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Yankee512

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I held one yesterday, personally it was too tall and felt like a top heavy brick IMO.

Doesn't feel top heavy at all. It feels equal weight all around.
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Why do people get so wound up over bloody mobile phones!!! Personally I don't like the iPhone X, I think it's way way over priced, that notch is ugly and that same old app layout has been around for 10 yrs and hasn't changed. I wanted to come back to Apple this year until I saw the keynote. Instead I opted for a N8 and I'm happy. Others don't like the note but that's their opinion.

Would I bash anyone for getting the X, no. It's your money at the end of the day and your choice. There's so much more important things happening in the world than adults behaving like kids and arguing over a mobile phone! Just my thoughts

Looks like he got suspended anyways. Maybe he will calm down now.
 

pdqgp

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Which is exactly why a Samsung flagships will always be one of my main devices. Cause it's loaded with extras, in a market that the main differences between flagships are small. Nobody is going to loss choosing the Note 8, iPhone 8, V30, Pixel 2 XL, U11, Essential phone, or even the Z2 Force.

Been out of the market in comparing the two flagships since I went to the Note 5. Have never really been an iPhone fan but the new iPhone 8/x has me intrigued now that the watch will have it's own phone. I use my Gear S and Note 5 together daily.

What are the current extras you still see that drive the Samsung in your favor still? Thanks.
 

Technarchy

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Great Phone but it is blown out of the water by IPhone X processor. Iphone X has 4k at 60fps (note doesnt), has more features with the camera and superior speakers to Note 8. Where the Note 8 excels is with its screen S Pen (but only works with Samsung apps?) and slightly better spec phone. All in all, both are great phones and is down to individuals which suit their needs.

I don’t care about specs or sales or a company’s quarterly earnings.

I buy technology that solves problems and makes tasks I perform easier. Technology is not the destination, but should make the journey to your destination easier.

Unless you've lived with an S8/+ or Note 8 to a greater extent you won’t understand what I’m taking about but it’s a device that makes things you do on a smartphone easier than an iPhone.

And that’s the point. Ive owned an 8+ and 7+ since launch day and I’ve read the 7+ is more powerful but it doesn’t make my life any easier like the S8+ does.
 

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I don’t care about specs or sales or a company’s quarterly earnings.

I buy technology that solves problems and makes tasks I perform easier. Technology is not the destination, but should make the journey to your destination easier.

Unless you've lived with an S8/+ or Note 8 to a greater extent you won’t understand what I’m taking about but it’s a device that makes things you do on a smartphone easier than an iPhone.

And that’s the point. Ive owned an 8+ and 7+ since launch day and I’ve read the 7+ is more powerful but it doesn’t make my life any easier like the S8+ does.

I think what it really comes down to is how you handle your tech ecosystems. If you are all in on Apple (i.e. Watch, Mac, iPad, Apple Music) then the iPhone has an added benefit that the Note cannot provide regardless of specs etc.

I'm not saying that if you own all of those Apple products then the Note won't fit into your lifestyle but only that the iPhone provides that added benefit. Introducing the Note into an ecosystem where all other products are Apple also diminishes your other Apple hardware a tiny bit (i.e no iMessage/Factime on iPad or Mac, things like that). Sure you can always use Facebook Messenger or something like that but the point is is that Apple has built a wonderful ecosystem and staying in that ecosystem has its benefits (as well as its disadvantages).

I go back and forth on this alot. Sometimes I really prefer the ease of the iPhone and the Apple ecosystem. Just sign in and all my stuff is there (Reminders, Notes, Music, iCloud Photo Library, etc etc). Using cross platform services on the iPhone requires downloading additional apps, having to show my wife and kids a new workflow etc etc.

I completely agree with your point that tech should make the tasks you perform easier. To some, the Note's features will do this, to others Apple's features will do this. So people just need to figure out what's important to them and choose the device that best fits their needs. They are both awesome and powerful phones in their own rights.

Personally, I'll be (once again) trying the Note series this year but I already have my reservations as I am so deeply embedded in the Apple ecosystem and literally about 95% of my family and friends use Apple products. I just want something new and from what I remember from my brief time with the Note 7 it was an awesome device so I can't wait to try out the Note 8. And if for some reason it doesn't fit my needs well then I'll just get the 8+ or X (begrudgingly).
 
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epicrayban

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I don’t care about specs or sales or a company’s quarterly earnings.

I buy technology that solves problems and makes tasks I perform easier. Technology is not the destination, but should make the journey to your destination easier.

Unless you've lived with an S8/+ or Note 8 to a greater extent you won’t understand what I’m taking about but it’s a device that makes things you do on a smartphone easier than an iPhone.

And that’s the point. Ive owned an 8+ and 7+ since launch day and I’ve read the 7+ is more powerful but it doesn’t make my life any easier like the S8+ does.


100% this, but especially the bolded.

I've been saying for quite some time now, the overall Android experience, particularly with Samsung flagship devices IMO, is easier to use than an iPhone/iOS experience.

Typing, emailing, access to settings, the dedicated back button, updating apps, and many more daily and common tasks are a simpler, faster, and more consistent experience with Android. It's an OS that does its best to cater to you, so it's primed to work better for you.

My s8 remains the most worry-free phone I've used to date.
 
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Shanghaichica

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100% this, but especially the bolded.

I've been saying for quite some time now, the overall Android experience, particularly with Samsung flagship devices IMO, is easier to use than an iPhone/iOS experience.

Typing, emailing, access to settings, the dedicated back button, updating apps, and many more daily and common tasks are a simpler, faster, and more consistent experience with Android. It's an OS that does its best to cater to you, so it's primed to work better for you.

My s8 remains the most worry-free phone I've used to date.
Muscle memory aside with iOS devices, I've always found android devices to be more logical because they work similarly to a windows pc. I was shocked the first time I used android at how easy and straight forward it was too use as I had expected it to be insanely complicated.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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I don’t care about specs or sales or a company’s quarterly earnings.

I buy technology that solves problems and makes tasks I perform easier. Technology is not the destination, but should make the journey to your destination easier.

Unless you've lived with an S8/+ or Note 8 to a greater extent you won’t understand what I’m taking about but it’s a device that makes things you do on a smartphone easier than an iPhone.

And that’s the point. Ive owned an 8+ and 7+ since launch day and I’ve read the 7+ is more powerful but it doesn’t make my life any easier like the S8+ does.

Exactly!!! Well said.


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Technarchy

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100% this, but especially the bolded.

I've been saying for quite some time now, the overall Android experience, particularly with Samsung flagship devices IMO, is easier to use than an iPhone/iOS experience.

Typing, emailing, access to settings, the dedicated back button, updating apps, and many more daily and common tasks are a simpler, faster, and more consistent experience with Android. It's an OS that does its best to cater to you, so it's primed to work better for you.

My s8 remains the most worry-free phone I've used to date.

Something simple. I can capture a gif from ANY content from ANY section of the S8+ screen and send it to another person in seconds.

No importing, exporting, cutting, pasting, converting or additional apps. This is huge. I would use that far more than Animoji's. So yes, this solves a problem for me.

This is why the Note 8 is a better product. It makes sense. The form and function are in harmony.

The iPhone X, what it's supposed to do? Was the hardware and software built around the needs of the user? Face ID and Animojis solve zero problems for me. It's different than Touch ID, but different isn't always a benefit.

Lastly, is the iPhone X a better vehicle for iOS, the software, than the 8 or 8+? Honestly, no.
 

jamezr

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I don’t care about specs or sales or a company’s quarterly earnings.

I buy technology that solves problems and makes tasks I perform easier. Technology is not the destination, but should make the journey to your destination easier.

Unless you've lived with an S8/+ or Note 8 to a greater extent you won’t understand what I’m taking about but it’s a device that makes things you do on a smartphone easier than an iPhone.

And that’s the point. Ive owned an 8+ and 7+ since launch day and I’ve read the 7+ is more powerful but it doesn’t make my life any easier like the S8+ does.
Very well said! Benchmarks don't mean anything as well. I have the 7+ and Note 8 and use them side by side and I cannot tell a speed difference if there is one. I have found this to be true for most phones that have high benchmark scores. In everyday use you won't notice the speed differences.
 

Yankee512

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Very well said! Benchmarks don't mean anything as well. I have the 7+ and Note 8 and use them side by side and I cannot tell a speed difference if there is one. I have found this to be true for most phones that have high benchmark scores. In everyday use you won't notice the speed differences.

Agreed! But it seems some fans of Apple disagree. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...top-android-competition-in-geekbench.2068143/

My note 8 is quicker than my IP7+ overall in every day use.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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Very well said! Benchmarks don't mean anything as well. I have the 7+ and Note 8 and use them side by side and I cannot tell a speed difference if there is one. I have found this to be true for most phones that have high benchmark scores. In everyday use you won't notice the speed differences.

I personally think the noticable difference would be the speed of processing, when exporting a video edit. But I could be wrong. Just something I notice on my differ spec computers.
 
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jamezr

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Just a few benchmarks comparisons if anyone is doubting how fast the a11 is:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-benchmarks-fastest-phone,review-4676.html

Video editing is more than 4x faster than the note 8.
lol wow really? The Note 8 is 10 x faster at writing with a S-Pen than the iPhone 8...oh wait.....


Benchmarks don't mean anything...what really matters is user experience. If you like iphones...the new ones are awesome. I have one pre-ordered. If you like Android phones....there is one to fit your needs.
 

Technarchy

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Just a few benchmarks comparisons if anyone is doubting how fast the a11 is:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-benchmarks-fastest-phone,review-4676.html

Video editing is more than 4x faster than the note 8.

Probably true, but does that solve a problem for my usage?

I doubt it’s faster than popping out an SD card full of 4K content and editing on a Mac using Final Cut or iMovie, which is what I would prefer to do since I would probably be working with GoPro content as well. And editing on a phone is okay, good for casual content, but less than ideal for something more important.
 

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lol wow really? The Note 8 is 10 x faster at writing with a S-Pen than the iPhone 8...oh wait.....


Benchmarks don't mean anything...what really matters is user experience. If you like iphones...the new ones are awesome. I have one pre-ordered. If you like Android phones....there is one to fit your needs.

Why so defensive? I am just reporting another aspect of the debate which is performance. loading up a game almost 2x faster is also very useful.

Having faster graphics performance and cpu performance pushes the boundaries on the potential of what a phone can do. For example ar or more realistic graphics. Or would you like to stay with a cpu that isn’t even as fast as a a9?
 

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Imagine waking up today with a Note 8 knowing it could be years or never if you ever get a major update, while iPhone 8 comes updated and most other iPhone users are updating their phones.
 

Aneres11

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Imagine waking up today with a Note 8 knowing it could be years or never if you ever get a major update, while iPhone 8 comes updated and most other iPhone users are updating their phones.

Gosh you're right. WHAT KIND OF SICK WORLD WOULD IT BE.
Waking up with a Note 8 knowing that kind of info. SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Sorry for my childish post, I be trollin. :D
 

Zipster3

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Gosh you're right. WHAT KIND OF SICK WORLD WOULD IT BE.
Waking up with a Note 8 knowing that kind of info. SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Sorry for my childish post, I be trollin. :D

Well it is the Note8 v IP8 thread bud, so updates don't come into it?

Personally would never call anyone a troll just shows your form, but whatever floats your boat.
 
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jamezr

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Why so defensive? I am just reporting another aspect of the debate which is performance. loading up a game almost 2x faster is also very useful.

Having faster graphics performance and cpu performance pushes the boundaries on the potential of what a phone can do. For example ar or more realistic graphics. Or would you like to stay with a cpu that isn’t even as fast as a a9?
Not defensive at all.....just shining some clarity on what you posted.....
Why does showing something the Note can do bother you so much?
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Just a few benchmarks comparisons if anyone is doubting how fast the a11 is:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-benchmarks-fastest-phone,review-4676.html

Video editing is more than 4x faster than the note 8.

I haven't seen anyone doubt the A11's performance. We just all want to know the difference of usability of real world comparison to competitor devices.

Sure it might count a lot with AR, speed of exporting video edits, and even animojis. But a noticeable difference between gaming? That's questionable. And factors like display resolution and size also account for the experience. On both my 7+ and Note 8, games play is smooth as butter. Unless I play them side by side I'm not going to know which one loads faster. Unless I run an onscreen benchmark, I'm not going to be able to tell the difference of about 5 fps between the two phones.

So what are users of SD 835 devices actually missing by not having the A11 chip? Where is the disadvantage?
 
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