Yes, that's one way of using that top heavy device, only when it tilts over, by trying to catch it, one might simply knock the tablet off. There's that danger.
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iPad as a laptop replacement
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Yeah, in the end I don't find it a great lap device but I've never cared for a laptop in my lap, either. My laptop is a desktop and my desktop is an under the desk.
True. I cannot use any tablet or laptop on my lap as after a while my neck aches. Even the tablets are used only on the desk, or on the kitchen table.
Why do you keep harping on about it then? Apple could make the most magically ergonomically designed iPad keyboard and you’d still complain about your neck
Let’s pan back. It’s not just FCP. It’s most things are limited in iOS and iPadOS.
But that’s more to do with developers, because I just stated that DaVinci and Affinity has no issue porting over desktop-level apps to iPadOS.
I understand your argument that things are limited on iPadOS compared to macOS… and that’s true, because it’s a more of an open system vs closed and the fact that devs get charged a 30% fee when publishing their apps to iPadOS.
But the idea that desktop-level apps cannot be added to iPadOS because of battery life and thermals is not true.
Multi-tasking is limited in iOS and iPadOS. Developers have no choice for some things. I’m not saying Developers can’t do better. But iPadOS and iOS aggressively limit background processes and that is imposed at an operating system level. macOS is in many respects unlimited in this regard.
The limitations in iPadOS have little to do with heat dissipation and thermal problems. That is always a factor and always have been. But that is true for all devices. Even the biggest MBP WITH fans gets hot like crazy when you push it with Video/3D tasks. The thing is, of course an iPad (and we're only talking Pro here, not a Mini) would be an MBA light. And every user would know that. I do not use the MBA for Tasks I use the studio for and even with lighter stuff like Photoshop I do not expect the same behavior. (Apart from the fact that I suspect the iPad would be quite good at 3D and Video given the M4 ;.).
But with iPad you cannot do even the most basic stuff - and that has zero to do with CPU/GPU-heat. Editing a playlist, saving images from a website, selecting multiple items, tagging files on a SMB share ... these and so. much. more are all just limitations imposed on the hardware by an OPS that basically is iOS deluxe. No one expects the iPad to be a MacPro. Man, but it would be nice to have the easy and fluidity with which I handle everyday stuff on Mac PLUS the marvelous touch friendly behavior of the iPad. And the problem is to want that and to deliver that as a company for a device that costs twice as much as an MBA. It will not eat into Mac Sales, as Macs will be cheaper and at that range you buy an iPad AND (probably more than one) Mac. By the same argument, the current iPad would eat into iPhone sales, or the AVP into iPad sales. It is an ecosphere – making every element of it the very best it could be is a sum positive for Apple. Being able to attach MKB and maybe a mouse and have a MacOS-like experience without compromises like Stage Manager AND be able to read/watch movies/surf as with the iPad we all know and love is the way to go. Nothing should and would be lost from the iPad Experience (it will not be a Macbook), but the hyperexpensive M4 Pros would gain a new facet of usability.
But with iPad you cannot do even the most basic stuff - and that has zero to do with CPU/GPU-heat. Editing a playlist, saving images from a website, selecting multiple items, tagging files on a SMB share ... these and so. much. more are all just limitations imposed on the hardware by an OPS that basically is iOS deluxe. No one expects the iPad to be a MacPro. Man, but it would be nice to have the easy and fluidity with which I handle everyday stuff on Mac PLUS the marvelous touch friendly behavior of the iPad. And the problem is to want that and to deliver that as a company for a device that costs twice as much as an MBA. It will not eat into Mac Sales, as Macs will be cheaper and at that range you buy an iPad AND (probably more than one) Mac. By the same argument, the current iPad would eat into iPhone sales, or the AVP into iPad sales. It is an ecosphere – making every element of it the very best it could be is a sum positive for Apple. Being able to attach MKB and maybe a mouse and have a MacOS-like experience without compromises like Stage Manager AND be able to read/watch movies/surf as with the iPad we all know and love is the way to go. Nothing should and would be lost from the iPad Experience (it will not be a Macbook), but the hyperexpensive M4 Pros would gain a new facet of usability.
FileBrowser is absolutely great. But then again, if you have an app which needs to access external storage and you as a developer do not want to write the required code from the ground up, you have to mount anything external via Apple’s Files. No way around it.
Take for example Nitro: excellent software and if you want to manage your photos yourself outside Apple Photos, it allows for that. Via Apple’s Files. In accordance with Apple’s Developer guidelines. And that’s when you are occasionally in for a world of… patience at best, and unreliability at worst (e.g. when trying to use the DAM with a NAS).
Not sure it was linked here already, but IMHO Frederico Vittici has written a nice summary on the state of iPadOS - at least I can, and from the post of many here probably not only me, this time fully agree with him.
I can do these things on my iPad, and so much more. What the heck are you talking about?
Nov. 2021 I got my M1 iPP 11. Got an Apple Pencil and a Logitech Combo Touch and started using the iPad as a replacement for my 2019 16" i9 MBP for my real estate business. A month in and I sold my MBP and bought a M1 Mac Mini. The iPad totally replaced my MBP for my mobile needs. and I've never looked back. The iPad and Mac Mini together cost less than my MBP, so I made out $$ wise also.
My mobile needs are covered with my iPP. I love using it, I love the workflow it gives me for my real estate work, I love that it's just fun to use. Also love that it replaced two other things I need for my work...camera, and scanner. I could replace my MBP with my tablet computer, but there is no way a MBP could replace my iPP for the work I do. There are things a laptop just cannot do....like turn to portrait orientation, take photos, scan documents, sketching property and house dimensions, filling and signing contracts, pdf's, and documents, marking up pdf's, etc.
Adding a battery to the bottom part of the MKB would help the balance, and extend the run-time of the attached iPad...
>What the heck are you talking about?
You can select multiple tracks at once, with tracks omissed etc in Apple Music Playlists?
You can go into DevMode on a website and get the the images, of, say, IMDB, even if you cannot via their frontend?
You can change the color of a green tag to orange on a network SMB drive (because I cannot
. You can use imageoptim on 300+ images, batch rename them with Forklift and upload them to FTP without using three different tools? And these are just small things, I am not talking about Cinema4D or AdobeCC.
I am superhappy to hear that your needs are covered, bc needs are very different. I know people that only use an iPhone/Android and never anything else bc their life is basically writing and communications. My life is a bit different & I could use a small machine that is able to be a bit more productive than just a Kindle for 3000+€ ;-)
Also, change orientation of an image: Even in finder, on MacOS. Scan documents, with every scanner (leading to better results and faster scans, if you do it regularly, e.g. with the Fuji-Scansnaps), signing Documents is quite easy, as is marking up PDFs – and if it needs a drawing, you do it (badly) either by mouse or with a Wacom.
But this is not about one OR the other. I like iPadOS – it's just time, technically, to move ahead and let the bigger iPads really roar. An iPad that can, say, handle Indesign with MKB, will not suddenly magically loose the touch or pencil abilities. It might even bring some of those to apps that are better at actually producing media than just consuming it.
It might be fun.
I am convinced more than ever after this WWDC that Apple is perfectly content with keeping the iPad in its intermediate category between the iPhone and the Mac, and has no desire to have it serve as a desktop or laptop replacement.
Most of the AI features displayed were also available on the iPhone, and the iPad specific features like handwriting or math notes improvements are useful only if you have an iPad and a pencil.
This is perfectly fine if you intend to use the iPad as a tablet. It neglects the most the users who would like to have the 13 inch iPad and Magic Keyboard combination as replacements for MacBooks. But I think we should accept that this is Apple’s vision for the foreseeable future.
Most of the AI features displayed were also available on the iPhone, and the iPad specific features like handwriting or math notes improvements are useful only if you have an iPad and a pencil.
This is perfectly fine if you intend to use the iPad as a tablet. It neglects the most the users who would like to have the 13 inch iPad and Magic Keyboard combination as replacements for MacBooks. But I think we should accept that this is Apple’s vision for the foreseeable future.
>as replacements for MacBooks
Not replacement, enhancement ;°).
Not replacement, enhancement ;°).
More on this thought. Maybe it is the Magic Keyboard that is confusing many users — instead of giving up the iPad + MK unit entirely if it cannot replace their laptops, maybe those users should give up just their Magic Keyboards instead, and continue using the iPad as the tablet Apple seems intent on keeping it as is.
From the reports, looks like they poured their resources into AI so any other core system features are probably on pause. Great changes to core apps though, even if you’re not convinced about using the AI stuff.
Actually thought the virtual iPhone on Mac was the prelude to MacOS on iPad. 😂
Still, would have liked to see at least some refinements on Stage Manager and Files presented. Maybe those are still in the wings and won’t know until we see the beta.
Actually thought the virtual iPhone on Mac was the prelude to MacOS on iPad. 😂
Still, would have liked to see at least some refinements on Stage Manager and Files presented. Maybe those are still in the wings and won’t know until we see the beta.
I'd like to think that users who decided on replacing their MacBooks with a 13 inch iPad and MKB... have already done their due diligence on what they expect out of it. And because you think iPadOS 18 was a letdown.. should not be a referendum on those who have opted to use their iPad as a laptop replacement.
Thanks for posting this. I have been using RAW Power and waiting for this update to move out of Beta.FileBrowser is absolutely great. But then again, if you have an app which needs to access external storage and you as a developer do not want to write the required code from the ground up, you have to mount anything external via Apple’s Files. No way around it.
Take for example Nitro: excellent software and if you want to manage your photos yourself outside Apple Photos, it allows for that. Via Apple’s Files. In accordance with Apple’s Developer guidelines. And that’s when you are occasionally in for a world of… patience at best, and unreliability at worst (e.g. when trying to use the DAM with a NAS).
Not sure it was linked here already, but IMHO Frederico Vittici has written a nice summary on the state of iPadOS - at least I can, and from the post of many here probably not only me, this time fully agree with him.
I wouldn’t say people are any closer to their laptop replacement after that WWDC. I’ve no idea what’s going on with this product anymore.
That's how I feel as well. I didn't see a single announcement that would enhance the iPad as a laptop replacement. I don't think Apple is addressing the issue of the screen being on despite being docked and outputting to a monitor.