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iPhone 8 or Note 8?
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My only question is how does it plan on beating the current best display on smartphones without being as bright? People will care when they look at the eye watering price. It has to be the best or one of the best at everything.
People will decide what is best for them and purchase accordingly. As I decided lcd is best for me and purchasing accordingly. Sales will be king the next year. The note 8 also has a eye-watering price. If that is selling the iphone x will sell. Best is subjective, has been and always will.
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Well for me the screen has to be good enough, which is where my comment is headed. As to whether people like it and it sells, we’ll see. I think they will.
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Or Apple didn’t repeat the mistake with the 8 that they made with the 7. Can’t assume anything on sales as you don’t know what’s in the channel.
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What that says is, IMO, most Apple customers don’t look at the spec sheet. But the comment says nothing about quality as I haven’t seen the phone in person to make a determination.
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That’s if that is accurate.
All that has to happen is it has to be free of burn in and pink screen and equal lcd. Then it will be a winner.
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FYI by default the note 8 runs at a lower resolution (2220x1080) than the iPhone X (2436x1135). You’ll need to go into the settings to go to the full resolution. But going to the full res lowers battery life by around 10%.
This is besides the point because the resolution of the note 8 is higher thhan the iPhone X. The iPhone X has a fixed resolution.
Add in all the extras which come with the Note 8 and the iPhone costs $400 more. No the Note 8 does not have an eye watering price. I can keep my 7 Plus if I get the Note 8. I have to trade in my 7 Plus if I get the 256GB X with fast charging and wireless charging. That says it all about the cost
I don't care about others. I am debating whether or not the iPhone X has the best display on the planet or not and whether it competes with the Note 8.Dont change the subject
Good enough is not good enough for a $1200 phone. It must be the best.End of story
Didn't you say that people were having troubles getting iPhones for quite a few years now? The 7 Plus jet black in particular took 3 months to be in stock. Now 4 days after preorder date we still get all colors available on launch day? But at the same time the X sells out in 60 seconds? See the message customers are sending?
So Apple is lying about brightness on its website?
If it equals LCD I am returning it the moment it arrives. It needs to equal last years S7 Edge at the very least as even that display is leagues above LCD and an upgrade for me. I am ready to bet that the iPhone 8 is going to have burn in cases before the end of the year. Apple cant wave a magic wand and make the flaws of oled disappear.
But this is still and individual purchase decision. I don't care about others either, only myself. It's up to the masses to purchase what they feel is a proper price/value equation.
Something that is subjective. Period.
Correct, last year one couldn't get an iphone 7. Apple this year rectified their supply chain management and the iphone 8 is widely available at launch. And you cannot gauge whether or not the iphone 8 is selling because the channel has enough stock.
I don't know. Are they?
You are free to do what you feel is best. I've never debated that one makes a purchase based on their own criteria. What I've debated is that the "strawman" arguments don't have any merit.
This isn't a coincidence that when people were going through hell ordering a 6,6s and a 7 and their supply chain management was rectified with the 8 so much so that its available 5 days after preorder.
If their SCM is so good, why can an iPhone X be purchased in only 60 seconds?
You're right it's not a coincidence. IMO, apple took some special steps to make sure there was an available supply to meet demand. But you are confusing the board, didn't you say YOU NEVER had any issues purchasing an iphone?
As far as why CAN an iphone x be purchased in 60 seconds. Got a source for that? Apple states preorders start on 10/27. Don't know how you managed to purchase an iphone x in 60 seconds today.
I have not read all the posts but I decided not to take advantage of the discount to former Note 7 owners because I decided to go all in on the "ecosystem" once I saw that LTE was coming to Apple Watch. I know there are some issues, but I think it will work well enough and be resolved in software updates. If not, I'll return it and enjoy my current series 2 Watch.
I'm also excited about AR Kit and the apps that are already out thanks to it, and even IPhone 8 Plus has upgrades I'm interested in. For me it's between 8 Plus and IPhone X. The Note 8 doesn't really intrigue me enough to lure me away from my S8+, either and I am just not a fan of curved display edges. Also it's a worse experience than my current Samsungs for VR according to what I've read anyway and won't fit into my existing VR Goggles, of which I have three and don't want to replace.
I'm also excited about AR Kit and the apps that are already out thanks to it, and even IPhone 8 Plus has upgrades I'm interested in. For me it's between 8 Plus and IPhone X. The Note 8 doesn't really intrigue me enough to lure me away from my S8+, either and I am just not a fan of curved display edges. Also it's a worse experience than my current Samsungs for VR according to what I've read anyway and won't fit into my existing VR Goggles, of which I have three and don't want to replace.
I still get around 6 hours and x amount of minutes of on-screen time using near max brightness(right before the red line warning) on the Note 8. So running 2960x1440 with a nit brightness of probably 800-900, that's damn good. And personally I've never notice any difference in battery life when setting it to a lower resolution, even with previous recent Galaxy phones.
Kind of a decent screen size difference there. Gotta wait until the Plus versionNext month cant come sooner. Lets see if I am destined for a Note 8 or an iPhone X
It's only anecdotal, but I can have the sun fully shining on my Note 8 and it's perfectly viewable. It sounds mundane, but it's actually pretty amazing and a first for any phone as far as I know. My 7 plus in the same situation would have a completely black screen, of course that's LCD. When I noted this I was outside, but I also notice this in my car with the sunroof open when the sun is in the right spot to directly shine through the sunroof and hit my dash mounted phone. My 7+ is useless at this point.
I don't have high hopes for viewing the iPhone X in full sunlight, or TBH even out of the sunlight but on a sunny day. I know Apple has this reputation of waiting to implement new technology and then perfecting it, but my guess is their OLED panels will be inferior to Samsungs.
I do not doubt that OLED screen's sunlight visibility is superior to that of LCD's. That has been the case for Galaxy phones for several years now. LCDs do not have single advantage over OLED when it comes to visual fidelity, and that is well documented in scientific literature. Only issues are 1) cost, 2) longevity, and 3) quality control. Cost and quality control are related (and not limited to OLED), and I am sure Apple will bin the panels to ensure that its 10th anniversary iPhone will not be mired in controversy.
The screen looks amazing to me. I do not think anyone will complain about this screen even if it is not as bright as the Note 8's. Burn-ins on the other hand..
I'd love to hear a legitimate comparison between this two phones, rather than a insult marred exchange.
Hardware, OS, AI, Camera, Battery life, features, etc.
I currently have the note 8 and for the life of me, I cannot make a decision between the note 8 + gear S3 (curently have), and the iPhone 8 plus and Apple watch series 3.
I'm not interested in either ecosystem (which I like). I have a 2nd gen iPad pro, windows desktop and laptop, Google home, rokus, fire tvs, chromcast, xbox, PlayStation, etc. I use what is the best in their respective category, and rarely allow an ecosystem to dictate my decisions.
Honestly....I see the advantage and drawbacks of both setups (note 8 vs iPhone 8 plus). I see the Note 8 as having the superior screen, design, an extra legitimately useful features such as the S Pen. I see the Note 8 as having the superior AI integration, and a versatile customizable operating system. I see the iPhone 8 plus is having a equal or slightly Superior camera to the point of not mattering, better battery life, outstanding performance (though the difference may not be noticeable.), and a still enjoyable design(outsated, but still the best fingerprint sensor in it's class).
The iPhone X...to me is overpriced and a 1st gen product. The note 8 isn't much cheaper....but I got it for $500 with their promotion. The note 8 is worth more than I paid.
As a side note... I find the gear s3 and my past Apple Watch series 2 to be largely equal in their functionality. The Apple watch had the thinner more comfortable design, in the gear S3 looks better. Gear S3 has the better battery life. I would call it a draw.
Also....one more thing.... Maybe it is the high refresh rate of the iPad Pro 2nd gen, but what is with the lack and stuttering of iOS 11 when switching apps?
Sorry...I I keep adding to this post, but Samsung pay is easy to forget but a real benefit. I use it all the time. I have nearly 8,000 points, which is enough for a $50 GameSpy gift card, etc.
Still...I'm stuck in indecision. I also haven't slept in almost 48 hours (my job), which can't help.
Hardware, OS, AI, Camera, Battery life, features, etc.
I currently have the note 8 and for the life of me, I cannot make a decision between the note 8 + gear S3 (curently have), and the iPhone 8 plus and Apple watch series 3.
I'm not interested in either ecosystem (which I like). I have a 2nd gen iPad pro, windows desktop and laptop, Google home, rokus, fire tvs, chromcast, xbox, PlayStation, etc. I use what is the best in their respective category, and rarely allow an ecosystem to dictate my decisions.
Honestly....I see the advantage and drawbacks of both setups (note 8 vs iPhone 8 plus). I see the Note 8 as having the superior screen, design, an extra legitimately useful features such as the S Pen. I see the Note 8 as having the superior AI integration, and a versatile customizable operating system. I see the iPhone 8 plus is having a equal or slightly Superior camera to the point of not mattering, better battery life, outstanding performance (though the difference may not be noticeable.), and a still enjoyable design(outsated, but still the best fingerprint sensor in it's class).
The iPhone X...to me is overpriced and a 1st gen product. The note 8 isn't much cheaper....but I got it for $500 with their promotion. The note 8 is worth more than I paid.
As a side note... I find the gear s3 and my past Apple Watch series 2 to be largely equal in their functionality. The Apple watch had the thinner more comfortable design, in the gear S3 looks better. Gear S3 has the better battery life. I would call it a draw.
Also....one more thing.... Maybe it is the high refresh rate of the iPad Pro 2nd gen, but what is with the lack and stuttering of iOS 11 when switching apps?
Sorry...I I keep adding to this post, but Samsung pay is easy to forget but a real benefit. I use it all the time. I have nearly 8,000 points, which is enough for a $50 GameSpy gift card, etc.
Still...I'm stuck in indecision. I also haven't slept in almost 48 hours (my job), which can't help.
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I can easily read the screen on my 6s with polarized sunglasses in full on sunlight ( and without the glasses as well). Not sure why the iPhone 7 would be different.
I can't use mine in direct sunlight, the screen is just too dark. Makes it useless as GPS when my sunroof it open and the sun is at the right angle. Forget about using it outside. Keep in mind I'm talking about the sun shining directly onto the screen, as in you are facing away from the sun and holding your phone up. This is in stark contrast to the Note 8 which under direct sunlight looks "normal", as if it wasn't outdoors. I've put my 7+ and the N8 side by side and the difference is night and day.
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Of course you can. Must be a special version from just about everyone else that can't see diddly squat. Lol.
Something wrong with ram management on the iPhone 8? It's flushing games from memory according to this speed test. iPhone 8 isn't steam rolling the Note 8 like many predicted. It's similar to how it performs against the 7.