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Steve Jobs would never let the notch fall into our hands. There’s just no way..

Notch aside, Did you know Steve Jobs personally? Do you understand how unpredictable he was? There is no way you could definitely say what Steve Jobs would or would not do if he were still involved in the company today. No one can. And I think those who make these frivolous assertions about Steve Jobs shows a lack of respect for you trying to speak for him when you don’t understand his mindset.
 
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Yeah it's really quite odd to say the least.. If I don't like something I just don't buy it. If I went to every online forum and complained about something I didn't own or buy then I'd not have any time for life in general. LOL

You are right, however I think a lot are here to discuss Apple products in general as many of us have been buying them for years. Most of the people "critiquing" the the X are not just random haters but in general are enthusiasts of the brand as a whole.
 
Why would anyone need to own something before deciding they don’t want it? If you don’t like the design or certain functions why on earth would you buy it?
Other than aesthetics, how can you know you don't like a certain function if you don't try to use it?

I decided not to buy the X before it even came out based on the form and gen 1 functions
Gen1 functions? These same functions are not present in the 8?
 
You are right, however I think a lot are here to discuss Apple products in general as many of us have been buying them for years. Most of the people "critiquing" the the X are not just random haters but in general are enthusiasts of the brand as a whole.

Expressing an opinion is one thing but repeatedly posting the same over and over again and in every thread in existence is odd. Every X thread gets derailed with the same nonsense from non owners. As I've said before, it appears as though most actual owners are happy with it..

I really wish some here would just add a statement in their signature expressing how much they hate the X and leave the X topics be. But hey, it's the internet and we all know that's not going to happen..

The topic of this thread is: Is the notch going to stay

I don't see where notch hates comes into the discussion.. Can we not discuss the topic without all the other garbage?
 
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Expressing an opinion is one thing but repeatedly posting the same over and over again and in every thread in existence is odd. Every X thread gets derailed with the same nonsense from non owners. As I've said before, it appears as though most actual owners are happy with it..

I really wish some here would just add a statement in their signature expressing how much they hate the X and leave the X topics be. But hey, it's the internet and we all know that's not going to happen..

The topic of this thread is: Is the notch going to stay

I don't see where notch hates comes into the discussion.. Can we not discuss the topic without all the other garbage?

OK,

I do think the notch will be around for the next gen X at least, after that I think Apple will find a way to remove it or modify the design.

There you go, no hate ;-)
 
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OK,

I do think the notch will be around for the next gen X at least, after that I think Apple will find a way to remove it or modify the design.

There you go, no hate ;-)

I think it's here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it will shrink over time and since Apple is now forcing new apps to conform to the X's notch that it will become less and less an issue for some..
 
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On the bright side, the negativity will start to die down as the haters move on to Android. The notch is all Apple will be doing in short order so I'd assume, based on reading these threads and posts, that many will never buy another iPhone going forward. Look for them on Samsung forums complaining about bloatware, battery life ect in the coming months.. LOL

So Apple losing customer base is a good thing? :rolleyes:. Why people are so drawn to the irrational has always puzzled me.
 
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So Apple losing customer base is a good thing? :rolleyes:. Why people are so drawn to the irrational has always puzzled me.

Edit: Added to ignore list (I forgot to do it last time) so removed my initial response. Why you constantly feel the need to take what others say out of context and derail into off-topic remarks is puzzling though. To each their own I suppose.
 
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Just to stop the notch saga, i believe that the none ratio of 16:9 is a big big problem to the future of the iPhone X, the only way to solve it is going back to 16:9 on all future iPhones and eliminate the current X.
 
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Edit: Added to ignore list (I forgot to do it last time) so removed my initial response. Why you constantly feel the need to take what others say out of context and derail into off-topic remarks is puzzling though. To each their own I suppose.

Accept you didn't state what exactly it was that I stated out of context, an instead use projection as a way to deflect when you can't use reasoning to rationalize your irrational comments.
 
The comment bout non owners being the ones that don’t like it. Well duh.

We don’t dislike it because we are not owners. We don’t own it, because we don’t like it. Cause and effect.

It’s ugly, but I could get past that, as I did with the Essential, if the screen was not so small and an odd aspect ratio...

Apple can talk about how their Face ID is better, but the reality is that faceid has been out for years. It didn’t take off, not because it didn’t work, but because a lot of people don’t like it. It’s not as good as Touch ID in several situations.

Apple cut back on production for a reason. People haven’t been taking to it as much as predicted.

It’s not based on hate. Some just don’t like the notch and wonky screen.
 
No, I wouldn't.

As the first universally accepted status symbol in the smartphone universe, the iPhone X needed something to visually set it apart from the riff-raff out there. If it went edge-to-edge, it would look like all those cheap Android phones that unwashed gamer high school students are seen with. If it had the home button, forehead, and chin, it would look like all those old and cheap used iPhones bought off of Craigslist for $49 that day laborers are seen with.

We don't care if it is a notch, a vertical camera, or a pink pierced nipple ring, the iPhone X needed something visually different and noticeable to passers-by in order to justify it's $1,200 price. Without the notch we're using a ho-hum iPhone that no one would notice and could be as old as 2012. With the notch, we're celebrities, I'm Tom Cruise, people lean over my shoulder on a train to take a look, people strike up idle conversation with me at the airport gate.

Once you get past the first month and the afterglow of the new technology, the X becomes just-a-phone. But the notch is what keeps it spicy, it's what makes the X keep giving its owners exciting vibes each week. The attention it draws is fantastic, like having a Ferrari in your pocket.

This is hog wash. It's a cut out of the screen. And to prove it is hogwash, as soon as Apple can find a way to house the sensors without the notch, the notch will be gone quicker than you can say "Apple". So don't get too attached to the notch, it will be gone eventually. Maybe not next year or the year after, but eventually. Apple are probably researching and developing for no notch even as I type this. Goes to show what a magnificent feature you seem to think it is.

The apple logo is what distguishes it as an iphone, not some flaw that some are trying to convice themselves it's not. What did Apple use to distinguish the iphone as an iphone for the 9 years prior? And how did you cope not being able to tell the world you had an iphone for all those years? Unbelievable.

Please spare me any more hogwash. Thanks.
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I know I wouldn't; I like the notch too much.

Refer to my comment above. How did you cope also?
 
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This is hog wash. It's a cut out of the screen.
No, no its not. For all intents and purposes it is a short bezel. It is exactly where a full bezel would be, but apple decided to shorten the bezel, and use the display to the right and left for specific icons. If we had a full bezel those same icons would be located below the bezel as they are on the 8. We actually gain more display space with the half bezel. I do hate the term 'notch'.

And to prove it is hogwash, as soon as Apple can find a way to house the sensors without the notch, the notch will be gone quicker than you can say "Apple".
So you believe it is not apples intention to advance technology?
 
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The apple logo is what distguishes it as an iphone, not some flaw that some are trying to convice themselves it's not. What did Apple use to distinguish the iphone as an iphone for the 9 years prior? And how did you cope not being able to tell the world you had an iphone for all those years?
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Refer to my comment above. How did you cope also?

I believe the home button is what apple thought distguished it as an iPhone before the notch on the front of the devices
 
Let me check my crystal ball and look into the future. I'll get right back to you guys with the answer!
 
It’s not the notch by itself. It’s the notch along with a small and narrow weird aspect screen that a lot of people don’t like.

Apple has done form over function many times over the years.
 
The notch is ridiculous and horrid and I’m glad there are people out there that get that.

Steve would not have allowed it.

Then Steve would not have had 3D depth sensing cameras. Because it’s physically impossible at this point and for the foreseeable future to have that camera system without a notch.

I feel like honestly some of you don’t do your research to why the notch is even there.

Also Steve is dead and I don’t think he likes being pulled out of your backpocket as a secret weapon to make an attempt to get your point across. Let that man rest in piece.
 
I feel like honestly some of you don’t do your research to why the notch is even there.

That is definitely part of the problem.. Another part is that they've never used the X and throw online tantrums over it based on an internet image or a few minutes of in store play time.

I was skeptical about the X and waffled back and forth. I didn't know if faceID would be good, I was not 100% sold on the notch and didn't think I'd like gestures.. I took the leap and figured that worse case I'd be out the restocking fee at AT&T. To me it was worth the measly $45 to try it out and see.

Having used the X for an extended period of time now I can easily say I am very happy with it. Gestures are intuitive and work great. faceID works awesome be it with my glasses on or off, my contact lenses in or out and with my sunglasses on or off. It just works for me 95% of the time.

As for the notch? It does not bother me one bit! All the apps I use are optimized / updated for it and I hardly ever even notice it's there anymore. When I do notice it I feel it gives the X a unique look.
 
I've said it many times before and it's what I like about the notch: it is eldritch, it enchants me, it exudes the class of a flagship device and I'd rather it was there.
 
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I don’t think you really need to worry about the notch unless you really don’t like it and are contemplating buying an iPhone X. For me it’s not a particularly attractive aesthetic but as others have said it’s there because of what it houses. My current iPhone doesn’t have a notch and it’s looking doubtful my next one will either so i’ll see if the design has grown on me in 2 1/2 years time. If an iPhone is released this year at s cheaper price and has a notch, it wouldn’t put me off.
 
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