iPad Pro iPad Pro and IOS 13 what's on your list?

[Dave245]

Don't agree on this. A mouse is useful when connecting to (and using) an external display. Also when doing remote desktop into a mac or pc, although for that a (relatively expensive) solution already exists.

You could buy a Mac mini, the iPad is a tablet device that can do things the Mac can't (such as note taking with Apple Pencil) and the Mac is a full computer that can do things the iPad can't. I don't think giving the iPad mouse or trackpad support would be a good experience.

 

[Digitalguy]

You could buy a Mac mini, the iPad is a tablet device that can do things the Mac can't (such as note taking with Apple Pencil) and the Mac is a full computer that can do things the iPad can't. I don't think giving the iPad mouse or trackpad support would be a good experience.

I don't try to turn my ipads into my main machine, although I use them a lot (my working machines are windows devices as I need windows programs to work and I also have a macbook air). But some people try to do that and in that case an external display could make sense.
For me mouse would mainly be useful for remote desktop (I do it regularly as my LTE ipads are my on the go devices) and using citrix is pretty expensive. Also sometimes I would like to have a mouse in the kitchen to keep my ipad clean...
Anyway remember that Apple is porting ipad apps to mac, so mouse support for them is coming. That may open the way to it coming to ipad too in a couple of years.

 

[EugW]

You could buy a Mac mini, the iPad is a tablet device that can do things the Mac can't (such as note taking with Apple Pencil) and the Mac is a full computer that can do things the iPad can't. I don't think giving the iPad mouse or trackpad support would be a good experience.

It would be an excellent experience if done right, and it’s not actually hard to do right.

 

[Dave245]

I don't try to turn my ipads into my main machine, although I use them a lot (my working machines are windows devices as I need windows programs to work and I also have a macbook air). But some people try to do that and in that case an external display could make sense.
For me mouse would mainly be useful for remote desktop (I do it regularly as my LTE ipads are my on the go devices) and using citrix is pretty expensive. Also sometimes I would like to have a mouse in the kitchen to keep my ipad clean...
Anyway remember that Apple is porting ipad apps to mac, so mouse support for them is coming. That may open the way to it coming to ipad too in a couple of years.

It will be interesting to see where Apple takes it, even MacOS features are starting to think of IOS devices (like you mentioned) Marzipan will be a great thing i think. Also there is rumoured to be this feature in the next MacOS update.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/16/a...eature-to-use-your-ipad-as-extra-mac-display/

being able to use your iPad as an extra display for the Mac would be a great idea. It certainly seems that Apple are bringing the Mac and iPad closer together. Personally i don't see the iPad replacing the Mac for Pro users. I prefer to use my iPad Pro for drawing, photo editing in Pixelmator Pro and laying some games. I also like to use my Mac for similar things, the only exception is that i prefer the Mac for long writing sessions.
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It would be an excellent experience if done right, and it’s not actually hard to do right.

I disagree, i think the iPad was created for touch and the Mac for mouse and trackpad support. This notion that you can have both in one device, to me at least is a bad idea. My personal experience with the Surface Pro 6, tells me it's a bad idea. There are some people calling for it and i can see why, but i do see (after some experience) why Apple keep the Mac and iPad as separate devices. Many people own both devices anyway (i do as well) and like to use each one based on their own merit and what i'm doing at that time.

I think with IOS 13, Apple will move the iPad closer to being more of a computer replacement for a lot of people, but i don't see it being that computer replacement for everyone including the Pro users (except those that do graphic design). Video editors for example will still need to use a Mac.

 

[EugW]

I disagree, i think the iPad was created for touch and the Mac for mouse and trackpad support. This notion that you can have both in one device, to me at least is a bad idea. My personal experience with the Surface Pro 6, tells me it's a bad idea. There are some people calling for it and i can see why, but i do see (after some experience) why Apple keep the Mac and iPad as separate devices. Many people own both devices anyway (i do as well) and like to use each one based on their own merit and what i'm doing at that time.

I think with IOS 13, Apple will move the iPad closer to being more of a computer replacement for a lot of people, but i don't see it being that computer replacement for everyone including the Pro users (except those that do graphic design). Video editors for example will still need to use a Mac.

A Surface 6 is not an iPad, and mouse support ALREADY works reasonably well in Citrix applications, which has its own Bluetooth mouse that works. It also works well enough on Android, although it would benefit from some tweaks.

The problem with Surface 6 is basically they took Windows and tried to make it into a tablet OS, with resulting compromises. This is the exact opposite of what is happening on iPad.

 

[rowspaxe]

Yes. I wait. Because it's available but not good enough. My standards seem to be much higher than average. (Bluetooth truly wireless I will be waiting a long time for example..)
For now, I use a Wacom on PC and Note 8

Well put-- I found the best work flow is using an ipad with a laptop, rather than trying to marry pen functionality into a laptop. Apple icloud works very well now and certain apps can save directly to the cloud without exporting (sketchbook, oneNote), which can provide a very seamless experience even with a windows pc.

I do a lot of math and science and I found the ability to notate/diagram while looking at a laptop screen is much better experience than trying to multitask on one device. This also solves some major ios deficits--like wonky cut and paste and no mouse.

With the 10.5 ringing in @ $500, you could have a super light ipad/surface 6 combo rig for
about $1500. I really like surface because it has an ipad like 4:3 aspect ratio and is super light.

Finally, students should check out the ti-nspire cas for ios--great calculator!

 

[Dave245]

A Surface 6 is not an iPad, and mouse support ALREADY works reasonably well in Citrix applications, which has its own Bluetooth mouse that works. It also works well enough on Android, although it would benefit from some tweaks.

The problem with Surface 6 is basically they took Windows and tried to make it into a tablet OS, with resulting compromises. This is the exact opposite of what is happening on iPad.

The problem with the Surface (at least for me) is Windows! the hardware is pretty neat (those bezels need slimming down). I've been spoilt by MacOS and even IOS (which is why i don't get along with Android). Windows 10 on the Surface Pro 6 just isn't as good as MacOS or even IOS (again in my opinion). The Surface Pro 6 that i had would freeze when scrolling the screen, stutter when using the Surface Pen and it just didn't look or feel as good as MacOS.

I think by putting mouse support on the iPad it would take the iPad in a direction i don't think Apple need to go. In my opinion it's very simple:

iPad is for touch - you want to draw, editing photos, take notes, play the odd game? iPad is for you
Mac is for mouse/trackpad - you want to use a mouse for fine point video editing? LONG writing sessions? the Mac is for you.

 

[The Samurai]

The problem with the Surface (at least for me) is Windows! the hardware is pretty neat (those bezels need slimming down). I've been spoilt by MacOS and even IOS (which is why i don't get along with Android). Windows 10 on the Surface Pro 6 just isn't as good as MacOS or even IOS (again in my opinion). The Surface Pro 6 that i had would freeze when scrolling the screen, stutter when using the Surface Pen and it just didn't look or feel as good as MacOS.

I think by putting mouse support on the iPad it would take the iPad in a direction i don't think Apple need to go. In my opinion it's very simple:

iPad is for touch - you want to draw, editing photos, take notes, play the odd game? iPad is for you
Mac is for mouse/trackpad - you want to use a mouse for fine point video editing? LONG writing sessions? the Mac is for you.

It absolutely makes sense, especially given they now have a secondary display option and some apps are optimised to have something different running on an external display.

Should they do mouse support throughout - no, but rather for those apps that really could do with it i.e.movie editing and photoshop.

 

[rowspaxe]

I'm on my 3rd iPad and they have all had the touchscreen glitch. I'll be on my 4th iPad. How can apple make money when they have to supply 4 iPads for 1 iPad sale, assuming I won't need a 5th.

I find this curious--I have never seen a thread here about touch problems until this week. Is this a thing now?

 

[Digitalguy]

I don't think mouse support would be a huge improvement for ipad, though as I said, it would be a positive development, definitely not something that would detract from the current situation and that can be useful in some instances.
I think a better file system would be a more important feature, as the current one makes using files slower than on mac/pc. Also the ability to use extensions in browsers would help a lot.
Macs for me have 1 (or rather 2 for the new ones) dealbreakers as on the go devices.
1. No LTE. Tethering is always a much inferior experience, connection speed is slower (I have done tests), sometimes if the signal is low it just does not work (while LTE still works) and it destroys battery life on the phone.
2. The unreliable butterfly keyboard on the new macs (reason enough for me to use a 2013 macbook air 11 instead of the new macbook 12, let alone lack of ports).
So my ipad pro and ipad mini 5 both have LTE and both have the best keyboards I could find and if I really need to do work and cannot have internet on the go (flight etc.) I have a surface clone with LTE (by HP).

 

[EugW]

The problem with the Surface (at least for me) is Windows! the hardware is pretty neat (those bezels need slimming down). I've been spoilt by MacOS and even IOS (which is why i don't get along with Android). Windows 10 on the Surface Pro 6 just isn't as good as MacOS or even IOS (again in my opinion). The Surface Pro 6 that i had would freeze when scrolling the screen, stutter when using the Surface Pen and it just didn't look or feel as good as MacOS.

I think by putting mouse support on the iPad it would take the iPad in a direction i don't think Apple need to go. In my opinion it's very simple:

iPad is for touch - you want to draw, editing photos, take notes, play the odd game? iPad is for you
Mac is for mouse/trackpad - you want to use a mouse for fine point video editing? LONG writing sessions? the Mac is for you.

The iPad 12.9” would be excellent for long typing sessions. In fact, it has a True Tone enabled screen that is vastly superior to the 12” MacBook and 13” MacBook Air screens. As for the keyboard, there are several full size keyboard options, including Apple’s own Smart Keyboard, any Bluetooth keyboard, and even any USB keyboard.

Also, the 2017 and 2018 iPad Pros are excellent video editors, with the 2018 models having similar raw performance to the 15” MacBook Pros, and the 2017 models superior in many ways to the MacBooks and MacBook Airs. The thing is it appears Apple designed its SoC specifically to handle video editing workloads among other things, whereas on Intel Apple is using general purpose CPUs and is having to fight with its own legacy designs in Final Cut.

Put it this way: According to many video editors, while Final Cut on a Mac is more powerful in some ways and is entrenched for editing big and medium sized movies, video editing on an iPad Pro can be much more efficient, especially. for smaller shoots when time is key, so much so that some who have switched from a iMac/MacBook Pro to an iPad Pro have changed their advertised turnaround times from two days to one day.

At this point the two major missing features for a complete package in an iPad Pro is robust external storage support and mouse/trackpad support.

 

[Dave245]

The iPad 12.9” would be excellent for long typing sessions. In fact, it has a True Tone enabled screen that is vastly superior to the 12” MacBook and 13” MacBook Air screens. As for the keyboard, there are several full size keyboard options, including Apple’s own Smart Keyboard, any Bluetooth keyboard, and even any USB keyboard.

Also, the 2017 and 2018 iPad Pros are excellent video editors, with the 2018 models having similar raw performance to the 15” MacBook Pros, and the 2017 models superior in many ways to the MacBooks and MacBook Airs. The thing is it appears Apple designed its SoC specifically to handle video editing workloads among other things, whereas on Intel Apple is using general purpose CPUs and is having to fight with its own legacy designs in Final Cut.

Put it this way: According to many video editors, while Final Cut on a Mac is more powerful in some ways and is entrenched for editing big and medium sized movies, video editing on an iPad Pro can be much more efficient, especially. for smaller shoots when time is key, so much so that some who have switched from a iMac/MacBook Pro to an iPad Pro have changed their advertised turnaround times from two days to one day.

At this point the two major missing features for a complete package in an iPad Pro is robust external storage support and mouse/trackpad support.

Don’t get me wrong, I love my iPad Pro I use it daily. But I also like to use a Mac, the OS to me is great. I like the fact that the iPad Pro can do more, it seems with each iteration it gets better and better.

The fact that the new iPad Pro is as fast as some 15” MacBook Pro’s (depending on configuration) is VERY impressive! the problem is I think it’s held back from
using that power with a lack of apps and IOS features. I would love it if Apple brought out a touch version of Final Cut X.

I have made a thread about getting the new iPad Pro, at least in the short term (until they fix the keyboard) to replace my usage of the MacBook Pro I was using before. But I’m not sure if the new iPad Pro is worth the upgrade from my current 2017 one?

 

[EugW]

Don’t get me wrong, I love my iPad Pro I use it daily. But I also like to use a Mac, the OS to me is great. I like the fact that the iPad Pro can do more, it seems with each iteration it gets better and better.

The fact that the new iPad Pro is as fast as some 15” MacBook Pro’s (depending on configuration) is VERY impressive! the problem is I think it’s held back from
using that power with a lack of apps and IOS features. I would love it if Apple brought out a touch version of Final Cut X.

I have made a thread about getting the new iPad Pro, at least in the short term (until they fix the keyboard) to replace my usage of the MacBook Pro I was using before. But I’m not sure if the new iPad Pro is worth the upgrade from my current 2017 one?

LumaFusion is what Apple used to edit the new iPad Pro commercials.

LumaFusion 2 comes out later this year and supports export to Final Cut, so I’m not sure Apple will necessarily feel the need to create a touch version of Final Cut any time soon.

For photo editing, Apple created Aperture to fill a void. Then Adobe created Lightroom to compete and eventually Apple killed off Aperture (and replaced it with the consumer-centric Photos).

For video editing, the void has already been filled by LumaTouch with LumaFusion.

 

[Dave245]

LumaFusion is what Apple used to edit the new iPad Pro commercials.

LumaFusion 2 comes out later this year and supports export to Final Cut, so I’m not sure Apple will necessarily feel the need to create a touch version of Final Cut any time soon.

For photo editing, Apple created Aperture to fill a void. Then Adobe created Lightroom to compete and eventually Apple killed off Aperture (and replaced it with the consumer-centric Photos).

For video editing, the void has already been filled by LumaTouch with LumaFusion.

Interesting, I didn’t know LumaFusion 2 was a thing. I use Pixelmator Pro on my iPad Pro, it’s very good. I have thought about getting the Pixelmator Photo app as well, but if they do the same thing it’s pointless.
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LumaFusion is what Apple used to edit the new iPad Pro commercials.

LumaFusion 2 comes out later this year and supports export to Final Cut, so I’m not sure Apple will necessarily feel the need to create a touch version of Final Cut any time soon.

You are right, I’ve just watched this video on the site and it’s very interesting. Being able to carry on a video edit within Final Cut Pro is a great little feature.

https://momofilmfest.com/new-lumafusion-2-0/

It’s got me thinking now would this work better than getting a MacBook Air to edit on.

 

[macduke]

I don't care how we get there, but I just want them to reduce the friction of using the iPad to get work done. I want them to do like they are supposedly doing with the Mac Pro and bring in a bunch of professional designers, illustrators, videographers, photographers, web/app developers and even business people who put together complex presentations and collaborate a lot on projects—and have them showcase their workflows and the pain points of using an iPad to accomplish these tasks.

For a short time I didn't have a Mac at home between giving my old 2012 rMBP to my grandpa and getting my new 2019 5K iMac. I forgot to bring my 2015 MBP from work home and one of my kids came down sick. I usually work from home so I decided to use my iPad for the day. I primarily do web design and development with photography being a lesser, secondary job. The thing is fine for photography but I didn't have anything that needed edited that day. The problem is with web design and development. I could do some design, and I might have been faster at it if I was used to using touch for design, but things like development are nearly impossible. I have Coda on there but I couldn't run something like CodeKit to compile dependencies in the background. I couldn't run my local development server that runs off a Dropbox directory to test anything. Moving around between apps is so much clunkier. Even the most basic parts of my job, such as updating content in WordPress, is a lot more difficult on the iPad. Just trying to navigate the interface in Safari and attach photos to pages and other basic things was a pain and doesn't work the same as it does on the desktop. Like trying to get a PDF out of an email and into WordPress I have to mess with trying to save it somewhere and can't just drag and drop it over.

Anyway, that's where I'm at. I can do parts of things okay, especially photo editing, but it's just not there for me. I can do all of these tasks on a Mac probably 15-20X faster—even though my work MBP is slower than my 2018 iPad Pro 12.9". Even the bigger display doesn't help much with this.

 

[EugW]

Interesting, I didn’t know LumaFusion 2 was a thing. I use Pixelmator Pro on my iPad Pro, it’s very good. I have thought about getting the Pixelmator Photo app as well, but if they do the same thing it’s pointless.

I read somewhere that Pixelmator Pro takes the Photoshop approach whereas Pixelmator Photo takes the Lightroom approach. So, some overlap, but different usages.

Pixelmator Photo is only 5 bucks though, so it's not a big investment to try it out.
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Interesting, I didn’t know LumaFusion 2 was a thing. I use Pixelmator Pro on my iPad Pro, it’s very good. I have thought about getting the Pixelmator Photo app as well, but if they do the same thing it’s pointless.
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You are right, I’ve just watched this video on the site and it’s very interesting. Being able to carry on a video edit within Final Cut Pro is a great little feature.

https://momofilmfest.com/new-lumafusion-2-0/

It’s got me thinking now would this work better than getting a MacBook Air to edit on.

The biggest complaint I've heard about the Core M based Macs is that editing multiple 4K HEVC tracks can be a problem, as it can be quite laggy. So instead of editing this natively, they suggest transcoding the tracks to another format and then edit using proxies. As you can imagine, it would be a major PITA to have to do this all the time.

In contrast, on the iPad Pro with Luma Fusion, you just edit the 4K HEVC files natively. It works on my 2017 iPad Pro already, although it can lag a bit during fast scrubbing. I'm told it is usually silky smooth on the 2018 iPad Pros though, and often much better than what you get on the 15" MacBook Pros actually.

Note, I'm no video expert. I'm just flabbergasted that I can edit 3 simultaneous iPhone 4Kp30 HEVC files on my US$465 iPad Pro 2017 with only a bit of lag in the interface when scrubbing through the files. However, actual playback (before rendering) is real-time and perfectly smooth on my 2017.

I haven't tried this on my MacBook, but I'm not going to bother, since LumaFusion is just US$20. I don't know if LumaFusion 2.0 will be a free upgrade or not, but it's still not going to cost anywhere near what Final Cut costs, just to give a reportedly inferior experience for basic editing on my MacBook. No, I can't do some of the more complex stuff, but I don't care because I just wanted something more than iMovie and don't need the features that professional Hollywood video editors need.

 

[tps3443]

So we are going to find out in June of the iOS 13 features? That is pretty close!

 

[spudWorks]

I could do some design, and I might have been faster at it if I was used to using touch for design, but things like development are nearly impossible. I have Coda on there but I couldn't run something like CodeKit to compile dependencies in the background. I couldn't run my local development server that runs off a Dropbox directory to test anything. Moving around between apps is so much clunkier. Even the most basic parts of my job, such as updating content in WordPress, is a lot more difficult on the iPad. Just trying to navigate the interface in Safari and attach photos to pages and other basic things was a pain and doesn't work the same as it does on the desktop. Like trying to get a PDF out of an email and into WordPress I have to mess with trying to save it somewhere and can't just drag and drop it over.

I do a lot of heavy Wordpress development for enterprise clients and I've been able to do development on the iPad Pro when absolutely necessary. But it requires a substantial change from how it's done from a Mac. Basically, you need Working Copy, Textastic, and Prompt. Then you also need to set up some scripts to auto-deploy from a git repo on push on a test server your client doesn't mind you accidentally taking down occasionally as you introduce the more than likely typo here and there...

It requires a lot of pre-planning, set up, and testing but it is possible. Not great. Not as good as it could be. But possible...

 

[EugW]

So we are going to find out in June of the iOS 13 features? That is pretty close!

Yes. June 3, to be exact.

Only 47 days left...

 

[Dave245]

The biggest complaint I've heard about the Core M based Macs is that editing multiple 4K HEVC tracks can be a problem, as it can be quite laggy. So instead of editing this natively, they suggest transcoding the tracks to another format and then edit using proxies. As you can imagine, it would be a major PITA to have to do this all the time.

In contrast, on the iPad Pro with Luma Fusion, you just edit the 4K HEVC files natively. It works on my 2017 iPad Pro already, although it can lag a bit during fast scrubbing. I'm told it is usually silky smooth on the 2018 iPad Pros though, and often much better than what you get on the 15" MacBook Pros actually.

Note, I'm no video expert. I'm just flabbergasted that I can edit 3 simultaneous iPhone 4Kp30 HEVC files on my US$465 iPad Pro 2017 with only a bit of lag in the interface when scrubbing through the files. However, actual playback (before rendering) is real-time and perfectly smooth on my 2017.

I haven't tried this on my MacBook, but I'm not going to bother, since LumaFusion is just US$20. I don't know if LumaFusion 2.0 will be a free upgrade or not, but it's still not going to cost anywhere near what Final Cut costs, just to give a reportedly inferior experience for basic editing on my MacBook. No, I can't do some of the more complex stuff, but I don't care because I just wanted something more than iMovie and don't need the features that professional Hollywood video editors need.

What i find very interesting is that the new iPad Pro is faster and more powerful than some Mac's, (Macbook Air, even some configurations of the 15" Macbook Pro). I wonder if Apple will end up putting their own ARM chips in the Macs eventually, in order to at least make them faster.

Luma Fusion looks interesting, not sure if i would get use to editing on it tho. I have used Final Cut Pro X, i'm not a big editor but i do dabble. Are apps like Luma Fusion going to be the future, or are Macs with Final Cut Pro still going to be king. It's a question that i'm not sure i can even guess the answer of.

Am i right in saying that the new iPad Pro's are a lot faster than the 2017 versions? When i looked at them in the apple store i couldn't tell a difference in terms of the screen, they did look great tho, i'm just not sure its worth the upgrade over my 2017 version.

 

[Digitalguy]

What i find very interesting is that the new iPad Pro is faster and more powerful than some Mac's, (Macbook Air, even some configurations of the 15" Macbook Pro). I wonder if Apple will end up putting their own ARM chips in the Macs eventually, in order to at least make them faster.

Luma Fusion looks interesting, not sure if i would get use to editing on it tho. I have used Final Cut Pro X, i'm not a big editor but i do dabble. Are apps like Luma Fusion going to be the future, or are Macs with Final Cut Pro still going to be king. It's a question that i'm not sure i can even guess the answer of.

Am i right in saying that the new iPad Pro's are a lot faster than the 2017 versions? When i looked at them in the apple store i couldn't tell a difference in terms of the screen, they did look great tho, i'm just not sure its worth the upgrade over my 2017 version.

I think people focus a lot on multicore score, while IOS mostly still works as a single core system. Multicore makes a difference in video editing with some apps, but many things are still mainly single core, like browsing.... So you won't see a big difference, it's more a 20% difference than the 100% difference you have in multicore scores

 

[EugW]

What i find very interesting is that the new iPad Pro is faster and more powerful than some Mac's, (Macbook Air, even some configurations of the 15" Macbook Pro). I wonder if Apple will end up putting their own ARM chips in the Macs eventually, in order to at least make them faster.

Luma Fusion looks interesting, not sure if i would get use to editing on it tho. I have used Final Cut Pro X, i'm not a big editor but i do dabble. Are apps like Luma Fusion going to be the future, or are Macs with Final Cut Pro still going to be king. It's a question that i'm not sure i can even guess the answer of.

Am i right in saying that the new iPad Pro's are a lot faster than the 2017 versions? When i looked at them in the apple store i couldn't tell a difference in terms of the screen, they did look great tho, i'm just not sure its worth the upgrade over my 2017 version.

Check it out yo! All my own equipment, tested this morning:

Sony Nature Camp 2’07” video - 79 Mbps 4K HEVC 8-bit 59.94 fps
2017 MacBook Core m3-7Y32 (QuickTime 10.5 Mojave HEVC export): 8’37”
2017 iMac Core i5-7600 (QuickTime 10.5 Mojave HEVC export): 4’52”
2017 iPad Pro A10X (LumaFusion 1.7.7 HEVC 59.94 fps export): 3’51”
2017 iPad Pro A10X (LumaFusion 1.7.7 HEVC 30 fps export): 2’03”

So, for this particular HEVC export, the 2017 iPad Pro is faster than the quad-core i5 desktop, and more than 4X as fast as the MacBook.

Note though, scrubbing in the timeline in LumaFusion on the 2017 iPad Pro was horrible for this particular clip, even though it worked quite well for other 4K HEVC videos I recorded on my iPhone. Note that scrubbing in QuickTime on my iMac wasn't great either, but at least it was much better than on the iPad Pro. Yet, the iPad Pro was much faster at export.

The 2018 iPad Pros benchmark much, much faster than my 2017 iPad Pro, and apparently scrub better and are smoother in the editing process. OTOH, in many video export tests it's not much faster than the 2017 iPad Pro, presumably because the 2017 iPad Pro's hardware encoder is already very good, and that's effectively functionally separate from the rest of the SoC.
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I think people focus a lot on multicore score, while IOS mostly still works as a single core system. Multicore makes a difference in video editing with some apps, but many things are still mainly single core, like browsing.... So you won't see a big difference, it's more a 20% difference than the 100% difference you have in multicore scores

I upgraded the CPU in my Windows desktop from a 3-core Athlon II X3 435 2.9 GHz to a 6-core Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8 GHz. This effectively doubled the multi-core speed but didn’t affect the single-core speed much.

Browsing is very noticeably faster on complex websites, and of course multitasking is much better.

 

[Digitalguy]

Check it out yo! All my own equipment, tested this morning:

Sony Nature Camp 2’07” video - 79 Mbps 4K HEVC 8-bit 59.94 fps
2017 MacBook Core m3-7Y32 (QuickTime 10.5 Mojave HEVC export): 8’37”
2017 iMac Core i5-7600 (QuickTime 10.5 Mojave HEVC export): 4’52”
2017 iPad Pro A10X (LumaFusion 1.7.7 HEVC 59.94 fps export): 3’51”
2017 iPad Pro A10X (LumaFusion 1.7.7 HEVC 30 fps export): 2’03”

So, for this particular HEVC export, the 2017 iPad Pro is faster than the quad-core i5 desktop, and more than 4X as fast as the MacBook.

Note though, scrubbing in the timeline in LumaFusion on the 2017 iPad Pro was horrible for this particular clip, even though it worked quite well for other 4K HEVC videos I recorded on my iPhone. Note that scrubbing in QuickTime on my iMac wasn't great either, but at least it was much better than on the iPad Pro. Yet, the iPad Pro was much faster at export.

The 2018 iPad Pros benchmark much, much faster than my 2017 iPad Pro, and apparently scrub better and are smoother in the editing process. OTOH, in many video export tests it's not much faster than the 2017 iPad Pro, presumably because the 2017 iPad Pro's hardware encoder is already very good, and that's effectively functionally separate from the rest of the SoC.
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I upgraded the CPU in my Windows desktop from a 3-core Athlon II X3 435 2.9 GHz to a 6-core Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8 GHz. This effectively doubled the multi-core speed but didn’t affect the single-core speed much.

Browsing is very noticeably faster on complex websites, and of course multitasking is much better.

In Windows browsing does benefit from multicore (and from hyperthreading), and modern Windows browsers split browser processes. Windows is a more mature platform then IOS from this point of view and nowadays, contrary to 10-15 years ago, virtually everything benefit from more cores.

 

[EugW]

In Windows browsing does benefit from multicore (and from hyperthreading), and modern Windows browsers split browser processes. Windows is a more mature platform then IOS from this point of view and nowadays, contrary to 10-15 years ago, virtually everything benefit from more cores.

iOS benefits very much from multi-core. This not 2009 anymore. Apple designs its own chips after all and they’re all multi-core now.

Safari also happens to be one of the fastest browsers out there too.

 

[Dave245]

iOS benefits very much from multi-core. Apple designs its own chips after all and they’re all multi core.

Safari also happens to be one of the fastest browsers out there too.

It’s funny how Apple announced the MacBook Air and iPad Pro at the same event, yet the iPad Pro is faster.