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iPad iPadOS is severely holding the iPad back... and Microsoft is going to save us...
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I never sit in my couch, unless I have guests and I don't use devices then... I have no interest in using a tablet as Steve Jobs intended. If I use Office I either sit at my desk or I am replacing pen and paper at home or on the go (and for that iPad Office or Windows Office are the same, but iPad offers better form factors).
While I use 1-2 macros, VBA is not a deal breaker. What really is for me are more basic things like comparing office files to get tracked changes, opening rtf files (only third party office suites do that) or resizing my comments in PowerPoint files while I present. And of course not changing the layout of a file created in Windows, which generally only Microsoft Office can do properly (third party apps often struggle with some files). So pretty basic stuff and not much overall, but just enough to prevent me from doing things I do regularly and therefore from using an iPad instead of a Windows device or Mac...
I think there was a setting to allow it to persist. I literally never see the message you’re showing and, as I mentioned, sessions persists for a long time (many minutes or even hours).
No, Microsoft made a deal with Amazon, not Google.
Google requires apps submitted to the Google Play Store to be in aab instead of apk by August. It's up to the developers to maintain apk of their apps to be submitted to the Amazon app store, that will be supported by Windows 11. It might be trivial for some developers to have both bundles during build time. But humans are lazy in nature, and if Google added more requirements in the future, I can see some developers would just ignore alternate app stores.
ah, got it. Can't say that I got real excited when I heard that Win11 would support Android apps - if I wanted to use them I'd just pull one of my six old Android tablets out of the storage box.
Google doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft in this regard. Microsoft made a deal with Amazon, not Google. Amazon uses apk.
And this is different since aab is specific to Google Play Store.
Edit: I spoke too soon. Looks like Amazon will support aab.
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You can get around this by allowing Termius to access your location. Those background services are allowed to run indefinitely.
Can't run the iOS app in the background - Termius Documentation
docs.termius.com
Yeah that was it.You can get around this by allowing Termius to access your location. Those background services are allowed to run indefinitely.
Can't run the iOS app in the background - Termius Documentation
Hmm. I find that my 12.9 spends most of its time not being used. Is it too big, I keep wondering. I've been thinking of selling it lately. I thought 'go big or go home', and realized that sometimes big is just big, and big can be too big. Yikes...
Or save it until my eyes get much much worse?
You only want a big device like the Surface Pro X since it's a productivity device. iPad Pro isn't so I went with 11" and don't plan to get a keyboard either.
Since when was too much performance a problem? To be fair, very few MacOS apps uses 16 Gb RAM.
The 2018 iPad Pros were also around the same price (+/-$100) as the 2021 iPad Pros and the CPU was also overkill. There wasn't this much outrage back then.
Frankly, I don't want an app that uses 16GB RAM all by itself. Since iPads don't have swap, having a single app using all the RAM would mean going back to crappy multitasking behavior with apps and tabs reloading all over the place. Multitasking on iPadOS is far from excellent but at least with 8-16GB RAM, it's less crappier than it used to be.
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I know that I’m not buying an iPad until Apple really let iPadOS fly.
Until they do, For me, iPad still remains mostly an iPhone with a bigger canvas.
And it seems that the main reason that they’re holding iPad back, is because they’re migrating macOS to M1 and they don’t want to cannibalise the sales of their new products.
I simply cannot think of another valid reason as to why iPadOS is so constrained.
Until they do, For me, iPad still remains mostly an iPhone with a bigger canvas.
And it seems that the main reason that they’re holding iPad back, is because they’re migrating macOS to M1 and they don’t want to cannibalise the sales of their new products.
I simply cannot think of another valid reason as to why iPadOS is so constrained.
While it's fun to think of nefarious reasons like 'canibalization of sales', it's obvious that Apple considers iPhones and iPads to be different kinds of computers, which require a different OS. Until iPadOS and iPad apps are completely redesigned to sync data with MacOS Finder, running both OSes would be clunky and awkward experience. Besides, 8GB/256GB would be barely enough to get by using both OSes.
The simplest reason is that Apple hasn't figured out how to make dual booting iPadOS and MacOS fast and seamless; where data can transfer easily between the two Finders.
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Again and again the same 3 usual categories of comments here...
1. the rebels who understand that Apples prefers to sell both Macs and iPads (including pro) to their customers, but feel disappointed, frustrated and promise they won't buy an iPad anymore
2. the naive ones who think that Apple loves so much their customers, that cannibalization does not exist and that if they don't make the iPad pro more suitable for productivity and work it's for the greatest good of their customers
3. those that understand how Apple works and just accept it and use iPads as the good tablets that they are (understanding that pro means premium and not professional in Apple's jargon) and laptops/desktops for work
1. the rebels who understand that Apples prefers to sell both Macs and iPads (including pro) to their customers, but feel disappointed, frustrated and promise they won't buy an iPad anymore
2. the naive ones who think that Apple loves so much their customers, that cannibalization does not exist and that if they don't make the iPad pro more suitable for productivity and work it's for the greatest good of their customers
3. those that understand how Apple works and just accept it and use iPads as the good tablets that they are (understanding that pro means premium and not professional in Apple's jargon) and laptops/desktops for work
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sure, reality is never black or white and some people are somewhere in between categories. But there is a clear tendency for some to keep saying that what Apple is doing is unacceptable, for other to deny that Apple would ever be afraid of cannibalization and, as a residual and thankfully larger category, many just understand that Apple's main purpose is to maximize profits by keeping these device categories separate (given the lack of competition in the tablet segment) and just accept it and make the most out of it....
some very good points added in the edited version of this post, but I think that people wishing MacOS on iPad in dual boot are still a small minority... Even most those who think that iPadOS in its current state is unacceptable on the iPad pro probably don't want MacOS in dual boot but would like a more sophisticated version of iPadOS. One with full external monitor support and a more reliable File App (and in some cases they would also like some fully features MacOS apps to be ported to iPad)
Oh I don't mean that I want macOS on iPad - I more mean why is it that iPadOS hasn't got things like:
- Multi-user logins. It's crazy that an iPad Pro costing £1k or so, hasn't got support for multiple logins yet.
- Better Files/Finder
- FCP, Logic etc. are all messing in action - if iPad Pro is Pro, why haven't we got Apple's pro apps on it yet? It's hardly a resounding commitment from Apple.
- And even the missing iOS apps such as Weather, Calculator.
I hear you re. multi-tasking. I'm not sure if we're ever going to have freeform window placement on iPadOS as per Mac/Windows etc. - more a tiled approach.
And I'm OK with that. And I'm OK with iPad and iPadOS re-imagining what a powerful productivity OS is. They're just not there yet. Even after 10 years.
That's exactly what I was saying. People want a better iPadOS rather than MacOS
Being more specific:
1. Multi-user support: not happening, it would sell less iPads.
2. Pro apps: might happen, but Apple has to figure out if it's worth the effort and how to price it (subscription? but then would it be completely separate from the desktop version or would it include it like Adobe does? would there be backlash from current FCP owners? And last but not least, would some Mac owners move to iPad only as many youtubers say if FCP arrives on iPad?)
3. Calculator, Weather are not there for historical reasons and honestly it's not a big deal
Apple is dealing with its own uncanny-valley where the more MacOS functionality Apple transfers over to iPad OS, the louder the cries for MacOS become. Those people haven't considered what is involved in dual booting both OSes in a way which is good; its not just a "MacOS when a keyboard is attached" situation. This about how much RAM and how large of a drive would be needed to hold both environments, in their frozen states, and all the data associated with apps in two OSes.
IMO the loudest people who want MacOS are also waiting for the upcoming MacBook Pros with their larger screens so until there were 14" and 16" iPads, not to mention wanting a 14" Air, cannibalization wouldn't really happen at a large scale in the same way that the 11" Air didn't really cannibalize the 13" Air.
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Again, these people wanting MacOS are a tiny minority, a very loud one, but tiny. Most people want a better iPadOS. The 11in Macbook air is just a different size, like the 11in iPad is a different size to the 12.9. An iPad is a completely different device, more fun to use, with touch and pen, and convertibility built-in... If you give it the same capabilities as a Mac (with or without MacOS), many Mac users already owning an iPad pro are going to move to iPad pro only or just buy less Macs (and those are precisely some of the most profitable customers, those owning both one of more iPads, including pros, and one or more Macs at the same time).