iPhone 8 or Note 8?

[I7guy]

Yes but YOU don't know what went on behind closed doors either. Sure we all like to make our educated guesses, but what use is there in vehemently arguing against other members stating their opinions? You ARE the definition of "positional", don't you realize that? You're not arguing with any facts or proof whatsoever, just stating your opinion on what you think didn't go on behind closed doors, for pages, upon pages... upon pages... up...on... pages... pa...ges.... p........

Fully agree, and that is what I’ve been saying all along. Positional means one has made up their mind without any evidence; that’s fine and dandy as an opinion goes, but I don’t have an opinion other than Apple appears to not take guff from anybody; eg qualcomm. And the other opinion is if one is making 4b from manufacturing my product I would like to keep that customer happy. But I could be wrong on that.

 

[Radon87000]

Phones are mature at this point. Not sure what else Apple could have added.

ProMotion Display(this is a huge one. After using this on my iPad every mobile device seems laggy in comparison), Apple Pencil Support, Dual Cameras for the smaller phone, OIS in both camera lens and portrait mode for front facing camera. They could also have reduced the bezels a tiny bit and increased screen size like they did with iPad Pro 10.5. This is just off the top of my head. I am sure Apple can think of more.

The iPhone X despite having a smaller display outclasses the 8 Plus in so many ways we even have people downgrading their screen size to get it. Bring in feature parity between the models.When was the last time iPhone 8 got any attention? I am not sure it’s an upgrade from even the 6s. Adding truetone, wireless charging and an improved camera just doesn’t cut it. The wireless charging and fast charging can’t even be called features because they require separate purchase

 

[Voodoochild346]

ProMotion Display(this is a huge one. After using this on my iPad every mobile device seems laggy in comparison), Apple Pencil Support, Dual Cameras for the smaller phone, OIS in both camera lens and portrait mode for front facing camera. They could also have reduced the bezels a tiny bit and increased screen size like they did with iPad Pro 10.5. This is just off the top of my head. I am sure Apple can think of more.

The iPhone X despite having a smaller display outclasses the 8 Plus in so many ways we even have people downgrading their screen size to get it. Bring in feature parity between the models.When was the last time iPhone 8 got any attention? I am not sure it’s an upgrade from even the 6s. Adding truetone, wireless charging and an improved camera just doesn’t cut it. The wireless charging and fast charging can’t even be called features because they require separate purchase

That will come in the next iPhone or the one after that. Large companies like Apple have road maps several years in advance. If you put too much in one version, the version after that won't have much to make the customer upgrade. Since Apple is the only one that makes IOS devices they have little reason to give you every feature immediately. Look at how long it took them to add wireless charging and oled panels to their product line.

 

[Michael Goff]

ProMotion Display(this is a huge one. After using this on my iPad every mobile device seems laggy in comparison), Apple Pencil Support, Dual Cameras for the smaller phone, OIS in both camera lens and portrait mode for front facing camera. They could also have reduced the bezels a tiny bit and increased screen size like they did with iPad Pro 10.5. This is just off the top of my head. I am sure Apple can think of more.

The iPhone X despite having a smaller display outclasses the 8 Plus in so many ways we even have people downgrading their screen size to get it. Bring in feature parity between the models.When was the last time iPhone 8 got any attention? I am not sure it’s an upgrade from even the 6s. Adding truetone, wireless charging and an improved camera just doesn’t cut it. The wireless charging and fast charging can’t even be called features because they require separate purchase

I don't think we'll see ProMotion on phones for a couple years, it likely draws a decent amount of power.

 

[Radon87000]

I see the value with an upgraded screen and better camera. Don’t really care about wireless charging. A11 and upgraded speakers are plus.
I also upgraded from a an iPhone 7+.

I see the value with an upgraded screen and better camera. Don’t really care about wireless charging. A11 and upgraded speakers are plus.
I also upgraded from a an iPhone 7+.

The screen is not really upgraded for me. I have used TrueTone on my iPad and I don’t like the yellowish effect it brings. It often results in a headache for me after extensive use. I would take ProMotion over TrueTone any day of the week. I don’t listen to music on speakers. The speakers only exist for ringtones and notification alerts. This is not an iPad used for movies. A CPU upgrade is also something which is a given but my 7 Plus is fast to begin with so I don’t think it will effect my usage in any meaningful way.

I find the iPhone X to classify as an upgrade for me. Sadly it costs as much as what I pay the equivalent for a 256GB 8 Plus for just 64GB storage. Apple could have at least made it 128GB.
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That will come in the next iPhone or the one after that. Large companies like Apple have road maps several years in advance. If you put too much in one version, the version after that won't have much to make the customer upgrade. Since Apple is the only one that makes IOS devices they have little reason to give you every feature immediately. Look at how long it took them to add wireless charging and oled panels to their product line.

Honestly the iPhone 7 was a bigger upgrade from the 6s then the 8 was from the 7. When you see the lack of portrait mode in the ffc which Google added in their $700 phone you realise the lack of effort being put in the lcd variants. I find the lack of front facing portrait mode and OIS in the second lens to be very basic shortcomings and the first thing I would have fixed coming from a 7. A small reduction in bezels like with the 10.5 iPad and making the screen of the Plus 5.8 inches would also make a big difference. Apple just stopped caring about this variant and put all their effort in the X (Which is hugely overpriced)and it shows.

Also in my opinion the Jet Black 7 Plus looks better than any of the 8 variants including that pink colour.
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I don't think we'll see ProMotion on phones for a couple years, it likely draws a decent amount of power.

Absolutely adore the effect though. A combination of iOS 10.3.3 and ProMotion is pure bliss. It’s so smooth I don’t even care about those iPad features they added in iOS 11 for fear of losing that smoothness. Everything under the sun except my 120hz monitor seems laggy in comparison once you use it.

 

[Ffosse]

I upgraded from the 7 to the 8 and am very happy with my decision; I normally buy 2 new phones a year, anyway.

 

[maflynn]

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[FFR]

The screen is not really upgraded for me. I have used TrueTone on my iPad and I don’t like the yellowish effect it brings. It often results in a headache for me after extensive use. I would take ProMotion over TrueTone any day of the week. I don’t listen to music on speakers. The speakers only exist for ringtones and notification alerts. This is not an iPad used for movies. A CPU upgrade is also something which is a given but my 7 Plus is fast to begin with so I don’t think it will effect my usage in any meaningful way.

I find the iPhone X to classify as an upgrade for me. Sadly it costs as much as what I pay the equivalent for a 256GB 8 Plus for just 64GB storage. Apple could have at least made it 128GB.
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Honestly the iPhone 7 was a bigger upgrade from the 6s then the 8 was from the 7. When you see the lack of portrait mode in the ffc which Google added in their $700 phone you realise the lack of effort being put in the lcd variants. I find the lack of front facing portrait mode and OIS in the second lens to be very basic shortcomings and the first thing I would have fixed coming from a 7. A small reduction in bezels like with the 10.5 iPad and making the screen of the Plus 5.8 inches would also make a big difference. Apple just stopped caring about this variant and put all their effort in the X (Which is hugely overpriced)and it shows.

Also in my opinion the Jet Black 7 Plus looks better than any of the 8 variants including that pink colour.
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Absolutely adore the effect though. A combination of iOS 10.3.3 and ProMotion is pure bliss. It’s so smooth I don’t even care about those iPad features they added in iOS 11 for fear of losing that smoothness. Everything under the sun except my 120hz monitor seems laggy in comparison once you use it.

It is an upgraded screen whether you care to acknowledge it or not.
Didn’t use the speakers much on the 7+, but have been using them a lot with the 8+., don’t think I can get a phone without it anymore.

No one is forcing you to get either. Get what you want.
No need to justify it.

You thought the same thing about the 7+ when it was released last year compared to the 6s+. Pages and pages of speculation on your part. Then you got 7+ and had a change of mind.

Coming from a 7 plus, the glass back on the 8+ has really grown on me, now I’m preferring it to the 7+.
To each their own.

 

[Radon87000]

It is an upgraded screen whether you care to acknowledge it or not.
Didn’t use the speakers much on the 7+, but have been using them a lot with the 8+., don’t think I can get a phone without it anymore.


No one is forcing you to get either. Get what you want.
No need to justify it.

You thought the same thing about the 7+ when it was released last year compared to the 6s+. Pages and pages of speculation on your part. Then you got 7+ and had a change of mind.

Coming from a 7 plus, the glass back on the 8+ has really grown on me, now I’m preferring it to the 7+.
To each their own.

We are just arguing opinions here. Its not an upgraded screen to me because I dont like the yellowish effect and the speakers dont matter to me as I dont listen to loudspeaker music. My 7 Plus is more then loud enough and I carry my Bose headphones everywhere I go.I am not justifying my decision in the slightest as I am getting these very features since I may plan to go for the X on the 27th but these are not the things I am getting the X for

You do not realise why I got the 7 Plus. I was on an iPhone 6 and wanted an upgrade after 2 years. I got the 7 Plus because there was no better iPhone available at the time. Not because it was a good upgrade. The speed and the bigger screen and dual cameras are what drove me to it. The 3DT, water resistance I didnt care for the slightest and the 8 does not have new features like this .Its going to happen with a lot of people this time around as the multitudes of customers waiting for the X will get disappointed come preorder date and just get the iPhone 8 as a second choice regardless of whether its an upgrade.

All my phones and tablets go in a case the second they are out of the box. In 4 years of owning iPhones and iPads, I think my interaction with the metal chassis shouldnt be over an hour. Therefore I dont care for the glass back

The X is what I call an good upgrade after waiting 4 years for one. Bezeless OLED display makes it a gamechanger for me

 

[jamezr]

Coming from a 7 plus, the glass back on the 8+ has really grown on me, now I’m preferring it to the 7+.
To each their own.

I like the glass back on my 8+ feels great in the hand. Love that it provides a means to wireless charging the most though!

 

[FFR]

Where would they get 50 Mil display panels that meet their specs? LG has proven they cannot meet those numbers and specs.



Not quite....the TMSC chip outperformed the Samsung chip....that switch was a no brainer.

About the memory chips.....Samsung still leads the sector in performance and availability.

Toshiba simply cannot compete with the performance and quantity Samsung can produce in NAND flash chips.


I have both an iPhone 8 Plus and a Note 8....side by side the Note 8 display is a lot better imho

Apple already secured 70 million displays for the iPhone x. By next year lg oled e6 plant will be online, and by 2019 japan display will have their oled plant up and running.

Same thing was said about Samsung’s soc. But that wasn’t true and tsmc secured exclusive a10 and a11 orders while Samsung was given the boot.

If they mess up with the iPhone x they will be off the supply chain for displays within the next two years just like what happened with the processors.

Given Samsung mobiles shrinking revenue, Samsung semiconductor and display are now the bulk of Samsung’s revenue going forward. They are not in a rentable position to lose its place on the Apple supply chain.

Regarding nand chips thats simply not true.
Toshiba and si Hynix have been supplying iPhones with NAND chips for a very long time. In fact Toshiba is the second largest manufacturer behind Samsung. And Apple just secured Toshiba as a supplier with a 2 billion dollar check. However Seagate, Kingston and Dell also contributed to the acquisition, also securing their share, and lessening their reliance on Samsung as a NAND supplier.

After the Samsung S7 edge duo I just can’t handle Samsung’s edge screen, especially in landscape or typing on the keyboard. a stylus won’t make a difference to me.

Regarding the note 8, speakers are rubbish.
I prefer the iPhone 8 plus. But we each use our phones differently. Maybe the s9 will have dual speakers or the note 9.

 

[FFR]

We are just arguing opinions here. Its not an upgraded screen to me because I dont like the yellowish effect and the speakers dont matter to me as I dont listen to loudspeaker music. My 7 Plus is more then loud enough and I carry my Bose headphones everywhere I go.I am not justifying my decision in the slightest as I am getting these very features since I may plan to go for the X on the 27th but these are not the things I am getting the X for

You do not realise why I got the 7 Plus. I was on an iPhone 6 and wanted an upgrade after 2 years. I got the 7 Plus because there was no better iPhone available at the time. Not because it was a good upgrade. The speed and the bigger screen and dual cameras are what drove me to it. The 3DT, water resistance I didnt care for the slightest and the 8 does not have new features like this .Its going to happen with a lot of people this time around as the multitudes of customers waiting for the X will get disappointed come preorder date and just get the iPhone 8 as a second choice regardless of whether its an upgrade.

All my phones and tablets go in a case the second they are out of the box. In 4 years of owning iPhones and iPads, I think my interaction with the metal chassis shouldnt be over an hour. Therefore I dont care for the glass back

The X is what I call an good upgrade after waiting 4 years for one. Bezeless OLED display makes it a gamechanger for me

Not quite.
Upgraded display is not opinion, Apple actually upgraded it. Your assertion that it isn’t an upgrade is an opinion. Stark difference.

It doesn’t matter why you got the 7+. You got it.
You spent months complaining that it wasn’t a true upgrade and anyone that has upgraded to the 7+!and is satisfied is some sort of sheep. Then you proceed to get the 7+ and now proclaim its a true upgrade over your last iPhone.

Your not very consistent with your views and opinions. That’s all.

Get what you want again no need to justify it to anyone.

Maybe skip you should skip the iPhone x and go note 8 this year.

I myself, think I’m going to preorder the x on the 27. I want to compare it to the 8plus at the very least.

 

[I7guy]

exactly...if we could get @Radon87000 to stop replying to him he eventually go away and take his rhetoric somewhere else.

It’s not about a specific poster. It’s about providing a point of view for the “internet”. Many people realize these discussions are viewed far and more than the 3 people who believe these forums belong to them.

 

[FFR]

I like the glass back on my 8+ feels great in the hand. Love that it provides a means to wireless charging the most though!

Wireless charging has been on your wishlist for quite some time.

 

[jamezr]

Wireless charging has been on your wishlist for quite some time.

I am really enjoying my 8+. It has been a very nice upgrade for me over the 7+

 

[yui4]

I am really enjoying my 8+. It has been a very nice upgrade for me over the 7+

Is iPhone fast charging on par with the Samsung equivalent?
That alone would be a decent reason to upgrade personally

 

[convergent]

I upgraded from the 7 to the 8 and am very happy with my decision; I normally buy 2 new phones a year, anyway.

What are you happy about with the move from 7 to 8. I had a 6s, and didn't see that it would be much of a change?

 

[Radon87000]

So went to the store and spent some time with the Galaxy S8. First impressions were the display is significantly smaller than my Plus, no getting around it. Text was smaller and everything seemed cramped. There was significant word wrapping and I didn't really like the experience.Dunno if it was Samsung's keyboard but I kept missing keys as I was so used to the expansive Plus keyboard. I don't think I would be able to tolerate the iPhone X screen size. Damn it Apple why didn't you come out with the X Plus for Plus owners. I like huge displays on all my gadgets.
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What are you happy about with the move from 7 to 8. I had a 6s, and didn't see that it would be much of a change?

TrueTone and speaker volume are upgrades to some users. It's completely subjective.

 

[convergent]

So went to the store and spent some time with the Galaxy S8. First impressions were the display is significantly smaller than my Plus, no getting around it. Text was smaller and everything seemed cramped. There was significant word wrapping and I didn't really like the experience.Dunno if it was Samsung's keyboard but I kept missing keys as I was so used to the expansive Plus keyboard. I don't think I would be able to tolerate the iPhone X screen size. Damn it Apple why didn't you come out with the X Plus for Plus owners. I like huge displays on all my gadgets.
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TrueTone and speaker volume are upgrades to some users. It's completely subjective.

Well if you were looking at the S8, you've got the S8+ and Note 8 that have a much bigger screen in roughly the same size package as your 7+. Its a little narrower, and a little taller. That is actually a great size for split screen in portrait mode because a video fits neatly at the top of the screen and you still have a pretty large are for doing something else.

Regarding the keyboard, I don't think you can expect to adjust to a keyboard while typing for a few minutes in a store. There are also plenty of other keyboard choices... probably someone makes a duplicate of the Apple Keyboard for Android. Honestly I find the type ahead on the iPhone to be horrible and getting worse, so I was happy to have something different. It just takes a while for muscle memory to learn it.

I don't honestly know much about TrueTone... I'm sure its great. Its one of those Pros/Cons things that comparing two phones will reveal on both sides. Volume-wise, I haven't seen a huge problem on this with any of my phones, but I guess it depends on the use cases.

Wireless charging is nice... so there is that too.

 

[FFR]

So went to the store and spent some time with the Galaxy S8. First impressions were the display is significantly smaller than my Plus, no getting around it. Text was smaller and everything seemed cramped. There was significant word wrapping and I didn't really like the experience.Dunno if it was Samsung's keyboard but I kept missing keys as I was so used to the expansive Plus keyboard. I don't think I would be able to tolerate the iPhone X screen size. Damn it Apple why didn't you come out with the X Plus for Plus owners. I like huge displays on all my gadgets.
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TrueTone and speaker volume are upgrades to some users. It's completely subjective.

Actually true tone is one, the other is support for hdr 10 and doubly vision on the devices display.

 

[Sevanw]

Is iPhone fast charging on par with the Samsung equivalent?
That alone would be a decent reason to upgrade personally

 

[jamezr]

Is iPhone fast charging on par with the Samsung equivalent?
That alone would be a decent reason to upgrade personally

No it is not even close to Samsung fast wireless charging

 

[Ulenspiegel]

I would prefer the iPhone.

 

[mi7chy]

iP8+ is disqualified until they resolve the battery swelling issue. Also, people have commented how the iPhone battery discharge rate seems fake since it's not anywhere close to linear but there's a peculiar and sudden drop off towards the end. Same fakeness appears to be happening here with charging rate that's not predictably close to linear.

 

[FFR]

I would prefer the iPhone.

Me too