We know the message which popped up. FaceID failed
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/12/16296912/apple-iphone-x-face-id-demo-fail
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...mbarrassing-demo-faceid-fail-iphone-x-launch/
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We know the message which popped up. FaceID failed
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/12/16296912/apple-iphone-x-face-id-demo-fail
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...mbarrassing-demo-faceid-fail-iphone-x-launch/
How? When people start using it, we will get to see how much or often it fails. It’s a given fact.
Same here. A notch in your movie screen... It's like reminding you of how awesome that movie COULD have looked (and looks on the Note 8!) if it wasn't for that big ass blotch on the side. I'm a bit OCD in general but that thing I can't stand, it's a true deal breaker for me.
What’s even more worrying for FaceID is that the demo devices must have been examined many times before being ready for use as it’s not like Apple to make an amateur mistake like this due to a glitch on stage.
My S+ requires a passcode anytime I haven't used my fingerprint in 24 hours, which is often, because the fingerprint reader often doesn't work for me anymore, just like with all my other Samsung phones so far. I've always had challenging fingerprints, so the HTC 10 and the iPhone 7 Plus have been the first phones to give me consistent success with print reading. I'm so used to entering my passcode that potential Face ID failures don't faze me. I actually fully expect Face ID to not work well for me because I have transition lenses that are also polarized.
Iris scanning was a huge no go for me because it hurts the hell out of my eyes for some reason. I've come across a few articles about that and I'm not the only one. I am fine with passcodes.
For me it's between IPhone 8 Plus and IPhone X. Note 8 isn't a contender for me anymore. I'm just not interested since I got my husband's iPad Pro and an Apple Pencil.
So the "story" is that the first iPhone that failed face ID was most likely just rebooted, or not touched for several hours? Interesting, I guess we will see when the reviews start coming in. I'm less and less a fan the more I think about it and will miss touch ID, especially on those days I wear sunglasses (most days).
I'm not sure how games and other full-screen apps might work, but for full screen video, you can tap the video to put it into true aspect ratio size, eliminating the notch from your video, but giving you smaller playback.
Demonstrated here at the 2:20-ish mark:
That’s what I’m saying. Nobody can predict how face id will operate in the real world. Apple would have to design it to be at least on par with Touch ID as far as failure attempts. And with face id dirty, sticky, clammy hands won’t affect it.
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So what? Probably pre-production hardware and software, in fact I’m surprised the number of keynote glitches isn’t more than they are, given apples pattern of releases. I honestly dont care not do I think it was embarrassing. But to each their own.
By right in real world use face id should be robust enough under any circumstances. If even under control environment during keynote it can fail then it may just means that there are a physical limitations to the technology even hardware/software couldn't overcome.
Unless it was preproduction hardware and software.
Face id should be robust no arguments there, but since few of us has a iPhone x in our hands, we’ll have to wait until November to see how all of this plays out as units gets shipped and real world usage trickles in.
As of now, Face ID isn't off to the roaring start it needs. As a consumer, I am quite skeptical about the form and function. The action of putting your hand to swipe up after it detects your face becomes more clunky and that piles up over time with the extra few seconds here and there. Touch ID was just one fluid motion. It didn't seem to be as quick as I would like and the finger swipe is just another hitch.
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Agreed on that, but I am on the skeptical side because this is the first time Apple is experimenting with this type of tech on a consumer level. Samsung had growing pains as well. If there is a time to get a new iPhone with Face ID, it is either mid 2018 or waiting for the 2018 models because it gives Apple time to give software updates to improve the experience or time to make adjustments to hardware.
I haven't ruled out a return to iPhone in 2018, but as of now, the Note 8 will do what I want and need.
[doublepost=1505314714][/doublepost]Would've gotten away with it too lol?
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You can be sure Apple has rehearsed that event many times before the reveal and each and every device is inspected for absolute perfection as any misstep in the Keynote can be very costly so whatever software was in that phone was stable and the ipsw for the GM also contains iPhone 8 code in it so it doesn’t necessarily use pre production hardware.
And if the phone rebooted due to a glitch that message doesn’t come up. It specifically states that pass needs to be entered after a reboot.
The message that Craig got happens with TouchID when unauthorised fingerprints are used to access the phone multiple times.
The tech world is eating this up in spite of the glitch. I do not believe any reputable rag thinks anything more of this than it is; a preproduction glitch with preproduction hardware and software.
And no matter what happened during the demo, the real test is in the sales of the iPhone x as well the real world experiences of users.
Looks like stage makeup interferes with Face ID considering that it worked after Craig Federighi wiped his face. Something they overlooked during R&D, QA and dry runs leading up to the event. Fortunately, as the VP of development and most knowledgeable about the technology he was able to quickly determine the root cause and corrective action.
If you're a non-makeup wearing male, Face ID will unlikely be an issue. For makeup wearing females, you should probably hold off until they improve it.
If you're a non-makeup wearing male, Face ID will unlikely be an issue. For makeup wearing females, you should probably hold off until they improve it.
Are you prepared to deal with future software updates to improve Face ID or possibly the 2nd gen to be head and shoulders above first gen? It's a fair premise considering other companies are struggling with the tech as well. It's not an indictment on Apple themselves. Rather, it is hard to mass produce something yearly and expect it to always be good enough to warrant an upgrade from consumers. If Samsung and Apple have trouble, it will be tougher for other firms because both are major juggernauts.
Real world tests at launch might not be indicative of how good Face ID can be or how much refining it needs.
Sure, but this will be watched fairly closely; as I’m sure you know. So right now we can’t speculate on the veracity of face id until it’s been out. But I’m sure it will require some tweaking as did Touch ID.
Apple will not allow an unoptimised iOS version to ruin the Keynote. You can now be sure that FaceID is going to be examined with a microscope thanks to the bad publicity. That's how dangerous it can be
I really hope for Apple's sake (and my wallet's) it works with the same reliability as TouchID which at this point all Apple customers and even Android users thinking about switching are used to. If it doesn't, add in the price of this phone and Apple's going to be put on full blast everywhere
Yep, it should be a good launch because I will say this: the iPhone X is the first iPhone I can say, in awhile, that goes tick for tack on specs and features together. I think the S-Pen swings the pendulum towards the Note 8 for me because I am intrigued about actually enhancing my phone experience by forcing myself to use it more, especially for short note reminders instead of texting myself notes.
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Not sure how you know what Apple can or will do or not or what was even running on the phone; my hypothesis is preproduction. I haven’t seen any bad publicity, in fact seems to be overwhelmingly positive for any journal that means anything.
Is it dangerous no. Apple is still probably tweaking the software and will be up to the last minute.
If not Apple will go from a trillion dollar company to zero dollar company.
Do you have any explanation for the message? Try restarting your device and then try TouchID and note the message. Then use an incorrect finger multiple times and fail the authorisation. The message matches the one on the screen.
Even on alpha software, the worst scenario would be a reboot which doesnt explain the message.
You havent seen bad publicity? TheVerge,Telegraph,BBC,CNN? Heck their stock price dropped after it failed
Bingo.
Which is a real issue
[doublepost=1505326235][/doublepost]I don't understand the iPhone 8. It's a Cook idea I think to keep the money coming in
Yeah. If it was the Apple of 2011 the iPhone 10 would have been the iPhone 8. The current 8 is in reality a 7S(Although the update is so minor it can’t even be called S tbh). But that would make people believe the 7S is a whole 3 gen behind the iPhone 10 and hence the marketing lingo.
They are now giving the second class citizen treatment to the Plus lineup. The smaller phone didn’t get the High res display or the dual cameras and was languishing. Now it’s the 8 Plus’s turn. No OIS in the second lens. Laughable.
