Knowing apple they probably test macOS on an iPad, saw what the UX was and decided to build an entirely new OS to give their users a better UX.
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iPad iPadOS is severely holding the iPad back... and Microsoft is going to save us...
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Apple has spoken, why do you think it is the way it is lol, you guys really don’t get it.
No, you really don’t when you think you speak for everybody.
Clumsy and Slow? Obviously you are entitled to your opinion... but Windows is a long-established OS, to mention Win 11 is no match for iPadOS.. idk.
Granted, I favor the iPad over Surface Pro line... but in comparison between the two OSs, I'm fully aware Windows is a more effective OS compared to iPadOS.
The main problem here is that Apple is offering Mac-level specs for the higher-end iPad Pro. What is the use-case for this level of power on iPadOS? Which apps can actually use up to 16 GB of memory?
Naturally, for a device that costs nearly $2000 fully kitted out, some users may have a very high bar to meet in terms of quite reasonable expectations.
iOS for iPad is much better. As I said, I have both top of the line SPX/iPad 12.9 models and Win 11/Win 10 are very clumsy and slow on the SPX. No where near as fluid, smooth, especially when using both as a tablet. SPX wants to be an IPad like tablet, but it is still not there yet. Even the lack of apps is a huge shortfall. I want to like the SPX, because of the form factor/kickstand, but almost everything else is no where near the 2021 12.9 iPad.
One other area the SPX does beat the iPad at is it charges very fast. Not sure on battery life compared to iPad yet though.
I wish it was close, as I would keep both, as I really want to like the SPX.
I've just watched part of this video until honestly I could no longer bear it anymore. Look at how this guy is suffering because of the OS. Look at how he sometimes uses his pencil, look at how the app launchpad is too small, hear his reasoning he actually wants to organize his apps in folders, look at those pop-up menus he's trying to use instead of a dedicated UI to smoothen his UX. Note how he thinks of a keyboard at a certain moment. Of course! That OS is meant for a desktop/laptop.
Yes, Windows Phone was better.
Yes, Steve Jobs nailed it!
Yes, Windows Phone was better.
Yes, Steve Jobs nailed it!
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May I ask. When you want to use full Office. Are you attaching a keyboard, mouse then? Do you sit in your couch or at your desk? Do you refer to VBA or something else?
Years ago I saved myself from using Windows. You can too. It's easy when you try.
The idea of a hybrid Mac and iPad OS doesn’t make much sense, in my opinion. Fundamentally, the kernel is virtually identical (especially now that Macs run on ARM), the only differences being for the differences between desktop and tablet/phone.
The userland/GUI is different, but they’re designed for drastically different scenarios. macOS is designed for use with keyboard and mouse (and the Touch Bar was intended to bring multitouch toolbars, sliders, etc. to the macOS without fundamentally changing the macOS experience). iPadOS is designed for touch first, even if it can be used with mouse and keyboard. iPadOS runs on devices like the iPad, iPad mini, iPad Air, and iPad Pro. macOS runs on machines like the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, iMac, Mac mini, and Mac Pro. iPadOS is intended to rethink the old interactions that were grafted on top of the desktop environment and to rethink the desktop environment itself. macOS evolved from a very basic desktop environment, which was designed to help office workers who were complete novices in computers learn how to use them.
What would a hybrid even look like? Touch first or keyboard and mouse first? The former would look a lot more like iPadOS, while the latter is Windows in tablet mode. Desktop or app centric? Simplified window management or full-blown window management? These are binary choices, it doesn’t really make sense to try to find a halfway point between them, case in point tablet mode on a Surface. Despite making concessions for touch screens, it’s very clearly mouse-and-keyboard-centric, desktop, full-blown window management Windows.
Now finding myself using my Windows laptop far more than my 12.9 iPad Pro.
Because Apple never changed their minds. Just like they will never make a stylus or a big screen phone.
Oh. Wait.
While I prefer MacOS overall, I don't get the vitriol some people have over Windows, an OS that runs on 90 percent of the world's computers. It's a perfctly fine OS, that has pros and cons, just like MacOS and iPadOS.
Picked up an M1 iPad Pro to see the state of iPadOS. Verdict is Apple have intentionally made it worse and worse over time to force you to buy two devices, a Macbook and iPad, since it's more profitable than giving you one integrated device running MacOS. A $1100 iPad Pro can't keep an active SSH session in the background for more than 30 seconds with iPadOS/iOS 13+ that a $10 Raspberry Pi Zero W can do infinitely without issue. Down from 3 minutes with iOS 7+ and 10 minutes with iOS 5+.
Um, a little conpsiracy-minded there, are ya?
One of the big issues for me is the inability to use proper desktop browsers and plug-ins. Edge and uBlock Origin are waaay better on my Surface than any combo of Safari-skinned browser and blocker I’ve tried on the iPad. I still get annoying pop-ups that I just don’t see on Windows or Mac.
The other thing that drives me nuts is the inability to properly output to a TV (never mind a monitor). I usually take a lightweight device on holiday with me - last time I took my iPad Pro and it was completely frustrating plugged into the accommodation’s TV. Big black borders around YouTube videos and some other streaming sites (GCN) and subscription services I pay for (Sky Go) block HDMI output completely! My Surface has no issues (neither would a Mac).
It’s not enough to blame the app developers either - forcing all browsers to basically be reskinned Safari results in those big black borders on dozens of streaming sites.
I feel naked without uBlock Origin along with lack of full desktop browser on the iPad not-so-Pro so it's not a good device either for internet surfing, YouTube, etc. And, despite the fake hype, gaming still looks like mobile crapplet vs AAA. Going to hop on Steam and try to preorder the Deck to replace it since it's a much better value, device and isn't locked down.
https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck
https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck
The good news for you is that you're not forced to buy an iPad. It's a discretionary purchase by people so you really don't need to get yourself so worked up as you seem to be by other peoples' buying choices. I'm sure we could go through your household and critique any number of your purchase decisions.
13+ means anything since 13 and higher has been gimped with 30 sec background multitasking. I'm on the latest 14.6 with Termius which warns at ~20 sec with notification enabled then iPadOS kills it at ~30 secs.
I don't understand why people criticize iPadOS for this... why not just put the app in SplitView/SlideOver while using a another app in the meantime.
I buy them after you give Tim the profit trying to make them a main…thanks by the way, you guys save me tons of money doing the same thing you did with them…check email.
Sure thing. Just keep believing your fevered imagination. btw, I don't try to make mine my main; no desire to, in fact.