Sounds like it rushed design flaw from Apple. This is what happens when a manufacturer is so obsessed about just making a device thinner and nothing else.
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iPad Pro iPad Pro 13” M4 is here! Photos and impressions thread
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Not sure if you looked at my replied to this post... but Apple actually designed the Magic Keyboard to prevent this.
Yes I saw that. Unfortunately that's not going to do anything, there's barely anything there. The lip should be raised at least a couple inches above the surface.
I have put one on mine 2 reasons:
- I have kids, there is no way on this planet they will not scratch it
- I don’t like the “dragging” feeling when drawing on the (unprotected) screen, where there is a clear bit and then a finger print/mark. It’s only subtle but I do notice it. So I have gone for a paper like type protector.
For the first time ever I’m not bothering. Feels so much better without. I used to put PaperLike on but no more. Love the feel without a protector.
I was hoping it would be brighter with colors and brightness honestly
I see it on mine but I worry that when I travel and it's in my bag the top of the screen will rub against the bottom of the palm rests. The clearance is micro small and the slightest pressure they make contact.
This is my 13” vs my 11” m1. The 13” is so much brighter. I am not a big fan of this magic keyboard either, iPad OS is not very good with a trackpad imho and I dont like a round mouse pointer. I have ordered the 11” but currently I am keeping the 13”, I love the more square display form and the full size screen keyboard with numerical keys and copy paste etc. This is after 30 minutes of use in the sun and 23C degrees:
that looks pretty substantial ! Nice
A couple of inches? Um...no.
If adding a screen protector alleviates your concerns... then by all means, go for it. I'm just letting you know that Apple have placed preventative measures to avoid the screen contacting the Magic Keyboard (palm rest area).
And I travel with my iPad everywhere I go, and I don't plan on buying a screen protector (definitely purchasing Apple Care though).
I always use a screen protector with mine. Various reasons but as someone who worked servicing Apple devices previously I have seen so much happen to them it’s worth it to me. As is AppleCare+.
I have an ESR screen protector. Installation was a breeze with their tray and it doesn’t take away from the quality at all.
I’m conscious that I’ve been using a Magic Keyboard for a total of a day and a half and I’m talking to people who have been using one for years, so other people probably thought of this wayyy before I did, but…
Have you tried tilting the main hinge forward so that the iPad touches the back of the keyboard, instead of floating a few centimetres above it? Like so:
I’ve started doing it and it’s made the setup feel a lot more balanced.
I replaced my wife’s 1TB M2 11” iPad Pro and my 1TB M2 12.9” iPad Pro with the new versions of each (bumped up to 2TB for mine); here is my general takeaway - it’s all about the accessories and dimensions for me; all about the new screen for her. Front-facing camera for both of us.
Coming from the 12.9” mini-LED screen, this new one isn’t that jaw-droppingly different, in my opinion. It’s better, sure, and objectively a more contrasty and brighter image, but upgrading simply on the screen would be a terribly difficult justification for me. It’s better by any measure, but minimally so. The brightness boost is appreciated, though - that’ll be useful. Using the tablet sans case/folio, the decrease in thickness and weight is substantial, especially when holding for prolonged periods of time. I can confirm that, even though thinner, mine feels more sturdy and rigid in hand than my 12.9”, which had a bit of a warp to it.
For her, since the 11” never got the mini-LED treatment, the screen improvement is quite literally night and day. The changes in size/weight dimensions for the 11” are rather negligible.
As someone who uses the Smart Keyboard daily, as well as the Apple Pencil, those upgrades (although upsetting a bit that they required a new tablet to utilize) were Day 1 “must haves” for me, and are substantially better across the board in every way compared to their predecessors - from materials (keyboard) to functionality (both). The only thing I utilize daily for work more often than the Smart Keyboard/Pencil combo is the front-facing camera. For my current use case (aside from the occasional book/article reading in portrait mode), the new camera placement alone was worth the price of admission. It’s a game-changer for my work collaboration and client meetings; my wife lives on FaceTime with her family, so it’s an immediate improvement for her as well.
All in all, although Apple’s trade-in value for our “older” tablets was rather paltry (I didn’t feel like being bothered with finding a buyer and going through all of that), I’m very happy with my decision. Between the Military Program pricing, and the trade-ins, I didn’t come out too bad - and I fully intend on keeping these for at least 3-4 years or longer (unless we’re all shocked… SHOCKED, I say… with the next few rounds of WWDC introducing something that can/will truly tax these things computationally). I’ll see how I feel around July, when the “new new” feeling has completely dissipated.
Coming from the 12.9” mini-LED screen, this new one isn’t that jaw-droppingly different, in my opinion. It’s better, sure, and objectively a more contrasty and brighter image, but upgrading simply on the screen would be a terribly difficult justification for me. It’s better by any measure, but minimally so. The brightness boost is appreciated, though - that’ll be useful. Using the tablet sans case/folio, the decrease in thickness and weight is substantial, especially when holding for prolonged periods of time. I can confirm that, even though thinner, mine feels more sturdy and rigid in hand than my 12.9”, which had a bit of a warp to it.
For her, since the 11” never got the mini-LED treatment, the screen improvement is quite literally night and day. The changes in size/weight dimensions for the 11” are rather negligible.
As someone who uses the Smart Keyboard daily, as well as the Apple Pencil, those upgrades (although upsetting a bit that they required a new tablet to utilize) were Day 1 “must haves” for me, and are substantially better across the board in every way compared to their predecessors - from materials (keyboard) to functionality (both). The only thing I utilize daily for work more often than the Smart Keyboard/Pencil combo is the front-facing camera. For my current use case (aside from the occasional book/article reading in portrait mode), the new camera placement alone was worth the price of admission. It’s a game-changer for my work collaboration and client meetings; my wife lives on FaceTime with her family, so it’s an immediate improvement for her as well.
All in all, although Apple’s trade-in value for our “older” tablets was rather paltry (I didn’t feel like being bothered with finding a buyer and going through all of that), I’m very happy with my decision. Between the Military Program pricing, and the trade-ins, I didn’t come out too bad - and I fully intend on keeping these for at least 3-4 years or longer (unless we’re all shocked… SHOCKED, I say… with the next few rounds of WWDC introducing something that can/will truly tax these things computationally). I’ll see how I feel around July, when the “new new” feeling has completely dissipated.
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It is much easier to open if you lift from the side rather than the front. one finger on each side near the front and it lifts open very easily.
My mind is blown trying this with my M1 12.9. Awkward angle though but never tried it.
I’m sitting outside in the morning sun with my iPad Pro 13 and I’m astounded by the readability of the screen with polarised sun glasses on. This is the first time I can clearly read a tablet with these glasses on. It even works in either orientation which the Samsung Tabs cannot do. It’s so bright and clear.
It’s a beautiful day here in Surfers Paradise too, might head to the beach.
It’s a beautiful day here in Surfers Paradise too, might head to the beach.
Sounds great, hey, its a beautiful day even in SwedenI’m sitting outside in the morning sun with my iPad Pro 13 and I’m astounded by the readability of the screen with polarised sun glasses on. This is the first time I can clearly read a tablet with these glasses on. It even works in either orientation which the Samsung Tabs cannot do. It’s so bright and clear.
It’s a beautiful day here in Surfers Paradise too, might head to the beach.
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I wouldn’t recommend it tho. It’s quite noticeable when on, I have one on my older IPP that is barely noticeable but I can’t remember which one it was!!
Think I will leave this one on until more come out with reviews.
It isn't brighter though. They both do 1000 nits total screen and 1600 nit area brightness.