And those who no longer buy one because it no longer meets their needs? Are the no longer real Mac Pro users?
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Is the new Mac Pro a failure?
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It sounds like the OPs issues are specific to that machine as others have posted it operates fine under the described circumstances. It also seems unreasonable to assume there's a platform problem as the OPs issues don't appear to be wide spread.
Someone that isn't just a tech geek looking for a gaming/DIY machine pretending to be a pro ....
It was a jewel of engineering ... It was just poorly priced, but if you call it a failure, well, you aren't an Apple user.But Apple has been down this road before...
While some absolutely loved this path, the majority of the market didn't bite.
But yes, there were some die-hards for whom the death of that little cube crushed.
You should put that in your signature
it is designed to be that way. Most of the pro I know NEVER used any slot after have bought the computer.
Last time I checked , the MP 6,1 HAS internal storage, BTO up to 1 Tb SSD.
It is designed to have a single CPU with 12 cores.
Frankly I don't know anyone who actually need more...
Yes, it could exist, but I just think it's not in the target market of the Mac Pro.
exactly.
The Mac Pro 6,1 has a different philosophy behind ... if you need a box where put whatever you want, that's not the machine for you. Deal with it and move on.
It's not about whether the nMP is the machine for you. It's about the fact Apple no longer offers a machine "for you". This seems to be a concept that escapes you.
Apple can't please everybody.
There are people happier with a MP 6,1 than with a bulky box like the MP 5,1 (I know personally).
You are not one of them, fine.
If they are targeting the wrong user base, they will redesign the Mac Pro in the next iteration, otherwise they are happy about the sales numbers achieved.
No, they can't. But they ended up pleasing even fewer people with the nMP. As for the people who are happier I have a difficult time believing that...at least those who are pros. Maybe those who want a piece of fashion but the cMP offered almost everything the nMP offers save for size.
That's great that YOU don't think so. And I agree. But if a news outlet picks up on this thread. And then more news outlets pick up on it. and It grows to something more, it might. Nothing will happen if you don't try. Your nay saying.
The last thing you say is sheer unsubstantiated opinion on your part that they don't post here. Clearly some portion does. That you seem to have an agenda in saying they are all so busy is your biased view only, with no decent theory, much less scientifically valid evidence to back it up.
Do you bet? Really? Wow. We should really weigh that for what it's worth. Less than nothing. It's just your baseless unscientific opinion. One that is insulting to the users here. You 'just know' sage that you are.
You make me LOL.
You're right, your but ifs are so scientific, as is your agenda.
P.S. Unless you think Apple only sold 200 and something Mac Pros then they don't post here.
I've never seen anyone troll their own thread as much as you do.
Good job though.
Ah...the troll response. Thanks for acknowledging you don't have anything of substance.
So you made a thread, as a poll but hope that some news outlet is going to pick up on it?
Pick up on what, exactly? Please enlighten me.
And this reply was so incredibly substantial?
Just get a Dell. (there's some substance for you).
Believe it or not it has more substance than your troll response. IMO the troll claim is the most idiotic of posts. If you feel someone is trolling then stop responding to them.
DO you actually know the MP 6,1 sales are lower than MP 5,1 ?
Or are you judging the MP market using a little poll on a geek's forum ?
I don't know MP 6,1 numbers, and you neither ....
You think it's only "fashion", others may think differently.
I'm quite sure you aren't one ...
I'm not insulting anyone, and I can see a very few MP users here.
Yet you responded directly to it, what is that then, troll inception?
It looks like a lot of people are really sad that Apple changed a computer design two years ago.
If you're all this upset after two years I think it's time to figure out how you will move on.
Unless of course CNN sees this thread and maybe Taylor Swift writes a letter about it, then maybe, just maybe it'll change.
I don't recall an outcry about the cMP...are you aware of any? The concerns I hear raised about the nMP are legitimate. There was zero reason for Apple to reduce the size of the MP at the expense of functionality. I think my argument is much more plausible than yours.
I don't recall saying you were trolling...perhaps I missed it...would you be so kind as to point it out?
I actually recall people outcry about EVERYTHING Apple made. Literally.
Apple employs very talented engineers and market analysts , so they surely had reasons to redesign the Mac Pro.
I don't know if they were wrong or right.
On a commercial point of view, only sales numbers could answer the question.
I suspect the sales numbers are lower for the nMP than the cMP...at least with those who want to get work done and not have a pretty computer sitting on their desk. As for those outcry about anything Apple we call them PC users.
The reality is the cMP appealed to a larger number of people due to it's ability to do more. The cMP, had it been updated with the same level of technology as the nMP, could have done everything the nMP could do. The same cannot be said about the nMP.
More pertinently. How many of the 233 users have ever actually bought a new MP? I qualify as I bought two 2008 Mac Pro 3,1s from Apple when my wife & I started doing professional video & photography. They have been upgraded with SSDs, 32GB 667MHz RAM (just upgraded one to 56GB) & GTX570s. We no longer do video professionally but they paid for themselves many times over & they are still going strong for what we want to do with them now so sadly I am not in the market for a new Mac Pro. If I would want to buy a new one with warranty from Apple rather than an upgraded used one with no warranty from a stranger on eBay.
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your suspects are baseless, since the ONLY official statement about the MP 6,1 was from december 2013 when Apple said "the demands exceed expectations".
We don't know how many they sold since then.
Agree. If you are looking for a professional machine you want a proper warranty (and AppleCare is a must).
In poking around a while back, I stumbled upon these guys...
http://www.macs4u.com/mac-pro-2-93-ghz-12-core-westmere-desktop-w-amd-radeon-hd5870/
I had no idea they were out there. Kind of strange to buy 6+ yr old systems with config options and warranties? But I did find it odd that they had no GPU options.
And yet it's outrageous to spend that much for a somewhat outdated systems that's several years old. But the option is there, apparently with a warranty.
http://www.macs4u.com/mac-pro-2-93-ghz-12-core-westmere-desktop-w-amd-radeon-hd5870/
I had no idea they were out there. Kind of strange to buy 6+ yr old systems with config options and warranties? But I did find it odd that they had no GPU options.
And yet it's outrageous to spend that much for a somewhat outdated systems that's several years old. But the option is there, apparently with a warranty.
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