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Since we are discussing nazi salutes

Elizabeth Warren


Barack Obama


Kamala Harris
 
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You must think WWII stands for World War Woke the second.
That is so disingenuine. To even compare the US now to how bad Weimar Germany was post WWI shows how out of touch you are. Post WWI Germany was a matchbox soaked in gasoline. The US might be a bundle of dry newspaper, but to compare the reality on the ground to the rise of Nazi Germany is ignorant of history.
 
Since we are discussing nazi salutes

Elizabeth Warren


Barack Obama


Kamala Harris


Curious to see if this stays or if macrumors has become infested..
Post is willfully disingenuous and an insult to the intelligence of members of this forum, showing screen grabs of a moment when politicians gestured, as opposed to any of those being a salute. These images have been flying around online since the Elon apologists have been trying to distract and minimize what we all saw, with our own eyes. And that he did it twice, to make sure the folks in the cheap seats saw it too.

Have your opinion about what Musk did and what it means, but let's not drag this place down to the level of 4chan childish discourse.
 
No difference than you taking someone motioning thank you from their heart out to a crowd out of context.

If that is what he was doing ...

Why has he not been clearly explaining that is what he was actually doing?

And why does his version of it look exactly like a Nazi salute?

And why did he appear by video at an event for Germany's far Right party?

The leader of that party, by the way, Björn Höcke, has twice been fined by a German court for using a banned Nazi slogan.
 
If that is what he was doing ...

Why has he not been clearly explaining that is what he was actually doing?

And why does his version of it look exactly like a Nazi salute?

And why did he appear by video at an event for Germany's far Right party?

The leader of that party, by the way, Björn Höcke, has twice been fined by a German court for using a banned Nazi slogan.
He literally did...tell me you didn't look at the context without telling me you didn't look at the context. You don't want to look at the evidence because it's pretty dang obvious what he was doing...awkard hand motion by a autistic dude known for being incredibly awaward yes...nazi solute...no, this is so disingenuous.
 
If that is what he was doing ...

Why has he not been clearly explaining that is what he was actually doing?

And why does his version of it look exactly like a Nazi salute?

And why did he appear by video at an event for Germany's far Right party?

The leader of that party, by the way, Björn Höcke, has twice been fined by a German court for using a banned Nazi slogan.
And he unbanned the Holocaust deniers of Twitter, dramatically reducing the ad income because people don’t want to put their ads next to Homer Holocaust-What-Holocaust.
 
He literally did...tell me you didn't look at the context without telling me you didn't look at the context. You don't want to look at the evidence because it's pretty dang obvious what he was doing...awkard hand motion by a autistic dude known for being incredibly awaward yes...nazi solute...no, this is so disingenuous.
Hitler salute. Disingenuous, nothing. Nazi doing Nazi things.
 
If that is what he was doing ...

Why has he not been clearly explaining that is what he was actually doing?

And why does his version of it look exactly like a Nazi salute?

And why did he appear by video at an event for Germany's far Right party?

The leader of that party, by the way, Björn Höcke, has twice been fined by a German court for using a banned Nazi slogan.
I'd guess he hasn't explained it, because it was obvious. You're acting like he did it yelling "Sieg Heil." Again - context. Pay attention to what he is saying or its no different than Kamala Harris making the same motion and you are able to acknowledge how silly that is.

And I can't even follow you going down this rabbit hole of somebody else that was fined by a German court - make an actual point where Elon Musk did anything wrong.

The ADL even came to his defense here.


"It seems that
@elonmusk

made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge."

Take your tin foil hat off and don't get worked up so much over nothing. Just be happy and thankful your president is out there working for you regardless of whether you voted for him or not.
 
I'd guess he hasn't explained it, because it was obvious. You're acting like he did it yelling "Sieg Heil." Again - context. Pay attention to what he is saying or its no different than Kamala Harris making the same motion and you are able to acknowledge how silly that is.

And I can't even follow you going down this rabbit hole of somebody else that was fined by a German court - make an actual point where Elon Musk did anything wrong.

The ADL even came to his defense here.


"It seems that
@elonmusk

made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge."

Take your tin foil hat off and don't get worked up so much over nothing. Just be happy and thankful your president is out there working for you regardless of whether you voted for him or not.
What a crock.
 
And he unbanned the Holocaust deniers of Twitter, dramatically reducing the ad income because people don’t want to put their ads next to Homer Holocaust-What-Holocaust.
He also was with a bunch of Jews at Auschwitz’s last year denouncing the evils the Nazis and saying it can never again and supports the state of Israel….

So he’s a Zionist and a Nazi…got it (Eyeroll)

Allowing free speech on his platform even negative speech and shrinking the size of government is literally the opposite of a fascist…
 
He also was with a bunch of Jews at Auschwitz’s last year denouncing the evils the Nazis and saying it can never again and supports the state of Israel….

So he’s a Zionist and a Nazi…got it (Eyeroll)

Allowing free speech on his platform even negative speech and shrinking the size of government is literally the opposite of a fascist…
But but he's not on my team, so he has to be a fascist. The casual tossing around of very strong terms and vigilant adherence to identity politics is really gross. This is done to just about everyone that demonstrates an ability to connect with people to try to drive a wedge. Then these same folks look around and just can't understand why "we" are so divided.
 
He also was with a bunch of Jews at Auschwitz’s last year denouncing the evils the Nazis and saying it can never again and supports the state of Israel….

So he’s a Zionist and a Nazi…got it (Eyeroll)

Allowing free speech on his platform even negative speech and shrinking the size of government is literally the opposite of a fascist…
He didn’t allow free speech on his platform. That’s precisely why it very quickly devalued.
What he designed was a platform were those who were willing to pay were easily and quickly able to minimise rational conversation in favour of their disinformation.

Imagine you’re on a park bench having a perfectly intelligent conversation with someone. An idiot with a megaphone stands next to you drowning you in nonsense about dog eating immagrunts. You move, the idiot follows you.

Is that free speech?

I’d argue not. Precisely because the topic of your conversation would change to “That idiot with the megaphone and his anti immigration nonsense” rather than “should I buy a new MacBook Air”
 
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He also was with a bunch of Jews at Auschwitz’s last year denouncing the evils the Nazis and saying it can never again and supports the state of Israel….

So he’s a Zionist and a Nazi…got it (Eyeroll)

Allowing free speech on his platform even negative speech and shrinking the size of government is literally the opposite of a fascist…
He was there on an apology tour after retweeting anti-semetic garbage. So that's not the win you think it is.

He sparked an outcry in November, including from the White House, when he responded on X to a user who accused Jews of hating white people and professing indifference to antisemitism by posting, “You have said the actual truth.”

Yep, sounds like a real friend of Israel.

Look, I have a degree in German History. I will concede Elon isn't a Nazi. But he is absolutely fascist-curious. He supports a politician who is putting minorities in camps. He's stripping away Congress' power to make the executive the end all and be all of the state. And, while all of you saying "it wasn't a Hitlergruß", neo-nazis on Twitter certainly thought it was. So maybe you can understand why some of us aren't convinced he's not a fascist?
 
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