am talking about the OP issue, topic of this thread. Issue still exists and is no app related.
I've managed to get stutters on Windows and I see it every so often, only because it's in a very obvious often used place, unlike cellular list which I almost never scroll through.
I don't recall my air 2 ever stuttering even with the 8.1 that it shipped with.
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iOS 9 is the first iOS to stutter on even the latest hardware Apple has to offer. That's pretty bad.
Perhaps you just didn't notice it or didn't really care about it at the time (or alternatively not quite recalling it now or caring about it now in hindsight)?
I'm not suggesting IOS 9 is perfect, but that there is a stutter, for example, in the cellular list on my 6s, tells me it's a software fix. Eventually apple will take care of it.
It's funny that iOS 9 is the first to tout performance improvements and yet it's the first iOS to have performance issues on even the fastest iOS devices.
I have a brand new iPad mini 4 and you wouldn't even know by judging the OS animation performance.
You can take what you want from this, but seems like whatever apple touted has been in place since ios 9.0 gm. Performance means different things to different people.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/ios-9-thoroughly-reviewed/8/
It is OK if Apple is complacent to fix their own OS. But if a third party struggles to fix stutters inherited from host OS's APIs, it's a crime.
Unfortunately, now everytime lag & stutter are discussed, Chrome issue will always be brought up as a counter argument.
Deal with it
Probably because that Chrome issue was used as "proof" of iOS 9 being the issue, which turned out not to be the case, and thus in the processes showed something about the "proof" that gets employed by some in this matter.It is OK if Apple is complacent to fix their own OS. But if a third party struggles to fix stutters inherited from host OS's APIs, it's a crime.
Unfortunately, now everytime lag & stutter are discussed, Chrome issue will always be brought up as a counter argument.
Deal with it
Still different thing.It is OK if Apple is complacent to fix their own OS. But if a third party struggles to fix stutters inherited from host OS's APIs, it's a crime.
Unfortunately, now everytime lag & stutter are discussed, Chrome issue will always be brought up as a counter argument.
Deal with it
Chrome cannot be used as an argument for the animation time that everybody has to wait until screen is responsive.
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No.It NEVER EVER lagged on iOS 8.I am telling you,I tried everything on the App Store and try as I might,the Air 2 did not lag.All my Android toting friends used to be stunned at its speed once upon a time
Just like there have been people saying something similar about iOS 9--their experience simply being dismissed as them simply not seeing it and/or not caring about it. Seems like similar rationale would have to apply in this case as well.
Apples marketing material specifically called out smoother animations and scrolling and that's not what we got. Not by a long shot. iOS 8 on OpenGL was stutter-free for my iPhone 5s and then my iPhone 6. As far as animations are concerned, iOS 8 was perfect. I'm not talking about anything else besides animation performance. Stutters look like crap and now 9.3 has made some of my games stutter that didn't before. I can't win.
They also promised better performance and we got it. But I disagree we didn't get something that was better than ios 8. Overall IOS 9 is better than IOS 8, IMHO.
What don't you get about my post. We did NOT get ANY performance improvements AT ALL. Everything in iOS 9 is worse than iOS 8 (in regards to animation frame rates). Also, iOS 9 no longer registers taps mid-animation.
Like I've said multiple times (and for some reason you're still not getting it), I'm NOT talking about system stability. I'm talking ONLY performance. It's been proven many, many times that iOS 8 out performs iOS 9 in almost every aspect. Show me otherwise and I'll shut up. So far there has been lots of proof that iOS 9 is worse but absolutely NO proof that iOS 9 is better.
Again, show me that iOS 9 performs better than iOS 8 and I'll shut up forever.
Seems like what might be in play there is what performance encompasses and means. It's certainly more than just animation framerates, just as smoothness of shifting is not everything when it comes to performance of a car (yeah, yeah, car analogies and all that).
I'm still waiting for someone to show me that iOS 9 is faster than iOS 8.
Also, poor frame rates make the device feel cheap or obsolete. It looks like crap and it doesn't add to the enjoyment of using the device.
My iPad mini 4 is the latest iPad mini, there should be no performance issues with it at all, but it runs like a dog most of the time. It struggles running the OS smoothly, but it's okay during graphic intensive games for some strange reason.
I get what you are saying, but on the other hand you don't get what I am saying. Apple tweaked performance under the hood, that is performance, not system stability. The biggest thing is safari and the javascript engine, which is my biggest use case and a boon to those who spend any time on javascript intensive sites. I spend .5 seconds opening up safari, slower than ios 8 by .25 seconds and then 1 hour in safari. See what I'm saying? I have already posted some benchmarks of 9.0gm. No doubt with 9.3 coming out, it's even better/faster.
Not really true - there were lots of irate threads on here ast year complaining about lag on the iPhone 6/6+ in iOS 8 (e.g. the weather app and some screen rotations).
As has been pointed out, performance is fine running high-end games, but not when doing mundane OS things. It is simply piss-poor optimisation and QC by Apple. I am glad it is this way around (I would rather a few meaningless OS transitions be jerky than app performance be bad), but when you've paid hundreds of $/£s for the latest hardware running an OS that's been touted as being optimised for performance it's not great and something that Apple used to trade on. Whilst iOS 9 hasn't had the bad mainstream press that iOS 8 got, I still don't think it's been a success for them.