iPhone 8 or Note 8?

[Radon87000]

Okay, I don’t care about opening apps. It’s already been proven iphone 8 is faster in gaming.

I don’t game all the time on my phone. And in opening apps an action we do everyday it’s slower

So you’re cherry picking here. But your entitled to your opinion even though you cannot define “vast”.

Not a single person I met or interact with has been satisfied with iOS 11 and the issue being highlighted in the media only furthers this fact.

I have no input lag or springboard crashes.

All the videos of iOS 11 or iPhone 7 and 8 disagree

Your issues are not universal which is the point

This is grasping at straws basically because if out of 100,99 are facing issues and 1 doesn’t you can still say it’s not universal.

And we’ll see who is mopping the floor with who.

Already happened. It lost to the Note 8 and I expect the Pixel 2 and OnePlis 6 will be even faster.

 

[Michael Goff]

IMO, IOS 11 is one of the best releases in a long time, even though some are complaining about this and that. I'm on 11.1 now on my 6s and aside from some interface issues it's very stable (for me). No one is stopping anyone from complaining, however there are different takes on how one perceives this stuff.

It's your opinion and you are entitled to it, the same as everyone else is entitled to their own opinion. My two 5s are running great on ios 11.1, so I don't see them crippling a four year old phone. 6s+, 7 and 7+ are running pretty well on 11.0.1 aside from some annoying interface glitches that I'm sure will be ironed shortly.
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You slog through crap with your devices for whatever reason. My phones are running well and I wouldn't downgrade to ios 10, even if it were possible.

I would argue this is the buggiest Springboard as been in years.

 

[Tsepz]

I'm still wondering why we are comparing a iPhone 8 to the Note 8. I believe comparisons should be made by closest screen size. The only phone that any flagship iPhone even the upcoming iPhone X (5.8 inches) should be compared to is the 5.8 inch S8. It still surprises me that even the S8 will have more screen real estate than the iPhone X especially when watching video. The S8 also has more ram and it's half the price.

Indeed.

In actual fact, the only comparable Apple product to the Note8 is the iPad Pro Series.

The iPhone 8 Plus should be compared to S8+ and iPhone X to S8.

 

[Tsepz]

A good example of nonsense. Apple didn’t “fail” and most if these oddball things will be worked out shortly.

In the same way they were worked out between iOS11 and iOS11.0.1? Yeah?

 

[Tsepz]

Well, Apple has been known for years, mistakenly in my opinion, as being perfect in the OS area. They are held to a higher standard for those things. Remember: people say iOS is why you buy an iPhone.

"It just works" is what they USED to say

 

[Tsepz]

I think iphone 8 is twice as fast as recent androids in geekbench, as i have stated before.

Then you got all philosophical defending your ego.

But the conclusion stayed the same. Iphone 8 is twice as fast in geekbench.

That is fantastic....if you sit around running Geekbench all day.

 

[Tsepz]

As in everything software and hardware, your mileage will vary. If you think Apple doesn't release software with bugs, you don't follow the hardware and software industry that closely. And if you look at the cycle which has been going on since Jobs, they generally take until June to perfect their IOS release.

Oh my word, June!? That's a long time to wait. I need my iPad running well for December!

Thankfully my Note8 was running well out-the-box. It just works, luckily.

 

[I7guy]

I don’t game all the time on my phone. And in opening apps an action we do everyday it’s slower



Not a single person I met or interact with has been satisfied with iOS 11 and the issue being highlighted in the media only furthers this fact.



All the videos of iOS 11 or iPhone 7 and 8 disagree


This is grasping at straws basically because if out of 100,99 are facing issues and 1 doesn’t you can still say it’s not universal.


Already happened. It lost to the Note 8 and I expect the Pixel 2 and OnePlis 6 will be even faster.

We live in different worlds then. I really like iOS 11. People I know are not having issues with it. It’s faster than the note 8 already and Apple will be refining the operating system as time goes on.(as they have done for years) anyway we’re all entitled to our opinions.
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That is fantastic....if you sit around running Geekbench all day.

Or opening apps without doing any real work.

 

[Radon87000]

We live in different worlds then. I really like iOS 11. People I know are not having issues with it. It’s faster than the note 8 already and Apple will be refining the operating system as time goes on.(as they have done for years) anyway we’re all entitled to our opinions.
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Or opening apps without doing any real work.

My use case is opening apps to do work and it’s not faster. It also has a lesser battery than the Note 8.

Give me a time frame for this refinement. When will everything be fixed?

 

[I7guy]

My use case is opening apps to do work and it’s not faster. It also has a lesser battery than the Note 8.

Give me a time frame for this refinement. When will everything be fixed?

Ask Apple, only they know. I’m glad you are a serial app opener. Mine open just fine and dandy. And what does the battery have to do with this?

 

[The Game 161]

I would argue this is the buggiest Springboard as been in years.

It is for me, I have had no issues with lag or buggy stuff before this year. on the ipad it's fine but on the iphone there are issues.

I'm sure they will sort it soon which they normally do. Least they are getting updates out there. One of the positives of apple

 

[Michael Goff]

It is for me, I have had no issues with lag or buggy stuff before this year. on the ipad it's fine but on the iphone there are issues.

I'm sure they will sort it soon which they normally do. Least they are getting updates out there. One of the positives of apple

That is true, the upside of Apple is that they can throw out updates at will. Sadly, if they made the launcher an app they wouldn't even need to update the OS to fix springboard issues.

 

[jamesrick80]

Indeed.

In actual fact, the only comparable Apple product to the Note8 is the iPad Pro Series.

The iPhone 8 Plus should be compared to S8+ and iPhone X to S8.

Sadly the iPhone 8 or the 8 Plus can't match any of Samsung flagships screen sizes...the X is the closest to the S8 but the other two need to be set below par (4.7 in and 5.5 in).

 

[Radon87000]

Ask Apple, only they know.

So no timeframe.

I’m glad you are a serial app opener. Mine open just fine and dandy

Even a $100 phone can open apps. I want the iPhone 8 to open apps faster Han the Note 8 with its A11 Bionic chip. Will it or will it not do it? Or is this like AMD's Piledriver CPU which whooped the Intel CPUs in multithreaded benchmarks while getting its ass kicked By Intel in pretty much every real world activity.

And what does the battery have to do with this?

Why is battery life half that of the Samsung flagships? I have watched 4 battery videos and they show the same thing and his is replicated on my personal phone.

 

[MRU]

Do you think video rendering is mainly a CPU bound task?

Yes based on my years of using both Final Cut Pro and Avid. Oh and my Hons degree in Media Production - Digital Media & Editing .....

I only need to look at my CPU usage. Video Rendering is mostly CPU bound. However realtime effects in video are GPU bound these days, until you come to do a proper final render of your project and then it's all CPU once more.

Rendering the 4K video on the iPhone or any other device would be a CPU bound task.

 

[I7guy]

So no timeframe.


Even a $100 phone can open apps. I want the iPhone 8 to open apps faster Han the Note 8 with its A11 Bionic chip. Will it or will it not do it? Or is this like AMD's Piledriver CPU which whooped the Intel CPUs in multithreaded benchmarks while getting its ass kicked By Intel in pretty much every real world activity.


Why is battery life half that of the Samsung flagships? I have watched 4 battery videos and they show the same thing and his is replicated on my personal phone.

I want my phone to run apps fast. To be able to play games with no bogging down. We each have differing goals as to what we want our phones to do. Buy accordingly.

 

[BlueGoldAce]

I think it is odd that we have people arguing over which phone is "faster".

My iPhone 8 plus never leaves me with the impression of "slow".

I just turned on my note 8, to play with it one last time before factory resetting it, and shipping it off to whomever bought it. It was fast, in every since of the word.

I literally can't detect the difference. Apparently the Note 8 can serial open 28 apps faster, and the iPhone 8 plus can video edit 4k/run higher end games faster/better. If you are specifically doing that, then you choice is made.

If you are using your phone like a normal person, then your choice is based off of OS, and personal experience. I owned both and literally could not pick. I went with the iPhone for updates, and the Apple watch. The only phone that may change that decision is the upcoming Pixel that will be announced tomorrow, a few days before my return window is up with Apple.

I just don't get the pettiness and insults, combined with the repetitive nature of the back and forth that has be going on in this thread for weeks....literally. At some point, I imagine you would give up and go on living your life. I can promise that this "debate" is producing nothing constructive enough to actually help a person pick.

 

[Radon87000]

I want my phone to run apps fast. To be able to play games with no bogging down. We each have differing goals as to what we want our phones to do. Buy accordingly.

I want my phone to be back to the exact same speed and battery life it used to have on iOS 10. Please stop trying to act as if iOs 11 doesn't have glaring issues and it's the minority facing problems.

That's all I am saying.

 

[widgeteer]

I want my phone to be back to the exact same speed and battery life it used to have on iOS 10. Please stop trying to act as if iOs 11 doesn't have glaring issues and it's the minority facing problems.

That's all I am saying.

It probably is the minority facing problems though. Online forums and tech bloggers aren't a good sample size. That doesn't mean your issues and frustrations aren't real.

 

[jamezr]

It probably is the minority facing problems though. Online forums and tech bloggers aren't a good sample size. That doesn't mean your issues and frustrations aren't real.

True....unless there are a TON of them reporting the same issues. Then you can get a baseline and see that there really is an issue. I myself had a problem with IOS 11 on my iPad and had to roilback to 10.33

 

[widgeteer]

True....unless there are a TON of them reporting the same issues. Then you can get a baseline and see that there really is an issue. I myself had a problem with IOS 11 on my iPad and had to roilback to 10.33

I hear you but that's still not a good sample size. It's still anecdotal.

My overarching point is people should stop projecting their own experiences. Sweeping statements such as "iOS 11 is a bug filled mess" isn't credible.

 

[S.B.G]

So I haven't looked in this thread before this morning and I see there is some discord going on. Allow me to grab my moderator hat here.

Whatever the beef is, let it go, move on and let's all try to get along. There is little need to prove to anyone what one perceives as a slight or an insult. If there are these perceptions, please use the tools available to you to handle it. That tool is the report button. Send us a report on the problem and someone on staff will have a look at it and act according to the rules and their best judgment and deal with it. Please refrain from getting into arguments over rules and insults in the forum threads.

The last I knew this particular thread is about choosing an iPhone 8 or a Note 8. Let's stick to that topic and discuss the merits of each phone with their strong and weak points. It's okay to disagree on things and it doesn't mean that one is better than the other or that the proponent of said device is a lesser person or a better person because of their choices.

Let's have peace and goodwill.

Thanks for understanding!

 

[Michael Goff]

Yes based on my years of using both Final Cut Pro and Avid. Oh and my Hons degree in Media Production - Digital Media & Editing .....

I only need to look at my CPU usage. Video Rendering is mostly CPU bound. However realtime effects in video are GPU bound these days, until you come to do a proper final render of your project and then it's all CPU once more.

Rendering the 4K video on the iPhone or any other device would be a CPU bound task.

Well, that's me being wrong.

Thanks for helping straighten me out.

 

[jamezr]

I hear you but that's still not a good sample size. It's still anecdotal.

My overarching point is people should stop projecting their own experiences. Sweeping statements such as "iOS 11 is a bug filled mess" isn't credible.

but to be honest just about everything we talk about here is anecdotal then....
Google "iOS 11 is a bug filled mess" and you will find there are a lot of people having the same issues. Websites giving directions on workarounds. Then IOS 11.01 was released quickly to alleviate some of the issues.
The issues are real no matter if they are anecdotal beacsure they are people's experiences.

 

[Radon87000]

I hear you but that's still not a good sample size. It's still anecdotal.

My overarching point is people should stop projecting their own experiences. Sweeping statements such as "iOS 11 is a bug filled mess" isn't credible.

Have you used iOS 10.3.3? Because compared to that it's indeed filled with bugs.