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Is the new Mac Pro a failure?
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What is a GPU that has been modified to be on a smaller card, with no heatsink, and no display outputs? IYou also need to include lower clocks and a new name to jazz up the cheering masses? Well, typically this would be a mobile GPU on an MXM card. Which have more in common with nMP Dx00s than do real GPU for PCIE slots.
So...and this is a big "What if?'...What if Apple or a 3rd party offered an adapter kit to allow standard MXM cards to be mounted in nMP? Obviously this would be tricky, but I'm pretty sure it could be done. Nvidia makes a fully specced GTX980 in MXM form. There are also Quadros of various sorts like this. Of course, since the Apple system EFI curtrently holds the EFI and BIOS for the GPUs, someone would have to write some new EFI BIOS's to work on nMP, but I may know someone who could do that.
Hey, do I get any points for calling this a few days before they announced this thing?
Apple is using "mobile" GPUs, just custom ones.
MSI is using better ones.
You should do more research before posting such strong words.
This is yet another factual error, they are the very 980 MXM cards i suggested for nMP a few days back.
Finally there is a computer that will meet all of my "glowing, badass knight’s helmet" case requirements.
And how is that different from one that meets your "hide the computer as a trash can" requirements?
That vortex looks awesome!
Edit: and the guy says that it only runs Windows as if it is a bad thing.
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And how is that different from one that meets your "hide the computer as a trash can" requirements?
None. You must be mistaking me for someone that likes the nMP!
But even though I don't like the nMP, I'd still say that a machined aluminum tube is a much nicer style than a glowing plastic helmet.
If you want to sell to teenage boys and girls, you design for that market.
I wouldn't be surprised if focus groups of teens said:
- dark cylinder - Boring!
- glowing helmet - Cool!
For designers who are exploring new shapes using generative algorithms, Grasshopper® is a graphical algorithm editor tightly integrated with Rhino’s 3-D modeling tools.
I assure you that they aren't selling what's probably a 3,000 $ machine to teenage boys.
Grown men with the mental faculties of a teenage boy, maybe.
I asked because you keep quoting yourself talking about it on here.
Don't you think that maybe it would be better to start a new topic for it and not derail the conversation about the hardware?
Anyways back on topic. The MSI Vortex machine seems interesting. Maybe not visually but in terms of hardware.
it's to do with the .NET subtopic that happened a while back in this thread.
in regards to mac pro, it means the potential mac pro user base just grew by a hundred thousand or so people.
I know what .net is. It pays the bills.
I wasn't trying to troll you. I have been working crunch time this week so I haven't been paying as much attention to the topic. I saw some talk on xeons and then a tiny little gaming power house and then grasshopper out from left field. I was simply asking because your posts don't provide much context until someone asks.
I wasn't trying to troll you. I have been working crunch time this week so I haven't been paying as much attention to the topic. I saw some talk on xeons and then a tiny little gaming power house and then grasshopper out from left field. I was simply asking because your posts don't provide much context until someone asks.
Apples cards are based on Pitcairn, Tahiti LE & Tahiti XT all desktop GPU's. How could they in any way be associated with mobile GPU's?
How ironic, the PC version of the Mac Pro is now greater than sliced bread. I thought I seen everything. Only on MacRumors I suppose.
This is my problem with tech and machines marketed to gamers - everything has to be flashy with unnecessary curves and tacky design elements that add nothing to overall design and in fact make it look worse.
That's why for my new gaming PC build I went with the Corsair Air 540 - Simple, elegant, and practical design. Keeps the machine below 60C and looks good doing it with out a bunch unnecessary design add-ons and tacky LEDs.
Any who - if MSI is making a serious machine on this technology, I'd definitely call the Mac pro a success. It has to make Apple's team laugh seeing rMB and Mac Pro clones and spin offs this year.
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i meant that grasshopper on mac increased the potential user base.. not .NET (but it's .net that made it possible in certain regards so in that case, yeah, microsoft going open source with .NET did potentially grow the OS X user base)
A $3000 machine marketed to teens? Really?
And yea, it's pretty easy to make a machine with dual 980s for $3000 when they aren't using multi-thousand-dollar professional grade components.
They simply follow the money. Like everything in business.
Dual gtx 980 is a very affordable beasts setup. Used by a lot of professionals. Just like a lot use dual 970, dual 980ti and (dual) titans.
The pc version isn't the only one available... People have choice.
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Have you ever heard of Alienware and Area51 computers... Quite expensive and loved by the teens.
1. And how well they are designed, especially longevity for price... the 2009 iMac I sold to help pay for a Mac Pro tower had the buyer thanking me for purchasing an extended warranty transferred over since the screen developed problems that year model was (unbeknownst to me at the time) famous for. I only knew that heat reduces electronic product lifespan and needed the Pro's power. The 2010 model was awesome but the 2013 refresh turns it into a nearly airtight glossy trash can that gets 30 degrees C hotter under load compared to the 2010 model, which is not something professional wants unless they print their own money or make enough to replace every time a box fails, but it's simpler than that: Making them to malfunction faster due to poor heat dissipation reeks of planned obsolescence and is environmentally wasteful too... don't say Macs are designed to run hot because that's okay when every stinking Intel CPU forum has everyone saying heat is bad. One needn't have an engineering degree to understand the basics of technology and even mere physics... or life experience, as some of them freely attest to as well...
2. I can't believe that a company won't listen to paying customers' feedback. A good company listens to customer feedback and certainly never blames them, whether due to accidental conditions or especially if a CEO knows of a defect that (s)he chooses to let out to the market for customers to buy. Granted, customer response can be nice or rude but considering they are the ones that spend the money in the first place that ultimately will keep the company in business, is this a truly unreal expectation for customers to feel upset? Plutocrats and oligarchies would probably disagree, I suppose...
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After decades of "Apple copied Xerox", "10 Features Apple Copied From Android", "Apple copied Samsung", "Samsung Copied Apple", "Microsoft copied Apple", "Apple Copied Microsoft", etc, I thought everyone figured out from all the tech media news that they all copy and steal from one another. At least Gates didn't grin to a camera lens in saying how he stole.
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