iPhone 8 or Note 8?

[I7guy]

Samsung didn’t get here in a day. It’s taken years for them and it will take a similar amount of time for LG and Japan Dosplay and even then there is no guarantee they will be able to produce a good quality oled even in small numbers. Both the new Pixel 2 and the LG V30 use P-OLED from LG and both the models suffer from banding issues and we all know how many of these phones will sell. Even if Apple’s money helps them they need to be able to mass produce it which is a daunting task. Looking at the issues with the v30, Samsung has nothing to fear from LG

You never know what happens in the future so you can’t predict the future based on the past. Doing so is a result of observational bias. But your entitled to your opinion, it won’t change mine that if Samsung wants future business they won’t play hardball with Apple and piss them off.

 

[Radon87000]

You never know what happens in the future so you can’t predict the future based on the past. Doing so is a result of observational bias. But your entitled to your opinion, it won’t change mine that if Samsung wants future business they won’t play hardball with Apple and piss them off.

In my opinion, Apple needs to take the display business into its own hands like their chips.

 

[Tsepz]

So at $1200 you are okay with a lower brightness level than Samsung’a $600 phone?

....

He has no choice

If Apple gave him 10nits he'd be happy until they tell him he has to be happy with 100nits and so on.

Why are you even asking such questions???

At the moment there is a thread in the iPhone forums that is praising the Notch I could not believe what I was reading in there.

Nothing at this point can surprise me anymore with iFans, honestly.

I always refer to the time when the iPhone had a truly rubbish camera (2G, 3G and 3GS), and the iFans said they are happy to carry a separate Camera.

 

[jamezr]

He has no choice

If Apple gave him 10nits he'd be happy until they tell him he has to be happy with 100nits and so on.

Why are you even asking such questions???

At the moment there is a thread in the iPhone forums that is praising the Notch I could not believe what I was reading in there.

Nothing at this point can surprise me anymore with iFans, honestly.

I always refer to the time when the iPhone had a truly rubbish camera (2G, 3G and 3GS), and the iFans said they are happy to carry a separate Camera.

just Google the word "sheeple" It def applies to some.

 

[spinedoc77]

You never know what happens in the future so you can’t predict the future based on the past. Doing so is a result of observational bias. But your entitled to your opinion, it won’t change mine that if Samsung wants future business they won’t play hardball with Apple and piss them off.

Dude, no offense but 99% of your posts are also trying to predict the future. Thus it ends up a vicious cycle of nothing more than opinions about the future being used for a 50 page thread. I can predict it with accuracy, ok here goes:

Me: "I hope tomorrow will be a nice day, I'm a bit tired of the rain and the forecast says sunny skies"

I7guy: "The point being made all along is about the supposition. No matter what “we” may think “we” don’t know what the weather will truly be like. You never know what happens in the future so you can’t predict the future based on the past. Doing so is a result of observational bias."

Me: "Our other forum members and myself were just hoping tomorrow would be nice day, that's all"

I7guy: "Who is this “our” you speak about. I’m sure some people fit that profile and others, like me, don’t think the same way as you."

Me: "Just the tons of other members on the forum who really wish tomorrow will be full of sunshine and rainbows, I read an article earlier that said the first week of October usually has fair weather"

I7guy: "don't know who the "tons" are. That's a strawman argument. Some people might be and others might not be. Having articles written up doesn't mean there is a generic rule that "everybody" is."



Yep, just another 50 pages of debunking opinions and hopes left!!

 

[M5RahuL]

[QUOTE="Tsepz, post: 25137459, member: 786632”]

Why do people who know nothing and don't care for Android choose to come here and talk rubbish about it. [/QUOTE]

To self-justify their ifanboyism !

 

[jamezr]

[QUOTE="Tsepz, post: 25137459, member: 786632]

Why do people who know nothing and don't care for Android choose to come here and talk rubbish about it.

To self-justify their ifanboyism !

exactly...if we could get @Radon87000 to stop replying to him he eventually go away and take his rhetoric somewhere else.

 

[Tsepz]

Dude, no offense but 99% of your posts are also trying to predict the future. Thus it ends up a vicious cycle of nothing more than opinions about the future being used for a 50 page thread. I can predict it with accuracy, ok here goes:

Me: "I hope tomorrow will be a nice day, I'm a bit tired of the rain and the forecast says sunny skies"

I7guy: "The point being made all along is about the supposition. No matter what “we” may think “we” don’t know what the weather will truly be like. You never know what happens in the future so you can’t predict the future based on the past. Doing so is a result of observational bias."

Me: "Our other forum members and myself were just hoping tomorrow would be nice day, that's all"

I7guy: "Who is this “our” you speak about. I’m sure some people fit that profile and others, like me, don’t think the same way as you."

Me: "Just the tons of other members on the forum who really wish tomorrow will be full of sunshine and rainbows, I read an article earlier that said the first week of October usually has fair weather"

I7guy: "don't know who the "tons" are. That's a strawman argument. Some people might be and others might not be. Having articles written up doesn't mean there is a generic rule that "everybody" is."



Yep, just another 50 pages of debunking opinions and hopes left!!

Spot on
Well played, Sir!

 

[M5RahuL]

just Google the word "sheeple" It def applies to some.

That word should be in the dictionary now! lol

 

[jamezr]

That word should be in the dictionary now! lol

The Verge wrote an article about it...

https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2017/...erriam-webster-sheeple-definition-iphone-ipad

 

[widgeteer]

He has no choice

If Apple gave him 10nits he'd be happy until they tell him he has to be happy with 100nits and so on.

Why are you even asking such questions???

At the moment there is a thread in the iPhone forums that is praising the Notch I could not believe what I was reading in there.

Nothing at this point can surprise me anymore with iFans, honestly.

I always refer to the time when the iPhone had a truly rubbish camera (2G, 3G and 3GS), and the iFans said they are happy to carry a separate Camera.

You cannot be serious here. The notch is 100% subjective. It's not an "iFans" thing.

Some of you just will not accept that people prefer, with good reason for *them*, iOS to Android.

If some of you want to keep referencing how "iFans" change their tune, it was literally just a few weeks ago most on here insisted:

• iPhone 8's were just year over year iterative of the 7's and offered no value.
• Essential was a dud because it had no wireless charging, no headphone jack, and wasn't IP68 certified.
• $1K for a phone??? FAIL FAIL FAIL
• Apple charged outrageous prices for dongles.

Fast forward to the Pixel unveiling and suddenly:

• Regular Pixel and XL 2 are AMAZING despite being only incrementally different than last year's versions (the regular one being virtually identical).
• No wireless charging. No headphone jack. BUT OH MY GOD STILL AMAZING.
• Pixel XL with no wireless charging, no headphone jack is almost 1K?? SUCCESS SUCCESS SUCCESS GOOGLE'S GOT IT GOIN ON!!!
• Google USB C to 3.5 dongle: $20 (Apple's is $9).

Listen, it's really simple: you guys are good with it because you see *value* in what Android does. You prefer Android to iOS. Thus the other person's OS is junk and has no value. That's bias. I don't think your love stems from marketing, same as most people that use iOS aren't swayed by marketing but rather their experiences with that platform.

Everyone has biases, some are worse than others. I don't really see too many iPhone folks saying anything that different to the Android folks. There are always outliers.

My daily driver is a Note 8, and I have a Panda Pixel XL on the way. May or may not get an iPhone X. So I don't have a dog in this fight other than to say the claims of sheep and ifans and fanboyism and all the rest rings hollow. The Pixel threads have been hilarious considering how line-in-the-sand most people were about what constituted a flagship and what constituted a flagship that was worth the money. That all seemed to change when the flagship in question was the OS of their flavor.

 

[M5RahuL]

The Verge wrote an article about it...

https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2017/...erriam-webster-sheeple-definition-iphone-ipad

Oh wow! ..... damn lol..

 

[I7guy]

Dude, no offense but 99% of your posts are also trying to predict the future. Thus it ends up a vicious cycle of nothing more than opinions about the future being used for a 50 page thread. I can predict it with accuracy, ok here goes:

Me: "I hope tomorrow will be a nice day, I'm a bit tired of the rain and the forecast says sunny skies"

I7guy: "The point being made all along is about the supposition. No matter what “we” may think “we” don’t know what the weather will truly be like. You never know what happens in the future so you can’t predict the future based on the past. Doing so is a result of observational bias."

Me: "Our other forum members and myself were just hoping tomorrow would be nice day, that's all"

I7guy: "Who is this “our” you speak about. I’m sure some people fit that profile and others, like me, don’t think the same way as you."

Me: "Just the tons of other members on the forum who really wish tomorrow will be full of sunshine and rainbows, I read an article earlier that said the first week of October usually has fair weather"

I7guy: "don't know who the "tons" are. That's a strawman argument. Some people might be and others might not be. Having articles written up doesn't mean there is a generic rule that "everybody" is."



Yep, just another 50 pages of debunking opinions and hopes left!!

So what are you saying?

Dude, no offense taken at all. I only offered an opinion about pissing Apple off as opposed to stating a fact that Samsung put Apple over a barrel and handed them the scraps left on the table. But thanks for proving the point.

 

[Tsepz]

[QUOTE="Tsepz, post: 25137459, member: 786632”]

Why do people who know nothing and don't care for Android choose to come here and talk rubbish about it.

To self-justify their ifanboyism ![/QUOTE]
It's crazy

There is 2-3 regulars, the 1 pops up every now and again, he has recently resurfaced once again.

It's like they come here to try makes us jealous of whatever they get out of Apple, but all they end up doing is making excuses for each poor decision Apple makes.

Anyway it makes for a good laugh.

I can't wait to see what Apple does next year. Last year they took out the 3.5m jack and added a dongle.....with a 3.5mm jack

This year they got an inferior AMOLED panel, renamed it and put a bezel in it.

I just can't get over how brilliantly they troll their own supporters, it's just beautiful

I hope they go for a Homerun next year, bring back TouchID and remove the notch, have a whole lot of the iFans backtracking on all their excuses.

I get the feeling this is just the beginning of the trolling by Apple, they know their hardcore fans will buy anything they give them an this point.

 

[I7guy]

In my opinion, Apple needs to take the display business into its own hands like their chips.

Okay fair enough.

 

[M5RahuL]

To self-justify their ifanboyism !

It's crazy

There is 2-3 regulars, the 1 pops up every now and again, he has recently resurfaced once again.

It's like they come here to try makes us jealous of whatever they get out of Apple, but all they end up doing is making excuses for each poor decision Apple makes.

Anyway it makes for a good laugh.

I can't wait to see what Apple does next year. Last year they took out the 3.5m jack and added a dongle.....with a 3.5mm jack

This year they got an inferior AMOLED panel, renamed it and put a bezel in it.

I just can't get over how brilliantly they troll their own supporters, it's just beautiful

I hope they go for a Homerun next year, bring back TouchID and remove the notch, have a whole lot of the iFans backtracking on all their excuses.

I get the feeling this is just the beginning of the trolling by Apple, they know their hardcore fans will buy anything they give them an this point.[/QUOTE]


It’s interesting to skim thru during lunch ..

 

[Radon87000]

You cannot be serious here. The notch is 100% subjective. It's not an "iFans" thing.

Some of you just will not accept that people prefer, with good reason for *them*, iOS to Android.

If some of you want to keep referencing how "iFans" change their tune, it was literally just a few weeks ago most on here insisted:

• iPhone 8's were just year over year iterative of the 7's and offered no value.
• Essential was a dud because it had no wireless charging, no headphone jack, and wasn't IP68 certified.
• $1K for a phone??? FAIL FAIL FAIL
• Apple charged outrageous prices for dongles.

Fast forward to the Pixel unveiling and suddenly:

• Regular Pixel and XL 2 are AMAZING despite being only incrementally different than last year's versions (the regular one being virtually identical).
• No wireless charging. No headphone jack. BUT OH MY GOD STILL AMAZING.
• Pixel XL with no wireless charging, no headphone jack is almost 1K?? SUCCESS SUCCESS SUCCESS GOOGLE'S GOT IT GOIN ON!!!
• Google USB C to 3.5 dongle: $20 (Apple's is $9).

Listen, it's really simple: you guys are good with it because you see *value* in what Android does. You prefer Android to iOS. Thus the other person's OS is junk and has no value. That's bias. I don't think your love stems from marketing, same as most people that use iOS aren't swayed by marketing but rather their experiences with that platform.

Everyone has biases, some are worse than others. I don't really see too many iPhone folks saying anything that different to the Android folks. There are always outliers.

My daily driver is a Note 8, and I have a Panda Pixel XL on the way. May or may not get an iPhone X. So I don't have a dog in this fight other than to say the claims of sheep and ifans and fanboyism and all the rest rings hollow. The Pixel threads have been hilarious considering how line-in-the-sand most people were about what constituted a flagship and what constituted a flagship that was worth the money. That all seemed to change when the flagship in question was the OS of their flavor.

The iPhone 8 does not add value over the 7 at all. Whats there apart from a TrueTone display, wireless charging and an improved camera? The wireless charging is also not exactly a feature as it needs a separate purchase. The Pixel XL2 comes with a bezelless OLED design and front facing speakers which are at least user facing differences. I consider the bezelless design itself a huge change. I am guessing the Pixel also comes with a fast charger bundled in while the iPhone doesn't even at $1000.

The removal of the jack is stupid though, I aghree on that.

 

[spinedoc77]

So what are you saying?

Dude, no offense taken at all. I only offered an opinion about pissing Apple off as opposed to stating a fact that Samsung put Apple over a barrel and handed them the scraps left on the table. But thanks for proving the point.

Proving what point? That you argue someone else's opinion with your opinion couched in a guise of fact? Ad nauseam for pages up on pages? And pages...and pages...

 

[I7guy]

Proving what point? That you argue someone else's opinion with your opinion couched in a guise of fact? Ad nauseam for pages up on pages? And pages...and pages...

That one doesn’t know what went on behind closed doors. I can’t even believe this has gone on for so long there is not one shred of evidence to support any opinion on this matter; which is the point, but people need to be positional.

 

[jamezr]

Don't reply @spinedoc77 ...its a trap! lol...you will get caught up in the endless rhetorical mind numbing contradictory black hole!

 

[spinedoc77]

That one doesn’t know what went on behind closed doors. I can’t even believe this has gone on for so long there is not one shred of evidence to support any opinion on this matter; which is the point, but people need to be positional.

Yes but YOU don't know what went on behind closed doors either. Sure we all like to make our educated guesses, but what use is there in vehemently arguing against other members stating their opinions? You ARE the definition of "positional", don't you realize that? You're not arguing with any facts or proof whatsoever, just stating your opinion on what you think didn't go on behind closed doors, for pages, upon pages... upon pages... up...on... pages... pa...ges.... p........

 

[jamezr]

Yes but YOU don't know what went on behind closed doors either. Sure we all like to make our educated guesses, but what use is there in vehemently arguing against other members stating their opinions? You ARE the definition of "positional", don't you realize that? You're not arguing with any facts or proof whatsoever, just stating your opinion on what you think didn't go on behind closed doors, for pages, upon pages... upon pages... up...on... pages... pa...ges.... p........

and he is getting sucked into the vortex lol

 

[FFR]

You cannot be serious here. The notch is 100% subjective. It's not an "iFans" thing.

Some of you just will not accept that people prefer, with good reason for *them*, iOS to Android.

If some of you want to keep referencing how "iFans" change their tune, it was literally just a few weeks ago most on here insisted:

• iPhone 8's were just year over year iterative of the 7's and offered no value.
• Essential was a dud because it had no wireless charging, no headphone jack, and wasn't IP68 certified.
• $1K for a phone??? FAIL FAIL FAIL
• Apple charged outrageous prices for dongles.

Fast forward to the Pixel unveiling and suddenly:

• Regular Pixel and XL 2 are AMAZING despite being only incrementally different than last year's versions (the regular one being virtually identical).
• No wireless charging. No headphone jack. BUT OH MY GOD STILL AMAZING.
• Pixel XL with no wireless charging, no headphone jack is almost 1K?? SUCCESS SUCCESS SUCCESS GOOGLE'S GOT IT GOIN ON!!!
• Google USB C to 3.5 dongle: $20 (Apple's is $9).

Listen, it's really simple: you guys are good with it because you see *value* in what Android does. You prefer Android to iOS. Thus the other person's OS is junk and has no value. That's bias. I don't think your love stems from marketing, same as most people that use iOS aren't swayed by marketing but rather their experiences with that platform.

Everyone has biases, some are worse than others. I don't really see too many iPhone folks saying anything that different to the Android folks. There are always outliers.

My daily driver is a Note 8, and I have a Panda Pixel XL on the way. May or may not get an iPhone X. So I don't have a dog in this fight other than to say the claims of sheep and ifans and fanboyism and all the rest rings hollow. The Pixel threads have been hilarious considering how line-in-the-sand most people were about what constituted a flagship and what constituted a flagship that was worth the money. That all seemed to change when the flagship in question was the OS of their flavor.

Poignant, but looks to have fallen on deaf ears.

 

[FFR]

The iPhone 8 does not add value over the 7 at all. Whats there apart from a TrueTone display, wireless charging and an improved camera? The wireless charging is also not exactly a feature as it needs a separate purchase. The Pixel XL2 comes with a bezelless OLED design and front facing speakers which are at least user facing differences. I consider the bezelless design itself a huge change. I am guessing the Pixel also comes with a fast charger bundled in while the iPhone doesn't even at $1000.

The removal of the jack is stupid though, I aghree on that.

I see the value with an upgraded screen and better camera. Don’t really care about wireless charging. A11 and upgraded speakers are plus.
I also upgraded from a an iPhone 7+.

 

[Zaft]

The iPhone 8 does not add value over the 7 at all. Whats there apart from a TrueTone display, wireless charging and an improved camera? The wireless charging is also not exactly a feature as it needs a separate purchase. The Pixel XL2 comes with a bezelless OLED design and front facing speakers which are at least user facing differences. I consider the bezelless design itself a huge change. I am guessing the Pixel also comes with a fast charger bundled in while the iPhone doesn't even at $1000.

The removal of the jack is stupid though, I aghree on that.

Phones are mature at this point. Not sure what else Apple could have added.