Which in turn means Samsung is selling boatloads as well. I don't know if there is any other OEM that can honestly say when my closest rival wins, I win. Gotta be a good feeling.
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iPhone X vs S8 screen? Which one is better?
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Which in turn means Samsung is selling boatloads as well. I don't know if there is any other OEM that can honestly say when my closest rival wins, I win. Gotta be a good feeling.
From Displaymate
Overall rating grade: IPX is A+, S8 is A+, Note8 is A+
I think displaymate is very good at the techniques but they are crap at presenting/reporting info
When S8 came out they went and say "best display in smartphone"
When Note 8 came out they went and say "best display in smartphone"
When IPX came out they went and say "best display in smartphone"
So are all of them are "best display in smartphone" since all of them got A+? At least give a point rating for finer comparison.
After reading through long winded report:
Resolution
IPX: 458ppi 5.5mil subpixels
S8/Note8: 570ppi/521ppi 8.5mil subpixels
Color:
IPX highest accurate color non selectable mode
S8/Note8, 4 user selectable accurate color screen modes,
Brightness (higher is better)
IPX: Avg (700) , Peak (804), Contrast rating: 141-189
S8/Note8: Avg (485 / 525), Peak (1020 / 1240), Contrast Rating: (128-227 / 122-270 )
Viewing angle (30deg) brightness lost (lower is better)
IPX: 22%
S8/Note8: 29%
Largest Color shifts 30 deg (lower is better)
IPX: 6.2
S8/Note8: 4.8 / 5
Others
IPX: True Tone (auto adjust white balance based on ambient light)
S8/Note8 : Adaptive (with front/back ambient light sensor for better auto brightness control),
AOD (on-chip support)
Actually... they didn't say that... see the next post that did a good job of interpreting a site that says multiple same generation smartphones have the "best smartphone display". The only area that the X seems to have done better was color accuracy, which is not necessarily that important on a phone. Accuracy doesn't automatically equate to pleasing. Look at all the people posting display issues on the X.
What issues? The the screen starts going blue or pink or yellow from a side angle? Who the heck cares? Also who looks at their phone like that? This is just people looking for something to complain about.
Right... because everyone who spends $1000+ for a phone that they've waited for a long time to get, and then battled to get on the first day, has nothing better to do than go on a forum and make up problems about their phone. Its not just color shift. Many are reporting off color screens. Here is one of the threads - https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...shifted-display.2083752/page-27#post-25416018
This happens with every iPhone or android phone. When it first releases, people look for every possible issue they can with the phone. How about everyone just enjoy their device (what ever the choice is), and stop looking for things to be wrong with them.
You don't think someone that spent that much for a phone, where the main new thing about it is the display, shouldn't try to get it resolved if its not right? Reading the accounts in the thread, there are people that appear to have real issues.
Well, that's Samsung Display, which is a different company than Samsung mobile. While they all belong to the same holding company, the display money doesn't go straight back into the Galaxy line. Samsung mobile is another customer with a more sweetheart deal.
Because the when you rotate your phone the screen kind of has a blue hue to it, that needs to be fixed? I don’t think it’s an issue at all. Sure if they display has issues like lines or dead pixels, those need to be fix. The issue I was referring to was the color shift when you Phone is viewed at an angle. That is not something that needs to be fixed.
First of all, you asked me what issues I was talking about. The thread I referred you to had several issues people are reporting, only one of them being color shift. People are reporting color shift at minor angle changes. To me, that would be an issue for me. Other people are reporting yellowish displays. They are seeing differences from one X to the other in the store. There are some real problems there... it remains to be seen if Apple will do anything about it, or sit on their preemptive statement that this is expected with OMLED. I don't have the problems reported in that thread with the Note 8, so I don't think it is just expected. I wonder if they will get to "you are looking at it wrong".
Exactly...I don't have the problems being reported by iPhone X owners displays on my Note 8....
That first question was me being a smart ass. I don’t think for a second these complaints are legit at all. As I stated before, we get all these types of complaints right after an iPhone release every year. People looking for things that are wrong with their phones. I have an X and have no such issues at all. Most of the people I have seen post here, never show evidence just say there is something wrong. And no there are not “real” problems with the iPhone X display. The only phone right now that has screen issues is the Pixel 2 xl.
I have a Surface Pro. I have no display problems. Many people I talked to went through several copies with display problems. I never doubted they had problems, I just did not.
You have an X that has no problems, so therefore anyone who does report a problem is a liar and has nothing better do than make up elaborate stories of experiences in Apple stores trying go get resolution.
And FYI, if you go through that thread I linked you to, some people did post pictures, so apparently you didn't read it.
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I never said Apple could do no wrong. There are issues with screens on the X just like every phone company has. Not every single Note 8 was perfect either, but you saying they have “real” issues with the screen is complete garbage. Again there are issues that people have, but it’s not some wide spread thing that is affecting a ton of iPhones. Is a small # of people that are affected.
I never said anything about how many people had issues. I said they were real issues. You said they were not.
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I don't think brightness has been a point of discussion. Accuracy, is not what most people think it is, and certainly doesn't equate to better or more pleasing. Accuracy is important only when trying to match across multiple devices, like having a print match what is on screen. But having an accurate phone screen alone doesn't do it in that scenario, all devices would need to be calibrated.
The human eye can adjust for different color temperatures that we deal with every day. Everyone's eyes are different, and what people consider pleasing to the eye is also going to vary. What one person might hate, another person might like.
I'm just saying that color accuracy doesn't necessarily make a display better in the eyes of the user.
What are “real issues”? Are you saying it like Apple has some problems on their hands, or there are users that are having actual issues with their screens and not just making stuff up? I was taking it as you saying Apple has some real problems on their hands with the screen of the X.
I’m not sure on what a “user” wants, but I would like my screen to be accurate. Being accurate is part of being pleasing and accuracy is not only for matching against multiple devices.
I believe color accuracy does make a display better in the users eyes; at least that is the case for me.
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Yeah, all of apples suppliers.
Are you serious? What is a real issue? I'm pretty sure that if a customer has a defective product, then it is an issue for the customer and the company that made it. What am I missing here? Or are you saying that Apple should just not care and just giving new iPhones out if someone has a problem and don't worry about it. Or in the case of one store, replace it with one that has the same problem and then not let the customer return it because it had been replaced.
You have eyes that can detect whether a display is calibrated or not? Have you ever calibrated a display? I have many times, and I can not look at a display (with no calibrated reference to compare against) and have any clue if its accurate or not, unless it is way off. Ambient light can greatly impact this.
If color accuracy equals a pleasing experience, then why do all stores that sell TVs turn up the saturation and other settings to give the image more "punch" when they are trying to sell you a TV? Surely they would not want to make the image less pleasing while trying to get you to buy it.
Whether my eyes can detect whether a rendition is color accurate or not is not the issue and along those lines why even sell calibrated displays or monitors? Nobody’s eyes can discern differences.
Some people might want to know for their own reasons, not for yours, that what is being reviewed on a screen is accurate as opposed to guessing.
And yes, I’ve calibrated my display and have an 18% grey card.
And for your last point over-saturation is not pleasing to me.
I don’t think you understand what I am saying, so I will try this once more. So a real issues in others words major issue is something like the Note 7 exploding and catching on fire. If you think that a few screens of the iPhone X having a few issues is the same, then I am done talking with you. Like I said before, sure there are issues with some device screens, and Apple will happily replace them for customers if that is the issue. Telling me that people are seeing color shifts off axis and dimmer screens is garbage. Comparing sales unit to a display model tells us nothing. I believe the display models are set to max brightness all the time. If someone has their phone set to auto, it hardly ever gets to max. Also you have remember everyone is setting up there Phone for the weekend. When it’s backing up and downloading everyone’s user data, the phone throttles and the screen gets dimmer. This is nothing new. So yes you are completely missing to answer you question.
Also I ask you, did you read the thread you posted here? To claim this as a major issue and post to that thread as your evidence is a joke. There is nothing wrong this the OPs display. It’s your typical Apple user that has never used an OLED before. It takes some getting use to. I have seen some threads with actual issues, but that has only been a few people. That makes more sense then the one you posted.
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It's interesing that apple fans are now touting specs and techs as measures of user performance as opposed to real world usage. This is quite the reversal.
For the screen on the X, it may have some leading specs over the Note and Galaxy screens, but the Samsung screens are much more usable in the hand. No notch for starters, better resolution and higher max peak brightness and ambient/reflecting ratio make for a better experience.
Same with the internals, the X has better bench test results but the Note and Galaxy have better Ram and App performance leading to a better experience.
It's almost like Apple are losing direction and focus (by maximising revenue imho.)
For the screen on the X, it may have some leading specs over the Note and Galaxy screens, but the Samsung screens are much more usable in the hand. No notch for starters, better resolution and higher max peak brightness and ambient/reflecting ratio make for a better experience.
Same with the internals, the X has better bench test results but the Note and Galaxy have better Ram and App performance leading to a better experience.
It's almost like Apple are losing direction and focus (by maximising revenue imho.)
I said people were having issues with the X display. The thread I linked to is up to 31 pages of people talking about their display issues. They are real. They have posted pictures.
I never used the word "major" in anything I've posted here. I simple said, "look at all the people posting display issues on the X". You on the other hand apparently don't consider something to be an issue unless planes are blowing up. I have a different threshold for a $1000+ device, and apparently 31 pages of comments from other people would say they do too. You've dismissed these "issues" as people that are unfamiliar with OLED. I don't think you even read any of the comments in that thread, in fact I know you didn't. The folks that are comparing their issues to display units specifically said they verified the settings were the same, yet you said settings being different is why they look different. The pictures they posted show very different color on different samples with the same settings.
So I think its you that aren't listening. I've been quite clear and everything I've posted its accurate.
Oh there is another supplier for the iPhone that has Apple as it's closest rival? Which one is that?
Ok say whatever you would like. I have nothing else to add to this. You think the display is this huge issue, go for it. Well see how that holds up in a couple of months when this is the highest selling iPhone to date, and maybe smartphone with few returns on it.