There are lots of wireless chargers available for in car. Granted they require contact with a pad, so you have to slip your phone into a holder or lay it on a charger. Sure truly contact-less charging would be great, but we aren't there yet.
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iPhone 8 or Note 8?
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There are lots of wireless chargers available for in car. Granted they require contact with a pad, so you have to slip your phone into a holder or lay it on a charger. Sure truly contact-less charging would be great, but we aren't there yet.
Being more productive in a narrow niche is not being more productive. If I can’t use it due to software restrictions I’m not more productive, not to mention the sp4 form factor is slim and nice and not require a circular form factor and cables. Carrying my sp4 with keyboard cover is 100% compatible with my requirements; DEX 0%. These things don’t seem to workout no matter what the spin on them. I’m guessing it would be that way with most US knowledge workers.
I don't think that the productivity gains with the Note 8 are absolute, but they are also not completely tied to the DeX. Its probably a slight rounding error of Note 8 owners that have ever even heard of DeX, let alone have one and use it. If you have a Surface Pro, I would think the Note 8 having a pen would be productivity advantage. I use OneNote heavily with pen. What I found is that I can edit notes back and forth between Note 8 and Surface Pro with the respective pens on either side. That is actually pretty powerful. But if you feel that the Apple ecosystem is a huge productivity advantage, then it might weigh heavier. Given you are using a Surface Pro, however, you are already outside the ecosystem.
Surface pro costs 10x the price of DEX (not to mention much heavier/bulkier). If you are only doing basic web stuff (or just want a bigger viewing area)... DEX is much more compelling.
Samsung's Note 9 to come with under the screen fingerprint scanner according to Kuo. Wow Samsung is on fire lately. They don't need an ugly notch if they are successful,and can develop a full screen nezelless phone.
I don't necessarily want a fully bezeless phone. People are way too obsessed with that. The Note 8 is plenty sleek enough. I have to use it with a case to feel like I can use it properly one handed without it slipping around and activating random things. That's the last thing I want out of the Note line. An even thinner device.
Just because Apple doesn't give you a choice, doesn't mean that you apologize for them. Give me a fingerprint sensor any day over face scan.
Unless they can figure out how to do a camera under the screen, then there will still be a notch if they go completely bezel-less. Hopefully they realize we don't need a bezel-less phone. Agree that the Note 8 is plenty sleek already.
In real world usage one will never know the difference.
A declarative statement is not an “apology”. Apple will do with Face ID what they did with Touch ID; make it a gold standard.
Okay. Do they wire the money to your account or do they force you to cash your check in person?
My phone is unlocked before I stare at it. FaceID isn’t. So yes there is a huge difference.
No it’s not a “huge” difference, to me. Phone will be unlocked as soon as you look at it, you can’t operate a phone blindly. So it’s great it’s unlocked before your eyes look at the screen but that buys one nothing.
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That’s your response discussing Face ID and Fingerprint scanners?
After you look at it, it’s not instantly unlocked like TouchID. It takes a second or so. You even have to manually swipe up the lock screen. It’s just not as fast.
When you statements add though you are Apple's pr representative, I merely hoped that you would at least make a nominal sum for your efforts. You do realize that there was nothing except Apple's poor decision making that held them back from giving you multiple options for unlock like the Note 8 for instance did? Pay more for less features.
Unfortunately for buyers of the iPhone X, you are wrong. First off, there are many use cases that TouchID is better. I'll give you a few that I've used - discretely looking at your phone in a meeting while holding it under the table; glancing at it in a theater in the dark; etc. In these situations you won't have the phone up in front of your face. There are many other such cases. The only use case that FaceID is better is if your hands are wet or sweaty.
But aside from use case examples, FaceID has a max failed attempts of 2 vs. 5 with TouchID. So 2 tries and you have to go to PIN. I expect there will be a lot more PIN turns. There is nothing wrong with FaceID by itself. Its great tech and I'm sure Apple will do it well, maybe not initially, but eventually. But offering it as an only choice for security is frankly stupid. They should have kept TouchID and moved it to the back middle of the device. I would guess that Jony Ive was the one that wouldn't allow that, or maybe Tim didn't want to give up that additional cost.
You can defend Apple's bad choice all you want, but its still a bad choice.
We really don’t know how this will pan out until this phone gets in the wild and people start using it. And I’m not clear in how far and what angle the phone needs to be relative to your face. So it’s not about defending or bashing, I’m offering up an opinion. nobody will really know for a few months and then the jury will be out.
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What? Apples poor decision to you is apples great decision to someone else. Apple will never please everyone as no manufacturer can. Pay more for less features implemented best in class maybe. But we will find out.
I think we are all offering opinions... so no harm in that. I'm trying to be objectively skeptical. Failed attempts before PIN required - 2 vs. 5. - and use cases that clearly won't work with FaceID are what I mentioned as reasons they should have include FaceID and TouchID. If they had both, they could have also provided the option for bi-modal authentication which would have had value in some high security segments. From the outside looking in, what I am totally guessing about was what prompted something that appears do defy logic. And given its Apple, their design choices have predictably often been about things that don't matter to most users (i.e. its the thinnest iPhone we've ever made).
Looked and fondled the Note 8 today.
Not sure I like it. It performs very well, snappy.
But, something is going on with the size/dimensions of the screen/phone that just doesn't sit well with me. Not sure how to articulate it.
Going to wait for the iPhone X before I decide to upgrade from iPhone 6+.
Not sure I like it. It performs very well, snappy.
But, something is going on with the size/dimensions of the screen/phone that just doesn't sit well with me. Not sure how to articulate it.
Going to wait for the iPhone X before I decide to upgrade from iPhone 6+.
If you pick up and fondle a Galaxy S8 then you are close to the iPhone X form.
Hey do you respond to him with so much sense??? You are better off talking to a brick wall.
I have had him on ignore and now I see his constant apologizing and excuses because you keep quoting him!
Got so desperate to speak against the Note he even had to bring in the Surface Pro
that says enough.Speaking of the Surface, oh dear:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/04/surface/
Good thing I got my DeX.
We have already been shown how it works. With TouchID when you glance at your phone, it’s already unlocked and waiting for your input because it unlocked the moment you held the phone. FaceID won’t be as fast as that. The reason Apple went with faceID and kept TouchID under the screen as Plan B is to save potential research costs on how to achieve the latter. They could throw in a notch with the FaceID sensor and call it a day if customers are okay with it. Integrating it into the display and making a truly bezelless screen is much more difficult. It’s nothing but a cost vs benefit analysis being done by Apple. THere is absolutely no doubt it’s slower than TouchID and TouchID on the back should have been an option.
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I am just having some funHey do you respond to him with so much sense??? You are better off talking to a brick wall.
I have had him on ignore and now I see his constant apologizing and excuses because you keep quoting him!
Got so desperate to speak against the Note he even had to bring in the Surface Pro
Speaking of the Surface, oh dear:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/04/surface/
Good thing I got my DeX.
I did exactly that for years, having pen support in onenote in both my phone and my tablet is completely amazing. I can't tell you how much productivity it encouraged for me over the years. I kind of fell out of that routine though when MS went away from Wacom, I had to return my Note 7's last year, and the horrible curved screen on the Note 8 this year.
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But you have to factor in the cost and bulk/weight of the periperhals needed such as an external keyboard, mouse/trackpad and screen. Now if you have just a Dex station that stays at home and never travels, arguably you don't have to spend much more to get a decent windows laptop that will function much better than a smartphone, even for that basic stuff. Just my opinion, but I'd disagree that the Dex is more compelling than even just a cheap laptop.
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I'll wait and see how Face ID is in those situations where my face isn't in front of the phone. For me the facial ID on android devices is useless in many cases because of inconvenience. I'm hoping Apple gets this right, but currently fingerprint readers on the front of devices are the most useful.
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Isn't your MO to always bully others who "predict" the future?