iPhone X vs S8 screen? Which one is better?

[convergent]

Ok say whatever you would like. I have nothing else to add to this. You think the display is this huge issue, go for it. Well see how that holds up in a couple of months when this is the highest selling iPhone to date, and maybe smartphone with few returns on it.

You really seem to have a mental block on the difference between an "issue" and a "huge issue". Its not binary. And I also never said that it was going to effect iPhone sales on some big level. You are putting words in mouth. Are you unable to process that something Apple makes can have an "issue". I would imagine that nearly every product they've made since Mac Rumors has existed will have some threads with people reporting issues. My Apple Watch face popped off. It didn't stop me from liking the Apple Watch. Stuff happens. Manufacturing is not perfect. I'm sure Apple will sell a lot of iPhone Xs. They better, because based on their pace of redesigns, they are going to be making X or Xs variants for probably the next 4-5 years. My guess is many of those who are returning them now will circle back in a year and try again.

 

[bmac4]

You really seem to have a mental block on the difference between an "issue" and a "huge issue". Its not binary. And I also never said that it was going to effect iPhone sales on some big level. You are putting words in mouth. Are you unable to process that something Apple makes can have an "issue". I would imagine that nearly every product they've made since Mac Rumors has existed will have some threads with people reporting issues. My Apple Watch face popped off. It didn't stop me from liking the Apple Watch. Stuff happens. Manufacturing is not perfect. I'm sure Apple will sell a lot of iPhone Xs. They better, because based on their pace of redesigns, they are going to be making X or Xs variants for probably the next 4-5 years. My guess is many of those who are returning them now will circle back in a year and try again.

Did I not say this same thing several post ago? Every phone never made has some phones that have issues. There are Note 8’s that have issues. There is just not a fan site like Mac Rumors for Note 8 user to cry about their new phone.

 

[KingslayerG5]

As long as both are better than Pixel 2 XL's...

 

[Fernandez21]

Funny how everyone just keeps trying to defend “their team”. When Galaxies had the best “empirical” screens, Samsung fans touted display mates while Apple fans touted real world use. Now that Apple has a screen that tests better, it’s the opposite with Apple fans touting display mate while Samsung fans tout real world use.

And same with the speed test, how many times have Samsung fans dismissed those speed test because Apple came out on top, but now that the Note 8 comes out faster suddenly it’s valid.

Seriously, it’s almost as bad as politics. .....almost.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Funny how everyone just keeps trying to defend “their team”. When Galaxies had the best “empirical” screens, Samsung fans touted display mates while Apple fans touted real world use. Now that Apple has a screen that tests better, it’s the opposite with Apple fans touting display mate while Samsung fans tout real world use.

And same with the speed test, how many times have Samsung fans dismissed those speed test because Apple came out on top, but now that the Note 8 comes out faster suddenly it’s valid.

Seriously, it’s almost as bad as politics. .....almost.

I get your point, and to a degree you are right.

But the majority of Samsung fans have always complained about saturation, edges( and it's color effects), and etc. The manual color settings added on to the presets is the result from critics of Samsung users themselves.

Before the X, it's really been more about OLED vs LCD and resolution, something that was too drastic for color accuracy to make a difference in determining what display is better. And the proof is how X users are reacting to OLED. It's almost a given most would not go back.

Previous Samsung phones never won over the iPhone based on color accuracy, it was for different reasons(as stated above) that had Samsung phones wearing the display crown.

 

[torana355]

Funny how everyone just keeps trying to defend “their team”. When Galaxies had the best “empirical” screens, Samsung fans touted display mates while Apple fans touted real world use. Now that Apple has a screen that tests better, it’s the opposite with Apple fans touting display mate while Samsung fans tout real world use.

And same with the speed test, how many times have Samsung fans dismissed those speed test because Apple came out on top, but now that the Note 8 comes out faster suddenly it’s valid.

Seriously, it’s almost as bad as politics. .....almost.

Its human nature to defend your purchase, we all do it to some degree. OS aside the iPhone X and Note 8 are both terrific phones, on a forum like this it's normal to debate even the smallest of differences between devices.

I try to stick to reviews from reputable sources and if Displaymate are saying the iPhone X screen is the winner then so be it. I think in practice the difference between the two is mostly negligible so its not worth getting to worked up over. Also where one display excels in one area, the other may excel in a different area. Even after all of that the main factor that decides what phone we will buy is the OS itself and as we know people either prefer Android or iOS.

 

[Technarchy]

There’s always a contingent of “the sky is falling types” with every major release.

Remember this one:
http://bgr.com/2017/04/19/galaxy-s8-red-tint-screen-issue/

Widely reported, lots of YouTube vids and click bait commentary which ultimately was much ado about nothing.

 

[Tsepz]

Are people surprised about Displaymate's results? I think some here thought the note 8 would win because it's a 1st party device, some even suggesting Apple's oled displays were basically beta and/or old gen displays from Samsung.

Not to say Displaymate is the gospel, but people consider it a reference source for judging display quality.

All things considered, I am not actually surprised, Samsung have always been known for over saturation, making the colours pop as much as they possibly can, while other phone companies strive for more realistic colours, as Apple does, and this seems to be what won it for the iPhone X.

 

[Tsepz]

From Displaymate

Overall rating grade: IPX is A+, S8 is A+, Note8 is A+

I think displaymate is very good at the techniques but they are crap at presenting/reporting info

When S8 came out they went and say "best display in smartphone"
When Note 8 came out they went and say "best display in smartphone"
When IPX came out they went and say "best display in smartphone"

So are all of them are "best display in smartphone" since all of them got A+? At least give a point rating for finer comparison.

After reading through long winded report:

Resolution
IPX: 458ppi 5.5mil subpixels
S8/Note8: 570ppi/521ppi 8.5mil subpixels

Color:
IPX highest accurate color non selectable mode
S8/Note8, 4 user selectable accurate color screen modes,

Brightness (higher is better)
IPX: Avg (700) , Peak (804), Contrast rating: 141-189
S8/Note8: Avg (485 / 525), Peak (1020 / 1240), Contrast Rating: (128-227 / 122-270 )

Viewing angle (30deg) brightness lost (lower is better)
IPX: 22%
S8/Note8: 29%

Largest Color shifts 30 deg (lower is better)
IPX: 6.2
S8/Note8: 4.8 / 5

Others
IPX: True Tone (auto adjust white balance based on ambient light)
S8/Note8 : Adaptive (with front/back ambient light sensor for better auto brightness control),
AOD (on-chip support)

This is a brilliant Summation of it.

 

[Regime2008]

Control Center is greatly missed on my Pixel 2, however, I do like having the fingerprint sensor enabled so I can swipe down to access notifications and controls. Though, I wish I could flip it to bring controls first, then notifications. Maybe in 8.2 .

Haven't tried it...."But there's an app for that!"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamemalt.fingerprintgestures

Check this out!

 

[mib1800]

Haven't tried it...."But there's an app for that!"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamemalt.fingerprintgestures

Check this out!

I use Pie Control (one of the best for one-handed use). Swipe from screen edge (at various angles) to activate home,back,notification,task or apps.

 

[Regime2008]

I use Pie Control (one of the best for one-handed use). Swipe from screen edge (at various angles) to activate home,back,notification,task or apps.

That sounds alot like the same pie control that was baked into some custom roms back in the day! That's so cool that they still have it!

 

[Michael Goff]

I wonder how close SAMOLED Cinema mode is to DCI P3 or Basic is to sRGB.

 

[thunng8]

I wonder how close SAMOLED Cinema mode is to DCI P3 or Basic is to sRGB.

No need to wonder - right from displaymate for average color error. There's also largest color error listed but I'll let you read the review to get the full numbers

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm

Note 8
Cinema mode: 3.4 JNCD from P3
Basic mode: 3.1 JNCD from sRGB
Adaptive: 10.7 JNCD from sRGB (absolutely shocking result)

iPhone X (no need to change color modes):
0.9 JNCD from P3
1.0 JNCD from sRGB

 

[convergent]

Did I not say this same thing several post ago? Every phone never made has some phones that have issues. There are Note 8’s that have issues. There is just not a fan site like Mac Rumors for Note 8 user to cry about their new phone.

I never said there were no Note 8s with issues. In fact, I said that every product ever made you will find some with issues. I don't see the point in continuing to argue about this. Its pointless. I will also say that some of the people in that thread I linked to have real issues, and some are just being ridiculous. There are some Apple fans that accept nothing short of perfection (in their minds).

Funny how everyone just keeps trying to defend “their team”. When Galaxies had the best “empirical” screens, Samsung fans touted display mates while Apple fans touted real world use. Now that Apple has a screen that tests better, it’s the opposite with Apple fans touting display mate while Samsung fans tout real world use.

And same with the speed test, how many times have Samsung fans dismissed those speed test because Apple came out on top, but now that the Note 8 comes out faster suddenly it’s valid.

Seriously, it’s almost as bad as politics. .....almost.

I'm not trying to defend anything. I'm trying to have an objective discussion. If you go back a page or so and look at the analysis of the different Displaymate reviews, you will see that they awarded multiple phones with "the best smartphone display". If you look at the different data points they each have areas they were best at. I don't know how a site like that can label things the best, and then keep labeling more things the best. They either need to change the scale to something like excellent, good, etc.. so multiple devices can be at their top tier, or go with a numeric total score.

The X was best, only in the color accuracy category. That may or may not be the most important attribute to you.

 

[FFR]

I never said there were no Note 8s with issues. In fact, I said that every product ever made you will find some with issues. I don't see the point in continuing to argue about this. Its pointless. I will also say that some of the people in that thread I linked to have real issues, and some are just being ridiculous. There are some Apple fans that accept nothing short of perfection (in their minds).



I'm not trying to defend anything. I'm trying to have an objective discussion. If you go back a page or so and look at the analysis of the different Displaymate reviews, you will see that they awarded multiple phones with "the best smartphone display". If you look at the different data points they each have areas they were best at. I don't know how a site like that can label things the best, and then keep labeling more things the best. They either need to change the scale to something like excellent, good, etc.. so multiple devices can be at their top tier, or go with a numeric total score.

The X was best, only in the color accuracy category. That may or may not be the most important attribute to you.

That really sound like your grasping at straws.
In regards to display mates, when they reviewed those phones they were the best. Now display mate gave the title to the iPhone X.

Perhaps you can email displaymate and ask them to update their previous reviews?

 

[mib1800]

That really sound like your grasping at straws.
In regards to display mates, when they reviewed those phones they were the best. Now display mate gave the title to the iPhone X.

Perhaps you can email displaymate and ask them to update their previous reviews?

Well, X , S8 and note 8 all got A+ rating from display mate. Are your saying A+ given iphone X is somehow snobbishly better than A+ given to others?

Who is grasping straw here?

 

[convergent]

That really sound like your grasping at straws.
In regards to display mates, when they reviewed those phones they were the best. Now display mate gave the title to the iPhone X.

Perhaps you can email displaymate and ask them to update their previous reviews?

I'm not grasping at anything. If you look at the summarized specs that another person on here thankfully collected from Displaymates reviews, all these devices they each gave "best" to are best in different areas. The reviews are also not dated, so a year from now how would you know which review they did first. And by then they will have called several more devices "best".

I don't really care what they do with their site... its a bit of a disorganized mess in my opinion. I already made a purchase of the Note 8 and love it, so if the X is better that's great for people buying an X. The point of these discussion threads is to help people make decisions. The only reason I brought this up is that people are reacting to this label of best on the X, and if you peel back the clickbait headline, it is very misleading to label any of the devices they called best as "best". The X, 8, 8+, S8, S8+, Note 8 all have great displays. If removed from the devices and put into a blind test, I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference.

 

[FFR]

Well, X , S8 and note 8 all got A+ rating from display mate. Are your saying A+ given iphone X is somehow snobbishly better than A+ given to others?

Who is grasping straw here?

Yes but at different points in time.

“What makes the iPhone X the Best Smartphone Display is....” -displaymate.

Maybe displaymate does, that’s why the labeled the iPhone X display as the best or maybe iPhone X oled panel is different.

“It is the most color accurate display that we have ever measured. It is Visually Indistinguishable From Perfect, and is very likely considerably better than any mobile display, monitor, TV or UHD TV that you have.” -displaymate

They don’t just compare it to the note 8 ؛)

You can email or tweet displaymate for clarification.

 

[840quadra]

Haven't tried it...."But there's an app for that!"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamemalt.fingerprintgestures

Check this out!

Pixel 2 ships with that option within settings. I can only swipe up and down, but it’s all I really need to access the notifications quickly. Works well.

 

[mib1800]

Yes but at different points in time.

“What makes the iPhone X the Best Smartphone Display is....” -displaymate.

Maybe displaymate does, that’s why the labeled the iPhone X display as the best or maybe iPhone X oled panel is different.

“It is the most color accurate display that we have ever measured. It is Visually Indistinguishable From Perfect, and is very likely considerably better than any mobile display, monitor, TV or UHD TV that you have.” -displaymate

They don’t just compare it to the note 8 ؛)

You can email or tweet displaymate for clarification.

Maybe you want to read the S8 or note 8 articles and see what displaymate said.

 

[FFR]

Maybe you want to read the S8 or note 8 articles and see what displaymate said.

Where the articles of the s8 or not 8 written before or after the iPhone X review?

 

[mib1800]

Where the articles of the s8 or not 8 written before or after the iPhone X review?

Were there major modifications to our understandings and techniques involved in measuring screen characteristics and performance (colour accuracy, viewing angle etc) since s8?

There isn't. So what was said about the S8 performance measurements still applies now.

 

[Technarchy]

I’m not sure why the squabbles.

I have a S8+ and X. Both are excellent displays. No one is “losing”. They are however different, but that doesn’t mean one is absolutely better than another.

Hell, between both I actually prefer the 16:9 1080P iPhone 8+ because the aspect ratio never gets in the way of the experience since everything is optimized for that format.

 

[Regime2008]

T

Pixel 2 ships with that option within settings. I can only swipe up and down, but it’s all I really need to access the notifications quickly. Works well.

This app will let you swipe down ONE time and see your "control center" instead of using 2 swipes.