iPad Pro Is yellow smearing when scrolling normal??

[Pirographe]

Bonjour

J’ai aussi ce problème sur mon iPad 11 M2. C’est immonde. Je l’ai reçu en 15.7 et je n’ai rien remarqué. Puis update en 16.1 et là horrible, le texte devient flou et tire sur le vert en défilant sans True Tone ni night schift.
Avez-vous essayé une beta 16.2 ?

 

[papbot]

Bonjour

J’ai aussi ce problème sur mon iPad 11 M2. C’est immonde. Je l’ai reçu en 15.7 et je n’ai rien remarqué. Puis update en 16.1 et là horrible, le texte devient flou et tire sur le vert en défilant sans True Tone ni night schift.
Avez-vous essayé une beta 16.2 ?

Oui! It does not fix it.

 

[virile]

this is my first ipad device ever so i guess this is not normal then? bought an m2 ipad pro 12.9. when i scroll a white site with black text there is yellow tint around the text:

 

[papbot]

this is my first ipad device ever so i guess this is not normal then? bought an m2 ipad pro 12.9. when i scroll a white site with black text there is yellow tint around the text:

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If you have night shift on it will be noticeable in Safari as well as apps. If you have both night shift and dark mode on it is especially noticeable.

 

[papbot]

I did find a Canadian site that’s picked up on the thread here so there is some attention being paid to this other than just by posters here.

https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ipad/m2-ipad-pro-bug-yellow-smearing-while-scrolling-for-some-users/

 

[Foghorn leghorn]

I did receive my M2 “Express Replacement” from Apple this morning. I having been testing it for the last couple of hours and this replacement does not do the ”color shift/blur while scrolling” at all. Looks as good as my old M1 now. I think there is a small batch of screens that are defective. Other than on this forum there not much elsewhere about this.

 

[Pirographe]

I did receive my M2 “Express Replacement” from Apple this morning. I having been testing it for the last couple of hours and this replacement does not do the ”color shift/blur while scrolling” at all. Looks as good as my old M1 now. I think there is a small batch of screens that are defective. Other than on this forum there not much elsewhere about this.

iOS 16.1 ?

 

[Mockenrue]

I think there is a small batch of screens that are defective.

Even if panel variation is one factor, the issue is still tied to iPadOS 16.1. Several of us had these scenarios on a 12.9" M1 iPad pro:

• All versions up to and including 15.7: no scrolling issues for the past year
• With 16.1 in dark mode with true tone or night shift ON: dimming, blurring, yellow/orange tint
• With 16.1 in dark mode with true tone and night shift OFF: dimming, blurring
• After rollback to 15.7: no scrolling issues

 

[papbot]

Even if panel variation is one factor, the issue is still tied to iPadOS 16.1. Several of us had these scenarios on a 12.9" M1 iPad pro:

• All versions up to and including 15.7: no scrolling issues for the past year
• With 16.1 in dark mode with true tone or night shift ON: dimming, blurring, yellow/orange tint
• With 16.1 in dark mode with true tone and night shift OFF: dimming, blurring
• After rollback to 15.7: no scrolling issues

It may well be an issue with some devices and not others, such bugs frequently are. But first, the M2s are quite new and there won’t be as many out there. And if some don’t use night shift or dark mode they may never notice any issue at all. On my M2 I’ve made a few changes that have really reduced how obvious this is. If I weren’t hyper aware and obsessively looking for it I might not notice myself.

If it should turn out to be some type of screen defect then I’ll make an effort to get it replaced. However reading posts from others who have done this and from those who checked the iPads at Apple stores, replacements could very well be a crapshoot and not worth the effort for now. And as you mentioned, even though I can’t be certain, I believe I saw this on my M1 before trading it, which would essentially be proof of a software bug. But even such a bug won’t necessarily affect every device out there.

 

[iphoneuserinyyz]

I posted a video a couple of days ago comparing the M1 11" side by side with the M2 11". I decided to return the M2 iPad, but try my luck with another one. I shot a few more side by side comparisons with the M1, using the new M2 I received today. For each video below, the M1 is on the left, the M2 on the right, and each iPad is set to maximum brightness.

Here is the M1 (iPadOS 16.1) vs M2 (iPadOS 16.0, which is the version that it came with). Both with Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on:

Next video is the M1 vs M2 (now updated to 16.1). Both with Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on:

Next video is M1 vs M2. This time with M1 having Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on, and M2 having Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone off:

Finally, M1 with Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on, and M2 with Dark Mode on, Night Shift off, True Tone on:

My take: The colour shift is worse in 16.1 than in 16.0 (suggesting a possible software cause), and is mitigated somewhat by turning off either True Tone or Night Shift. I am personally torn, because comparing the two devices side by side (in real life, not on these videos), the screen for the M1 is better to my eyes (not just because of the yellowing/dimming, but in terms of the overall colour/appearance). But I would like to future proof as much as I can with this purchase. Since the return period for both devices is until January, I guess I have some time to think about it...

 

[papbot]

I posted a video a couple of days ago comparing the M1 11" side by side with the M2 11". I decided to return the M2 iPad, but try my luck with another one. I shot a few more side by side comparisons with the M1, using the new M2 I received today. For each video below, the M1 is on the left, the M2 on the right, and each iPad is set to maximum brightness.

Here is the M1 (iPadOS 16.1) vs M2 (iPadOS 16.0, which is the version that it came with). Both with Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on:
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Next video is the M1 vs M2 (now updated to 16.1). Both with Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on:
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Next video is M1 vs M2. This time with M1 having Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on, and M2 having Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone off:
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Finally, M1 with Dark Mode on, Night Shift on, True Tone on, and M2 with Dark Mode on, Night Shift off, True Tone on:
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My take: The colour shift is worse in 16.1 than in 16.0 (suggesting a possible software cause), and is mitigated somewhat by turning off either True Tone or Night Shift. I am personally torn, because comparing the two devices side by side (in real life, not on these videos), the screen for the M1 is better to my eyes (not just because of the yellowing/dimming, but in terms of the overall colour/appearance). But I would like to future proof as much as I can with this purchase. Since the return period for both devices is until January, I guess I have some time to think about it...

The one thing I get is that the problem is clearly evident on the M1. The video is probably misleading me but at times it even seems worse on the M1. Night shift significantly worsens the effect which matches my experience. I have played around a little with true tone but really didn’t see much difference with it on or off, it might be more obvious to someone else. I have night shift on during the day when dark mode is off. In some apps and on some sites that big white screen can be uncomfortably glaring to me. If I turn night shift off the issue is barely, if at all, noticeable.

What brought this to my attention initially was, I’m pretty certain on my M1, on Macrumors because I was using the dark setting for the site and of course I had night shift on. It looked really bad and the shift in color or tone of the text was significant. That still occurs on sites like Macrumors that have a native dark setting. So I’ve reverted to using the Noir app that has a gray background option that lessens the effect quite significantly. Really hoping this can be fixed in an update.

 

[iphoneuserinyyz]

The one thing I get is that the problem is clearly evident on the M1. The video is probably misleading me but at times it even seems worse on the M1. Night shift significantly worsens the effect which matches my experience. I have played around a little with true tone but really didn’t see much difference with it on or off, it might be more obvious to someone else. I have night shift on during the day when dark mode is off. In some apps and on some sites that big white screen can be uncomfortably glaring to me. If I turn night shift off the issue is barely, if at all, noticeable.

What brought this to my attention initially was, I’m pretty certain on my M1, on Macrumors because I was using the dark setting for the site and of course I had night shift on. It looked really bad and the shift in color or tone of the text was significant. That still occurs on sites like Macrumors that have a native dark setting. So I’ve reverted to using the Noir app that has a gray background option that lessens the effect quite significantly. Really hoping this can be fixed in an update.

Interesting - in person, the M1 does not show discolouration or shifting, only the M2. Must be an artefact of the video.

 

[hippopotamusglorypig]

It's just the response times. You can see the difference in this gif between a slow display and a fast one. You can see the same "yellow" effect described in this thread, which is made more visible in the test scenario of white text on a black background, similar to some of the circumstances described in this thread. Remember that Apple displays are typically significantly slower than even the VA type panel in the gif.

People remarking on the slow response times of iPad displays is not a new phenomenon.

 

[iphoneuserinyyz]

It's just the response times. You can see the difference in this gif between a slow display and a fast one. You can see the same "yellow" effect described in this thread, which is made more visible in the test scenario of white text on a black background, similar to some of the circumstances described in this thread. Remember that Apple displays are typically significantly slower than even the VA type panel in the gif.

People remarking on the slow response times of iPad displays is not a new phenomenon.

Very helpful illustration. But why is it so much less noticeable on the M1?

 

[hippopotamusglorypig]

Very helpful illustration. But why is it so much less noticeable on the M1?

It's not certain that it does, given the limited information that we have. But a variety of factors can influence response times, including things like operating temperature.

I love looking at Apple displays, but I don't think it's properly understood how off-the-charts slow they are in this specific measurement.

 

[iphoneuserinyyz]

It's not certain that it does, given the limited information that we have. But a variety of factors can influence response times, including things like operating temperature.

I love looking at Apple displays, but I don't think it's properly understood how off-the-charts slow they are in this specific measurement.

So I guess it was just luck of the draw that I seemed to get a better screen on the M1 than in either one of my M2s? I should mention that we also have a recent iPad Air in the house, and it also does not exhibit this discolouration when scrolling.

 

[hippopotamusglorypig]

So I guess it was just luck of the draw that I seemed to get a better screen on the M1 than in either one of my M2s? I should mention that we also have a recent iPad Air in the house, and it also does not exhibit this discolouration when scrolling.

They're different panels, so the specs are likely different. But in the general sense, at 60hz, the display receives a new frame every 16ms vs 8ms for the 120hz display, which makes the slow response time (and the artifacts) more visible.

 

[iphoneuserinyyz]

So do you think this is something that would be fixable in a software update? Or would it be inherent to the particular panel that happens to be in the two M2 iPads I happen to have received?

 

[hippopotamusglorypig]

So do you think this is something that would be fixable in a software update? Or would it be inherent to the particular panel that happens to be in the two M2 iPads I happen to have received?

I honestly could not say. But there's simply no amount of software tweaking that can "fix" the effect of having a 45ms response time on a 120hz display. They're beautiful panels in many other respects, so it's just a matter of how much it bothers you personally.

 

[iphoneuserinyyz]

I honestly could not say. But there's simply no amount of software tweaking that can "fix" the effect of having a 45ms response time on a 120hz display. They're beautiful panels in many other respects, so it's just a matter of how much it bothers you personally.

That is helpful - it makes me think I should just stick with the known good M1, which has a display that is much better to my eye, since the M2 displays bother me a lot (I use the iPads a lot at night, so the discolouration in dark mode would be a constant irritant)

 

[JabroniCorleone]

Just returned my new purchased M1 Ipad Pro because I had an display issue right out of the box…. My money returned today and I wanted to purchase the M2 instead now - saw this thread and now Im not sure anymore…. What should I do? Is the yellow smearing problem wide spread? Has every M2 ipad this issue? Is it sofware problem? I mean ive red about m1 with the same problem after update….. I dont want to upset myself again with another defective unit and wait again 14 days to receive my money back ( ordered by amazon in germany )

 

[Denis1987]

It is just a software bug since it is happening only when Night shift and Dark mode are enabled together. I bought iPad in Vienna, Austria and have that problem too, but I just disabled Night shift till the update comes and everything is great.

 

[JabroniCorleone]

It is just a software bug since it is happening only when Night shift and Dark mode are enabled together. I bought iPad in Vienna, Austria and have that problem too, but I just disabled Night shift till the update comes and everything is great.

So what happens if Im used to have Nightmode on and nighshift and true tone off too?

 

[Denis1987]

Nothing happens. Everything works like it worked on my prevous 12Z iPad Pro. I am very satisifed with the responsivness, screen quality and battery life compared to the 4th gen iPad Pro 12.9.

 

[Frankfurt]

It is software. As we wait for a fix just disable Night Shift as proposed.