In this case, if the problem appear and disappear, may be a software issueThat is only a bandaid fix and the problem will soon return
In this case, if the problem appear and disappear, may be a software issueThat is only a bandaid fix and the problem will soon return
I think it's too soon to write these phones off. Most of the other issues will be fixable, imo, the only one that really concerns me is the antenna. Even then it's too soon to say it can't or won't be fixed.
I'm not optimistic about the antenna issue but I think it's worth waiting for an official statement before passing final judgment.
What amazes me is that with all the beta testers and field engineers that actually used the iPhone xs and xs Max nobody found these issues. Is Apples new thing let the public find out for themselves when its finally released
NOT GOOD!
Apple may or may not ever even acknowledge there is a problem. It isn’t so much about writing off these phones as much as it is protecting ones investment. You may not mind getting stuck with a phone that is inferior and at best all they can do is tweak it, but some of us would rather return them and wait on the sidelines with our money in our pockets while they figure it out. Apple has a long history of not handling situations like this very well.
This is very much where I am. I went through the same with my 6 Plus and although a software update did help a bit, the phone was still a dog. I couldn’t wait for the next release the 6S Plus.Apple may or may not ever even acknowledge there is a problem. It isn’t so much about writing off these phones as much as it is protecting ones investment. You may not mind getting stuck with a phone that is inferior and at best all they can do is tweak it, but some of us would rather return them and wait on the sidelines with our money in our pockets while they figure it out. Apple has a long history of not handling situations like this very well.
Hooefully its a software update that’s necessary and not the fact that they’re using Intel modems which can’t compete with Qualcomm
It is best to report problems to Apple, in my opinion. Sprint does nothing but teach their employees how to apologize for everything and make promises that aren't kept. Whatever it takes to get the customer off the phone.I have been tracking this for a week now. I am going to be returning this phone Monday if I don’t get any resolution from Sprint by then. My case has been escalated to a “Tier III” and I have yet to hear of any resolution. Any other trouble shooting that has been done for me even at the executive level that has apparently worked for other customers, has not helped with my situation.
I unfortunately think it’s this case of the modems just being worse. Today I was in the apple store and over heard a girl telling about her xs dropping calls when her x and other iPhones wouldn’t. I read someone’s write that the Intel have a harder time hanging on the lower signal where the Qualcomm would and that sounds like what could be that girls problem her being used to the performance of Qualcomm modems.
It’s a mix! Weak antenna and the modem that is bad at reconnecting and holding signal in weak signal areas. It’s like the worst of two worlds. Had Apple equipped these phones with Qualcomm, it would’ve mitigated the antenna design a bit.I donn't think so. We here in Europe - other than you in the US - had to deal with Intel-only modems since the iPhone 7. The Qualcomm modems never were sold in Europe due to other frequencies.
My sister has an iPhone 7 (since release) and I own an iPhone 8 Plus - of course BOTH equipped with Intel modems. Both are running with the same carrier (O2 Telefonica) as my iPhone XS. Neither the 7 nor the 8+ are experiencing dropped calls and frequently switching to EDGE - the XS however does that continiously.
Yesterday I returned the XS and switched back to my 8+. I'm just glad I didn't sell it already like I have done the years before...
It has to be a problem with that sepcific Intel modem model they are using in the XS/XSMax or something with the antenna design. Third option (witch I hope for) is, that it is simply a software or firmware issue that can be sorted out by an update of iOS and the modem firmware.
If it's hardware they will have to submit a new FCC report and we will all know when a fix is out so it want be silent at all .Seems like a hardware issue. Apple will silently fix the hardware for the future phones yet to be made. For the ones already made and people already have, they’ll issue a software update to “help”, but it won’t 100% mitigate the issue unless you have the hardware upgrade.
Not defending Apple, but I highly doubt it. iPhone is more than half of all the profits that Apple make.Oh believe me, they found these issues while testing. The engineers likely complained how bad the new antennas are, and the higher ups ignored them. Right now the hardware engineers are saying "We told you so".
I think he means future models not updated hardware for current ones.If it's hardware they will have to submit a new FCC report and we will all know when a fix is out so it want be silent at all .
Work for them, do you? Didn’t think so.I'm sure they did find it, but Apple "culture" today - nobody reports any problems.
Fear rules.
Interesting, because sometimes the XS does better than the 6S. Suggests it’s software rather than hardware, surely (assuming nothing else changed between tests?).The iPhone Xs is almost always getting 50% less than my iPhone 6s. Disappointing
Is it even possible that a firmware update could fix this though?Agreed, the charging issue I am sure will get fixed with a software update I am afraid the signal issue isn't because its hardware and it's not "broken" it just sucks in comparison older iPhones.
if you are not in a rough coverage area or use primarily 2.4 you won;'t notice.So I don‘t want to read 55 pages, is there a simple way to test/measure if my XS is affected too? Or do I have to use my old iphone 7 side by side with the same sim card and test it with speedtest.net?
Can I just test this with wifi and dont changing sim cards?
So with your statement, when would you estimate the future phones with the fixed hardware to come out? In a month? Six months? I’m one that returned my Max and impatiently sitting on the side line waiting to jump back in when both the connectivity and charging issues are resolved.Seems like a hardware issue. Apple will silently fix the hardware for the future phones yet to be made. For the ones already made and people already have, they’ll issue a software update to “help”, but it won’t 100% mitigate the issue unless you have the hardware upgrade.
To really be sure test both WiFi and Cellular service with side by side phones. That’s what I did (swapping the Sim) and could clearly see the difference with cellular connectivity. I had no issues with WiFi on my Max.So I don‘t want to read 55 pages, is there a simple way to test/measure if my XS is affected too? Or do I have to use my old iphone 7 side by side with the same sim card and test it with speedtest.net?
Can I just test this with wifi and dont changing sim cards?
It bothers you? Really?!It bothers me when people say that. What leads you believe they are actively investigating it? I went to a carrier store and the employee told me "yes there is an issue and Apple knows about it, they are pushing an update soon". I believe Apple is looking into some customers phones but I don't believe they have acknowledged any issue with signal whatsoever.
There are many ways to do it without causing a huge public outcry. They’ve done it before: the iPhone 4 revision released for Verizon, its antenna design was kept and reused in the iPhone 4S as well.If it's hardware they will have to submit a new FCC report and we will all know when a fix is out so it want be silent at all .