So we went from discussing what's happening in this beta back to the general "lag" thing with iOS 9 that has been regurgitated way too much? They made changes that they seemingly working on improving and fixing in cases where there are potential issues. Going back to "why did they have to do it?" and lamenting the olden days won't change anything, as plenty of iOS 7 discussions have shown where various people just couldn't let go why things had to change and couldn't be like they were in iOS 6--consistently bringing it up in thread after thread and basically in the end moving on as nothing about that was going to change what already happened.
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iOS 9 vs iOS 8.4.1 unresponsiveness due to input-blocking
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Just file a bug report if you want them to improve their software. That's why you join the public beta I believe.
Please bear in mind that on larger screen, screen refresh seems less smooth. Every little stutter as well as the difference between perfectly drawn 60fps is just physically bigger.
I booted up my old 3GS on 6.1.6 and it looks like the smoothest device to my eyes, whereas it's the same 60fps as the iPhone 6s - but it seems much, much smoother.
iPad Pro on the other hand looks incredibly choppy all the time.
So...you dont hold Apple responsible for the stunt they pulled?Most apps on the App Store have code which only runs smoothly on OpenGL.Many good apps dont have devs which update it with the newest code.So the end result is a worse experience for the customer.Third party developers cant be expected to keep an eye for these constant code changes Apple does.They dont need to on Android so why should they on iOS?
I have reported Mobile Data Stutter for nearly 6 months now.Nothing changes
What stunt are we taking about? There was nothing related to anything like that in my post that you quoted and replied to.
I guess talking about the same thing in thread after thread (where no one can do anything about it) for six months gets something to change...except as you said apparently nothing changes.
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I mean the part where they changed from OpenGL to Metal (still dont get what was the point of this change other than change for the sake of change with lower performance in general) thereby breaking scrolling and animations on almost any app in the App Store working fine for years.On 9.3 I am getting lesser performance on games than in iOS 9.2.1,I checked.
Again my point was that Apple only fixes bugs which it likes to fix.Certain bugs are ignored,sometimes for years so filing bug reports for such bugs is pointless
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Not necessarily.My iPad Air 2 always felt faster than my iPhone 6 even on 8.4.1 .Same goes for iOS 9
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They changed to improve things and move forward. They might not have gotten something right so they are working on improving it. Fairly typical progression of things with most technology companies that move forward with newer thechnologies.
So if Apple decides what to fix and when, what use is repeatedly regurgitating the same thing over and over in thread after thread for months if it won't affect anything that Apple does and no one here can affect it?
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If you write your feedback to Apple in the same way you post here on these forums I'm sure even Apple has ignored you 5 1/2 months ago.
I would hope for all of us who submit feedback, we all post those with a wee bit more professionalism
I would hope for all of us who submit feedback, we all post those with a wee bit more professionalism
I would hope so too, but probably not likely.
The thing is apple probably has their development priorities. And it may stink that some screens in IOS 9 have a small amount of stutter, I'm betting all that stuff will be cleaned up at some point. No amount of bug reporting, IMO, is going to get apple to fix the cellular settings screen before they have it as a fixlist item.
I agree however things like email and search have been issues either non-stop or off/on since 7 (these are my big 2 atm). It's these that I don't understand. Stutter - it needs to be fixed, should never have been broken, however ... squeaky wheel?
I understand this, some seem not to though. Especially in today's age of people demanding instant gratification. They think that their feedback is of the utmost importance no matter how big or small the issue and want it fixed or a response within minutes of sending off the feedback.
I would love to be able to read the feedback they get for a day. I bet it's a lot of kicking and screaming tantrums over the silliest of things like we see on these forums.
Squeaky wheel to Apple? Sure if someone wants to, that's all and good (although Apple will still do things at their own pace and discretion as we've seen). Squeaky wheel in forums that are user forums and have no influence on Apple or anything like that? That's a different story.
Yea I'd be surprised if anyone that works in the iOS team at Apple ever reads these forums to get any sense of public feedback.
If they supposedly aren't doing much about direct bugs or feedback sent to them via specific channels that they themselves specifically set up for those purposes, then surely forums like these are effectively ineffectual in that respect, especially ehern it comes to just rehashing the same thing over and over.Yea I'd be surprised if anyone that works in the iOS team at Apple ever reads these forums to get any sense of public feedback.
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If Apple doesn't have anyone visit these forums why are there a small percentage of users on iOS 10 visiting these forums
I thought you were getting a Samsung S7 and leaving iPhone. We're you just getting all our hopes up? That's cruel of you.
Why would you get an iPhone 7 when you go on and on about how much better Samsung and Android are?
Gj on not getting the sarcasm
I was saying that as an indication of how long it takes them to fIx an issue.By the time something is fixed the new model is launched
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I think what we have here is...
I want them to fix the lag and frame rate problems, and other people want other things fixed.
Why does it seem like a crime around here to get the performance back that we had with iOS 8? Is that really a lot to ask? It's not like it's because my iPhone is too old either. I have a brand new iPad mini 4 and it stutters and lags on that as well. I'd say my iPad mini 4 is worse on iOS 9.3 than my iPhone 6.
If Apple's NEWEST hardware can't even keep up with iOS 9 then, I'm sorry, but Apple messed up. I even played with an iPad Pro the other day and I still saw the same stutters and drops as my iPad mini 4, but they weren't AS BAD.
My guess is that iOS 9 will be running great JUST a couple months before iOS 10 hits.
I feel like all I'm ever doing these days is waiting for Apple to release an update. I don't even know what I'm going to do with my life once they figure it out... what are we going to talk about once it's working well again?
By the way... just to get this out there... iOS 8.4.1 was NOT the pinnacle of smoothness. It had a major bug in the new music app that made the iPhone slow to a crawl for a few seconds at a time when exiting or entering music.app. However, 8.3 and below were just fine. Also, iOS 7 ran even better than iOS 8 AND had less bugs. Believe me, I'm not making this up. I remember iOS 7 and it was better than iOS 8.
iOS has been getting WORSE with ever iteration. Do they even care anymore?
I want them to fix the lag and frame rate problems, and other people want other things fixed.
Why does it seem like a crime around here to get the performance back that we had with iOS 8? Is that really a lot to ask? It's not like it's because my iPhone is too old either. I have a brand new iPad mini 4 and it stutters and lags on that as well. I'd say my iPad mini 4 is worse on iOS 9.3 than my iPhone 6.
If Apple's NEWEST hardware can't even keep up with iOS 9 then, I'm sorry, but Apple messed up. I even played with an iPad Pro the other day and I still saw the same stutters and drops as my iPad mini 4, but they weren't AS BAD.
My guess is that iOS 9 will be running great JUST a couple months before iOS 10 hits.
I feel like all I'm ever doing these days is waiting for Apple to release an update. I don't even know what I'm going to do with my life once they figure it out... what are we going to talk about once it's working well again?
By the way... just to get this out there... iOS 8.4.1 was NOT the pinnacle of smoothness. It had a major bug in the new music app that made the iPhone slow to a crawl for a few seconds at a time when exiting or entering music.app. However, 8.3 and below were just fine. Also, iOS 7 ran even better than iOS 8 AND had less bugs. Believe me, I'm not making this up. I remember iOS 7 and it was better than iOS 8.
iOS has been getting WORSE with ever iteration. Do they even care anymore?
Oh noes poor multi-billion-company Apple, getting heat for advertising iOS9 as "more responsive performance" luring users to upgrade and then locking them out so they can't downgrade to iOS8.4.1 hijacking our expensive Apple devices which we paid with well earned money. How dare us bother Apple with mundane complaints? Please.
If you sell an expensive product and put out false-advertising and then lock out users so they can't downgrade, and if you value user experience like Apple does, expect feedback and lots of it.
Instant gratification? It's 2016, I want a responsive user interface, and if for some reason Apple is inept to deliver it at least let me downgrade to 8.4.1, is that too much to ask?
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